Maxthon ver 1.6 as a substitute for IE6

[Roger Fink]

He has joined the geriatric society of United States {where Obama
promises everything and delivers nothing} but you seem to lick his
ass!

Oh oh. Sounds like another eToughguy.

 

[MEB]

I'm going to re-post this for MEB, because his favorite usenet server
censored this the first time.

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Wait a minute 98 Guy, on one hand *you recommend* installation of
*IE6 updates from W2K* into Win9X [you have repeatedly done that
in the win98.gen_discussion group], and here you state that leaving
Win98 IE6 at SP1 EOL level provides protection...

What I said was this:

| What it also means is that after June 2010, you're safer
| (from a drive-by exploit POV) running Win-98 than you are
| running win-2k.

The intention being that all 98-operable IE6 updates being made
available for 2K are being applied to 98 all along during the past 3
years - on the off-chance that circulating IE6 exploit code does in fact
execute properly on win-98 (and so the win-2K patches would therefore
provide protection against those exploits).

I previously made similar statements wherein I said

You are saying that you now believe that a win-98 machine is better off
with IE6 as it existed as of June 2006 vs having FF 2.0.0.20 as it
existed at it's EOL.

I would argue that surfing the web with IE6 is today a joke, and has
been for several years, due to the horrible job that IE6 does with
current web content, and that any vulnerabilities that is exposed by FF
..20 is trivial compared to the decency of the web experience it
provides.

And in others where *you* specifically argued and recommended
these installations of W2K update files into 9X IE6 REGARDLESS
of any new vulnerabilities these might install.

You continue to flog that bogus argument that these IE6 patches might,
or do, contain new (but undiscovered) vulnerabilities. What a complete
load of horse s.h.i.t thinking that is.

That logic could be applied to *ANY* patch or update that microsoft
releases *for anything*.

By your logic, if I'm running win-2K, and Microsoft releases a new IE6
patch for 2K, then maybe I shouldn't install it because even if fixes a
known vulnerability, it may give my system a new vulnerability to be
discovered at a later date.

I've pointed that out to you before, and you never provide a
satisfactory response.

On the other hand, it takes a malicious website a few
milliseconds to determine *exactly* what a browser supports
and what OS is being run [do to what the OS supports/offers
within it], hence its vulnerabilities, so...

And by that you are supposing:

a) operable unpatched IE6 vulnerabilities exists today within
win-98, and

b) hackers actually are aware of the vulnerabilities and have coded
them for correct delivery via web-server user-agent detection.

If you are aware of any real instances of (a), please tell us.

I don't have to tell you that the probability of (b) is low and getting
lower all the time.

OH REALLY,,, then I guess Google WASN"T just hacked via IE6.

You should get a grip on reality some day... install this W2K crap into
Win9X and you potentially bring ALL the vulnerabilities into your system
PLUS what ever might be specific to Win9X WHICH NO ONE CHECKS FOR...

THEY ARE TWO DIFFERENT OSs which require patches SPECIFIC to the OS
intended AND per whatever present level.... e.g., in the NTs the
specific Service pack level... the meory handling is different, the file
handling is different, the systems react in different ways... DUUUUUHHHHHHH

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[Sunny]

THEY ARE TWO DIFFERENT OSs which require patches SPECIFIC to the OS
intended AND per whatever present level.... e.g., in the NTs the
specific Service pack level... the meory handling is different, the file
handling is different, the systems react in different ways...
DUUUUUHHHHHHH

Microsoft has just announced a patch for IE6, wonder which OS it will be
aimed at

(I still use IE6 in Win98SE, and the Update site still shows me a few
critical updates avail)

 

[MEB]

Microsoft has just announced a patch for IE6, wonder which OS it will be
aimed at

(I still use IE6 in Win98SE, and the Update site still shows me a few
critical updates avail)

That's a choice you make.
What supposed criticals?
Since EOL?

