lost OEM disc. how to get new one?

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Guest

I was thinking of formatting the hard drive and do a clean reinstall of
Windows and applications.

I have an OEM license of Windows XP Pro Swedish that came with this comp. I
got an CD (or DVD cant rememeber) with it. Bad thing is I can't find the disc
:/

I bought a license and not a disc really, so I guess I could download a new
burnable copy from Microsoft or order a new CD for a nominal fee?

If not, I guess it was a disc I bought and not a license? ;)
 
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GHalleck

Swedeequalsturnip said:
I was thinking of formatting the hard drive and do a clean reinstall of
Windows and applications.

I have an OEM license of Windows XP Pro Swedish that came with this comp. I
got an CD (or DVD cant rememeber) with it. Bad thing is I can't find the disc
:/

I bought a license and not a disc really, so I guess I could download a new
burnable copy from Microsoft or order a new CD for a nominal fee?

If not, I guess it was a disc I bought and not a license? ;)

No such legitimate downloads for the Windows OS exists. Two choices:
Contact the OEM-seller for a replacement Windows XP cdrom or recovery
disc. Or, if one knows exactly what was the Windows XP product (i.e.,
XP-SP1, XP-SP2, etc.), borrow a similar cdrom and rip it. All that is
needed to activate XP with the re-install is the valid Product Key or
COA. And, applications? If these were bundled by the OEM, then the
only recourse is the OEM.
 
R

Rock

GHalleck said:
No such legitimate downloads for the Windows OS exists. Two choices:
Contact the OEM-seller for a replacement Windows XP cdrom or recovery
disc. Or, if one knows exactly what was the Windows XP product (i.e.,
XP-SP1, XP-SP2, etc.), borrow a similar cdrom and rip it. All that is
needed to activate XP with the re-install is the valid Product Key or
COA. And, applications? If these were bundled by the OEM, then the
only recourse is the OEM.


I think you meant copy the installation CD, not rip it.
 
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GHalleck

Rock said:
I think you meant copy the installation CD, not rip it.

"Rip" = duplicate, as in diskcopy. AFAIK, the Windows XP installation
cdrom can be duplicated in this manner (for protection backup).
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

Swedeequalsturnip said:
I was thinking of formatting the hard drive and do a clean reinstall
of Windows and applications.


Why? In my view, it's usually a mistake. With a modicum of care, it should
never be necessary to reinstall Windows (XP or any other version). I've run
Windows 3.0, 3.1, WFWG 3.11, Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows 2000, and
Windows XP, each for the period of time before the next version came out,
and each on two machines here. I never reinstalled any of them, and I have
never had anything more than an occasional minor problem.

It's my belief that this mistaken notion stems from the technical support
people at many of the larger OEMs. Their solution to almost any problem they
don't quickly know the answer to is "reformat and reinstall." That's the
perfect solution for them. It gets you off the phone quickly, it almost
always works, and it doesn't require them to do any real troubleshooting (a
skill that most of them obviously don't possess in any great degree).

But it leaves you with all the work and all the problems. You have to
restore all your data backups, you have to reinstall all your programs, you
have to reinstall all the Windows and application updates,you have to locate
and install all the needed drivers for your system, you have to recustomize
Windows and all your apps to work the way you're comfortable with.

Besides all those things being time-consuming and troublesome, you may have
trouble with some of them: can you find all your application CDs? Can you
find all the needed installation codes? Do you have data backups to restore?
Do you even remember all the customizations and tweaks you may have
installed to make everything work the way you like? Occasionally there are
problems that are so difficult to solve that Windows should be reinstalled
cleanly. But they are few and far between; reinstallation should not be a
substitute for troubleshooting; it should be a last resort, to be done only
after all other attempts at troubleshooting by a qualified person have
failed.

If you have problems, post them here; it's likely that someone can help you
and a reinstallation won't be required.


I have an OEM license of Windows XP Pro Swedish that came with this
comp. I got an CD (or DVD cant rememeber) with it. Bad thing is I
can't find the disc :/

I bought a license and not a disc really, so I guess I could download
a new burnable copy from Microsoft

No.


or order a new CD for a nominal
fee?


Possibly, but not from Microsoft. With a retail copy the answer would be
yes, but with an OEM version, your recourse is with your OEM. Contact them
to find out if they will help you.
 
