Meaning of 'download'

[Steve N.]

Some time Windows is more complicated but do you want to go
back to DOS? I understand that most Mac OS X programs just
create a file list, and not a series of embedded registry
entries. Don't know for sure, just something I saw, maybe
it was Linux. If I had the time and inclination, I'd have
machines with several OS just to keep myself busy. But
Windows does what I want and I know how to use it.

FYI, Mac OS X is actually linux with probably the best GUI linux has
ever seen. If Gnome and KDE were as stable as the MAc GUI is then linux
would actually have a better chance in the consumer market. Even in
Linux putting software onto the system is an "installation" proper and
is more than a file list; it makes necessary changes to file system
permissions, among other things.

I know what you mean about playing with several OSes, I'd do it more too
if I wasn't so burned out on computers by the time I got home from work.



I have managed to find time/energy to have three Win2K PCs and one
WinXP/Linux dual boot box up and running, though.

Steve

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| || The nice thing is that a simple description will bring
|| further expansion. Thank you for the expanded
definitions.
|| Many programs do not "install" in that they do not
require a
|| Windows registry tree entry, old DOS programs and some
newer
|| programs written to run directly, but they are not
|| "installed" but "loaded into memory" and run. Install
means
|| that a registry entry has been made and that uninstalling
|| requires more than just deleting the exe file.
||
||
|| message || |
|| | "Jim Macklin" <p51mustang[threeX12]@xxxhotmail.calm>
wrote
|| in message
|| | || || General accepted terms in USA.
|| |
|| || Download means to transfer and copy files or data from
an
|| || on-line site to your local drive.
|| |
|| | Actually, any form of network transfer qualifies as a
|| download, especially
|| | when the transfer is from a server to a workstation.
|| |
|| || Install means to "install" a program so that it will
run.
|| |
|| | Not necessarily; some programs can be downloaded (or
|| otherwise transferred)
|| | and executed without installation.
|| |
|| || Burn means to copy a file from the hard drive to a
CD-R
|| or
|| || other media.
|| |
|| | ...or other *optical* media.
|| |
|| || Copy means to select a file and make a copy in some
other
|| || location or media.
|| |
|| || Upload means to use a procedure to send a file to a
|| website.
|| || The opposite generally of download.
|| |
|| | Yes, but it also refers to a process that is the
opposite
|| of downloading as
|| | I described it above; sending files to a "website" is a
|| form of uploading,
|| | but there are others.
|| |
|| || Email is a method of sending data using mail servers
to
|| || addresses in domains, name@domain.
|| |
|| | E-mail is any sort of electronic transfer of messages;
it
|| can occur without
|| | mail servers.
|| |
|| || Attachment is a method for including files of any type
|| along
|| || with an email, it is different from uploading as it
uses
|| || different servers and encoding methods.
|| |
|| | E-mail messages, and their attachments, if there are
any,
|| must be *uploaded*
|| | to the mail server, and incoming mail may be
*downloaded*
|| from the server.
|| | The method of tranfer may be different, but it's still
|| uploading and
|| | downloading.
|| ||
|| ||
|| || --
|| || The people think the Constitution protects their
rights;
|| || But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
|| ||
|| ||
|| || || || | Could someone please properly explain the meaning of
|| the
|| || word 'download'?
|| || | Where I work none of my co-workers knows a thing
beyond
|| || emailing and porn
|| || | when it comes to techno or should I say
techno-nothing.
|| || The word download
|| || | comes up when someone does any transfer of data. 'I
|| || downloaded windows last
|| || | night' can be heard at coffee break or 'could you
|| please
|| || download that onto
|| || | CD-ROM for me so I can take it home?'. I try to
explain
|| a
|| || difference because
|| || | these guys are anal about everything else they do
but I
|| am
|| || an outcast among
|| || | Intel midgets.
|| || |
|| || | Thanks.
|| || |
|| || | J.
|
| Yes, in fact the meaning of "install" has shifted since
the DOS-only days,
| when there was no Windows registry to deal with. Back
then, an installation
| routine on a disk was often just a batch file that created
a directory and
| copied the necessary files to it.
|
|

 

[Gerry Cornell]

Dialect equals different pronunciation. What do you expect?

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Gerry

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[Jim Macklin]