My guess would be the NT based systems as usual. I would look for a
potential pull of IE6 or NT support sooner than expected. Maybe not,
since W2K is still under support..

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[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Hey Robear, you used to be smart enough to answer my questions. Now you
just
post links. What happened?

Now I'm working smart, too!

 

[Roger Fink]

Now I'm working smart, too!

Awesome retort, albeit poodlesque.

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Bite me.

Awesome retort, albeit poodlesque.

 

[N. Miller]

How the hell did you work this out with your small penis? In physics I have
worked out that people with small penises have smaller brain and
consequently they don't think rationally. they are depressed sods.

You are confusing your sciences; biology (penises and brains) is not
physics. Now that you have displayed your ignorance for all to see, I'll
just leave you to play with your lettered building blocks.

 

[Hot-text]

But Not For Us with 98
2000 and up
that stop making Update for 9x to ME>>>

 

[sunny]

That's a choice you make.
What supposed criticals?
Since EOL?

My guess would be the NT based systems as usual. I would look for a
potential pull of IE6 or NT support sooner than expected. Maybe not,
since W2K is still under support..

"Critical" only one
GDI Detection Tool
Others :
DirectX 9.0
Net 1.1
Mapped Drives shutdown
Agent 2.0

Does EOL mean "End of Life" ((End of support 11 Jul 2006)

 

[ANONYMOUS]

You are confusing your sciences; biology (penises and brains) is not
physics. Now that you have displayed your ignorance for all to see, I'll
just leave you to play with your lettered building blocks.

Physicists are better at "mensuration". Go and play with your teddy!.

Before you come out with another cockup read this definition:

mensuration

? noun measurement. ?the part of geometry concerned with ascertaining
lengths, areas, and volumes.

ORIGIN

C16: from late Latin mensuratio(n-), from mensurare 'to measure'.



This has nothing to do with women's periodic cycles. That is your biology!

hth

 

[Sunny]

But Not For Us with 98
2000 and up
that stop making Update for 9x to ME>>>

How do you know ? The "Security Patch" for IE6 has not appeared on XP WU
site yet.

 

[MEB]

"Critical" only one
GDI Detection Tool
Others :
DirectX 9.0
Net 1.1
Mapped Drives shutdown
Agent 2.0

Does EOL mean "End of Life" ((End of support 11 Jul 2006)

Yes, end of [support] life.

The GDI relates to MS Products so that's not really critical since it
will only tell you there are no updates, though it might depending upon
your update level {never really checked that}.

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...74-7142-4780-83E5-CE54401DA1D1&displaylang=en

Overview
The Microsoft GDI+ Detection Tool helps detect the presence of
non-Windows Microsoft products that contain the GDI+ component.
Microsoft customers can run this tool to help determine if a GDI+
security update should be applied.
....
This update applies to the following product: Picture It!, Picture It!
Publishing, Greetings, Digital Image Pro, and Digital Image Suite, .NET
Framework 1.0, .NET Framework 1.1, Visual Studio .NET 2002, Visual
Studio .NET 2003.


.. NET is a DO NOT INSTALL unless absolutely needed.
per my post in UNICOWS.DLL [win98.gen_discussions]

---QUOTE
" *SIMILAR SITUATION - .net*

The same holds true for .net; it is for developers, servers, and ONLY
those that require it for some reason, like within the local network.
Yet you do find some that suggest installation.

*Win98 at .net 1.1* [2003] and didn't even receive all of the updates
[2004 SP1] to that version, and where it was left apparently vulnerable.

List of bugs that are fixed in the .NET Framework 1.1 Service Pack 1
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=867460

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...ryid=7&freetext=asp.net+1.1&sortCriteria=date

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/results.aspx?freetext=.net+1.1&displaylang=en&stype=s_basic


*Win98 at .net 2.0* coming out in 2006 and supposedly installable in
Win98, SP1 update [2007] NOT available for Win98, nor any further.