R

Rock

GHalleck said:
"Rip" = duplicate, as in diskcopy. AFAIK, the Windows XP installation
cdrom can be duplicated in this manner (for protection backup).


Rip generally means to copy a CD to a hard drive, not to make a disk copy.
 
R

Rock

GHalleck said:
"Rip" = duplicate, as in diskcopy. AFAIK, the Windows XP installation
cdrom can be duplicated in this manner (for protection backup).


Ack, the last post when through before I finished it. In any event, it's
just an issue of usage. I don't normally use it that way, but it's not any
big deal.
 
B

BR549

GHalleck said:
"Rip" = duplicate, as in diskcopy. AFAIK, the Windows XP installation
cdrom can be duplicated in this manner (for protection backup).

I don't think so. "Rip" is the process of copying data from a cd or dvd to
ones hard drive and it typically applies to music or video. You wouldn't
rip a Windows XP cd, you would copy it.
 
G

Guest

Ken Blake said:
Why? In my view, it's usually a mistake. With a modicum of care, it should
never be necessary to reinstall Windows (XP or any other version). I've run
Windows 3.0, 3.1, WFWG 3.11, Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows 2000, and
Windows XP, each for the period of time before the next version came out,
and each on two machines here. I never reinstalled any of them, and I have
never had anything more than an occasional minor problem.

come on mate you ARE an MVP !!
 
G

Guest

Thank you for your replies

The OEM was a small business that made computers by order. And they dont
work with computers anymore. The disc was only Windows and the apps that
always comes with it. Strange thing is that very disc, the OEM company bought
from Microsoft with no added modifications on it. So why can't I buy a
replacement disc from Microsoft? or download one. I have the license number
and it is a registered copy. Registered with Microsoft, not the company that
made the computer and sold me the license, mind you. Payed for and registered
the product. The registration seems not to be worth very much then for the
person who payed for the product (or rather payed for the license)? It wasn't
a cheap license when it comes to operative systems for personal computers.

So I have to find a person which owns a copy of XP pro? (Most persons have
XP Home version on their private comps, well at least if they bought and paid
a license.) It is a bit comical... .

A licensed OS isn't really a physical product that I happened to lose. Or
maybe it is?

Mikael
 
B

Bob I

Mani said:
:




come on mate you ARE an MVP !!

MVP is merely a user that is recogized by Microsoft as having provided
good advice. Good advice comes from past experience.
 
J

John

Why? In my view, it's usually a mistake. With a modicum of care, it should
never be necessary to reinstall Windows (XP or any other version). I've run
Windows 3.0, 3.1, WFWG 3.11, Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows 2000, and
Windows XP, each for the period of time before the next version came out,
and each on two machines here. I never reinstalled any of them, and I have
never had anything more than an occasional minor problem.

It's my belief that this mistaken notion stems from the technical support
people at many of the larger OEMs. Their solution to almost any problem they
don't quickly know the answer to is "reformat and reinstall." That's the
perfect solution for them. It gets you off the phone quickly, it almost
always works, and it doesn't require them to do any real troubleshooting (a
skill that most of them obviously don't possess in any great degree).

But it leaves you with all the work and all the problems. You have to
restore all your data backups, you have to reinstall all your programs, you
have to reinstall all the Windows and application updates,you have to locate
and install all the needed drivers for your system, you have to recustomize
Windows and all your apps to work the way you're comfortable with.

Besides all those things being time-consuming and troublesome, you may have
trouble with some of them: can you find all your application CDs? Can you
find all the needed installation codes? Do you have data backups to restore?
Do you even remember all the customizations and tweaks you may have
installed to make everything work the way you like? Occasionally there are
problems that are so difficult to solve that Windows should be reinstalled
cleanly. But they are few and far between; reinstallation should not be a
substitute for troubleshooting; it should be a last resort, to be done only
after all other attempts at troubleshooting by a qualified person have
failed.

If you have problems, post them here; it's likely that someone can help you
and a reinstallation won't be required.





Possibly, but not from Microsoft. With a retail copy the answer would be
yes, but with an OEM version, your recourse is with your OEM. Contact them
to find out if they will help you.


Come off the high horse dude. Most people don't have cloning software,
or for that matter the media to clone to, for an easy restore of a hard
drive gone bad. The XP CD and application CDs *is* the backup for most
people.

John
 

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