"Lot's of grammatical misnomers around. In the case you
sighted." Cited

Site=a place Cite= quote, citation Sight=vision as gun
sight eyesight


message
| Lot's of grammatical misnomers around. In the case you
sighted.
| I would think the proper terminology would be transferring
or
| installing instead of downloading.
|
| Maybe it's a Nit-Pick, but I talk customers through
issue(s) on the
| phone and hear all kinds of misstatements. I especially
enjoy hearing
| people pronounce Symantec and McAfee. It's interesting
that those
| two companies both have names that most folks call
"Sematek and
| Mac-affee"
|
|
| | > Ken Blake wrote:
| >
| >> In
| >> Hugh <[email protected]> typed:
| >>
| >>
| >>>From:
|| >>>"To transfer files or data from one computer to
another. To download
| >>>means to receive; to upload means to transmit. "
| >>>
| >>>This term is often misused to mean any file transfer
between devices,
| >>>i.e. "I downloaded the files from my camera to my
computer."
| >>
| >>
| >>
| >> Although that may be a technical misuse of the term, it
doesn't bother me
| >> very much, since the most important aspect of a
download is that it's a
| >> file transfer, and that's what's conveyed in that
sentence.
| >>
| >> But there's another misuse of the term that's becoming
much more common,
| >> and it is, in my view, a much greater problem--that's
using the word
| >> "download" to mean "install." That's just plain and
simple wrong, and
| >> typically leads to exchanges like the following:
| >>
| >> "How can I download Windows?"
| >>
| >> "You can't download it; you have to buy it."
| >>
| >> Because the first person misused the term, the second
didn't understand
| >> him, and the first probably didn't understand the
answer.
| >>
| >
| > What makes it worse is that big name software companies
make the same
| > mistake. Instal Lotus Notes and watch it say
"downloading files..." from
| > the CD.
| >
| > Steve
| >
|
|

 

[Steve N.]

"Lot's of grammatical misnomers around. In the case you
sighted." Cited

Site=a place Cite= quote, citation Sight=vision as gun
sight eyesight

Well, he's right either way, I sighted (saw it with my eyes) the case as
well as cited the case.



Steve

 

[Jim Macklin]

Not really. But with government education, grade inflation,
and TV, who can speak properly and writing is even more
difficult because the errors have a history.
Words that cause confusion...
To Too Two
Due Do Dew
There Their They're
and others too numerous to list.

More insidious, the typo caused by typing the wrong word
that is still a correctly spelled word. I often seem to
strike the B or N key when actually intending just the
spacebar, so "the" becomes "then" but since I am not (nor do
I claim to be a good typist) I sometimes get V or M. Some
of these types of errors are caught by the spell-check, but
the ones that aren't really look silly. And as a bad
typist, I sometimes get in a hurry and don't get a clean
keystroke so sometimes the letters is missed and it can
still be a valid word.

--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.



| Jim Macklin wrote:
|
| > "Lot's of grammatical misnomers around. In the case you
| > sighted." Cited
| >
| > Site=a place Cite= quote, citation Sight=vision as
gun
| > sight eyesight
|
| Well, he's right either way, I sighted (saw it with my
eyes) the case as
| well as cited the case.
|
|
|
| Steve
|
| >
| >
| > message
| >
| > | Lot's of grammatical misnomers around. In the case you
| > sighted.
| > | I would think the proper terminology would be
transferring
| > or
| > | installing instead of downloading.
| > |
| > | Maybe it's a Nit-Pick, but I talk customers through
| > issue(s) on the
| > | phone and hear all kinds of misstatements. I
especially
| > enjoy hearing
| > | people pronounce Symantec and McAfee. It's interesting
| > that those
| > | two companies both have names that most folks call
| > "Sematek and
| > | Mac-affee"
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > | > Ken Blake wrote:
| > | >
| > | >> In
| > | > | >> Hugh <[email protected]> typed:
| > | >>
| > | >>
| > | >>>From:
| > |
| >| > | >>>"To transfer files or data from one computer to
| > another. To download
| > | >>>means to receive; to upload means to transmit. "
| > | >>>
| > | >>>This term is often misused to mean any file
transfer
| > between devices,
| > | >>>i.e. "I downloaded the files from my camera to my
| > computer."
| > | >>
| > | >>
| > | >>
| > | >> Although that may be a technical misuse of the
term, it
| > doesn't bother me
| > | >> very much, since the most important aspect of a
| > download is that it's a
| > | >> file transfer, and that's what's conveyed in that
| > sentence.
| > | >>
| > | >> But there's another misuse of the term that's
becoming
| > much more common,
| > | >> and it is, in my view, a much greater
problem--that's
| > using the word
| > | >> "download" to mean "install." That's just plain and
| > simple wrong, and
| > | >> typically leads to exchanges like the following:
| > | >>
| > | >> "How can I download Windows?"
| > | >>
| > | >> "You can't download it; you have to buy it."
| > | >>
| > | >> Because the first person misused the term, the
second
| > didn't understand
| > | >> him, and the first probably didn't understand the
| > answer.
| > | >>
| > | >
| > | > What makes it worse is that big name software
companies
| > make the same
| > | > mistake. Instal Lotus Notes and watch it say
| > "downloading files..." from
| > | > the CD.
| > | >
| > | > Steve
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|

 

[Alex Nichol]

What makes it worse is that big name software companies make the same
mistake. Instal Lotus Notes and watch it say "downloading files..." from
the CD.

That is at least arguable, if you take the sense of 'transferring from
outside the machine (the CD) to the machine (HD, not necessarily in the
final place). It is only when all files are on the HD that installation
of them takes place (probably moving from a temporary folder and
registering)