Problems that are fixed in the .NET Framework 2.0 Service Pack 1
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/945757
"
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Of the others: the mapped drives might be useful if you have issues in
your network "hanging"
SYMPTOMS
When you shut down Windows and you have a significant number of mapped
network drives (network drives that have been assigned a local drive
letter), the computer may stop responding (hang). Note that this problem
is more likely to occur as the number of mapped drives increases. The
threshold that has been reported most often is eight mapped drives.;

Agent 2.0 was for the DOG and other stuff
Microsoft Agent is a software technology that enables an enriched form
of user interaction that can make using and learning to use a computer,
easier and more natural.;

DirectX 9.0 is there if you need it; it MAY cause issues with some older
games or video adapters.

Seems we drifted away from the discussion on this as none of those
relate to IE6

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[98 Guy]

How do you know ? The "Security Patch" for IE6 has not appeared
on XP WU site yet.

It's been available for direct-download on the MS site since at least 2
pm EST today.

It contains the usual set of about 2 dozen IE files. I haven't checked
MSFN yet, but I expect they already know the operability status of these
new files on win-98.

 

[98 Guy]

But Not For Us with 98
2000 and up
that stop making Update for 9x to ME>>>

What is your primary or first spoken language?

 

[Hot-text]

Before the white man came to the USA!
We spoken language of the Children of the middle water here first!!
And Yes we are on TOP of the POST
We are Not like the White Eye Who Read Right to left!

Why With out us your spoken language <<< JP >>> it was are
spoken language that Save Your WORLD FROM <<< G-MAN and J-MAN >>

And when the time came are spoken language WILL SAVE YOU FROM THE
RIGHT TO LEFT READERS TOO! For they like keeping you on the Sodom!

Keywords ::: Arabic

 

[98 Guy]

Before the white man came to the USA!
We spoken language of the Children of the middle water here first!!
We are Not like the White Eye Who Read Right to left!

Why With out us your spoken language <<< JP >>> it was are
spoken language that Save Your WORLD FROM <<< G-MAN and J-MAN >>

And when the time came are spoken language WILL SAVE YOU FROM THE
RIGHT TO LEFT READERS TOO! For they like keeping you on the Sodom!

Keywords ::: Arabic

I really don't understand most of what you wrote.

What is the middle water?

Who has the White Eyes?

Who (or what) is the spoken language JP?

Who is G-MAN and J-Man?

I believe that both Jews and Arabs read right-to-left, so who are you
referring to?

How am I (or, how are we) "on the Sodom" ?

And for MEB - is there anything you want to ask or comment on regarding
this reply from Hot Text?

 

[98 Guy]

Still waiting for MEB to comment on what Hot-text said above.

What's the matter MEB?

I know you've read it. What are you waiting for?

 

[98 Guy]

Before the white man came to the USA!
We spoken language of the Children of the middle water here first!!
We are Not like the White Eye Who Read Right to left!

Why With out us your spoken language <<< JP >>> it was are
spoken language that Save Your WORLD FROM <<< G-MAN and J-MAN >>

And when the time came are spoken language WILL SAVE YOU FROM THE
RIGHT TO LEFT READERS TOO! For they like keeping you on the Sodom!

Keywords ::: Arabic

I really don't understand most of what you wrote.

What is (or where is) the middle water?

Who has the White Eyes?

Who (or what) is the spoken language JP?

Who is G-MAN and J-Man?

I believe that both Jews and Arabs read right-to-left, so who are you
referring to?

How am I (or, how are we) "on the Sodom" ?

And for MEB - is there anything you want to ask or comment on regarding
this reply from Hot Text?

 

[MEB]

Still waiting for MEB to comment on what Hot-text said above.

What's the matter MEB?

I know you've read it. What are you waiting for?

Hey dimwit, look elsewhere....

AND, you may want to brush up on your history of mankind so you know
what the basis of this was...

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