Looking for All-in-One Printer, Scanner & fax

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Toby Briggs

Have been trying to find a good All-in-One as per the subject.

Does anyone have any suggestions/recommendations for one?

Would prefer it to be a flatbed scanner, as I find they are better.
Also the printer to be very good - looking to print flyers,
newsletters, etc.

Looking to pay around c.£100.

Cheers,

Tobes
 
D

Dave

I'm running a Canon Pixma MP450. Very satisfied with the scanner
resolution/speed as well as pring quality, both text and photo. I
think with the instant rebate at Office Depot I paid right at US $100
 
B

Bob Headrick

Toby Briggs said:
Have been trying to find a good All-in-One as per the subject.

Does anyone have any suggestions/recommendations for one?

Would prefer it to be a flatbed scanner, as I find they are better.
Also the printer to be very good - looking to print flyers,
newsletters, etc.

Do you need to print color (= inkjet) or is B&W (=laser) sufficient? If
you are printing in color will you need to print photo's as well? How
many prints do you expect to make per month? What special features are
desired or important? (Examples - automatic two-sided printing, sheet
feeder, camera slots, etc.) What kind of connection do you need - USB
or networked?

Personally I use a Photosmart 2610 which is a flatbed
scanner/copier/fax/printer with a duplexer. It is available from Costco
for $179, see
http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11008014&whse=&topnav=&browse=&s=1.
It uses the large size black cartridges, good for about 800 pages of
text in normal or best modes, has memory slots for direct printing from
camera cards and is networked or USB. This may or may not be a match
for you, depending what you need. Please give some more details of your
needs.

Regards,
Bob Headrick, MS MVP Printing/Imaging
 
T

Toby Briggs

Bob said:
Do you need to print color (= inkjet) or is B&W (=laser) sufficient? If
you are printing in color will you need to print photo's as well? How
many prints do you expect to make per month? What special features are
desired or important? (Examples - automatic two-sided printing, sheet
feeder, camera slots, etc.) What kind of connection do you need - USB
or networked?

Personally I use a Photosmart 2610 which is a flatbed
scanner/copier/fax/printer with a duplexer. It is available from Costco
for $179, see
http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11008014&whse=&topnav=&browse=&s=1.
It uses the large size black cartridges, good for about 800 pages of
text in normal or best modes, has memory slots for direct printing from
camera cards and is networked or USB. This may or may not be a match
for you, depending what you need. Please give some more details of your
needs.

Regards,
Bob Headrick, MS MVP Printing/Imaging

Thanks Bob.

Sadly that printer, although looks perfect is about £170 over here in
the UK - just a bit over my budget.

Photos aren't a necessity for printing.
USB connection
As am printing flyers - colour inkjet would have to be the one
I'm looking to probably print up to 250 pages a month, but can go upto
1000 at other times.

Anyways - am popping over to Staples to have a look at the printers,
and will see what I can get.

Many thanks,

Toby
 
M

measekite

Bob said:
Do you need to print color (= inkjet) or is B&W (=laser) sufficient?
If you are printing in color will you need to print photo's as well?
How many prints do you expect to make per month? What special
features are desired or important? (Examples - automatic two-sided
printing, sheet feeder, camera slots, etc.) What kind of connection
do you need - USB or networked?

Personally I use a Photosmart 2610 which is a flatbed
scanner/copier/fax/printer with a duplexer.

Thats because he is a retired HP employee.
It is available from Costco

So is a Canon. If you can find a Canon MP780 that may be the best bet.
You might be able to get one after rebate for around the same price or less.
for $179, see
http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11008014&whse=&topnav=&browse=&s=1.
It uses the large size black cartridges, good for about 800 pages of
text in normal or best modes, has memory slots for direct printing
from camera cards and is networked or USB. This may or may not be a
match for you, depending what you need. Please give some more details
of your needs.

Regards,
Bob Headrick, MS MVP Printing/Imaging

Retired HP Employee Now in another printing business
 
T

Tony

measekite said:
Bob Headrick wrote:


Retired HP Employee Now in another printing business

Sigh,
You never give up trying to mislead people.
I (and you) have no idea whether Bob is in another printing business or not. It
doesn't matter a damn anyway.
MS MVP does not mean he is in business, it means he helps people (unpaid) under
the Microsoft MVPS program. Becoming a MS MVP requires good knowledge and
accuracy and a commitment to helping people. You would fail miserably in all
categories.
People are awarded MVP status, there is no way to apply.
Tony
 
G

Guest

I got the EPSON CX3800 about a month ago.
Cost $65 wih shipping.

It's a combination printer/scannner/copier.

I'm very pleased.
Good interface software too.
( I'm in the process of scanning numerous photo albums )

The ink cartridges look smaller than my last printer cart's,
but that's why there are "generics"....




Have been trying to find a good All-in-One as per the subject.

Does anyone have any suggestions/recommendations for one?

Would prefer it to be a flatbed scanner, as I find they are better.
Also the printer to be very good - looking to print flyers,
newsletters, etc.

Looking to pay around c.£100.

Cheers,

Tobes

<rj>
 
Z

zakezuke

Looking to pay around c.£100.

While I'm sure you can get a printer for 100 quid, you might seriously
consider 125 to 200 quid. simply put printers in the low price range
esp. all in one units cost more to operate, so much more that given
your volume

"....up to 250 pages a month, but can go upto
1000 at other times. "

For an inkjet, oem ink.... that's about 5 quid a month for black
assuming a Canon mp500. Going to let's let a canon mp150 That's 6
quid according to my sources on Amazon.co.uk. This isn't "so" bad for
black alone, basicly an extra quid per ream of paper. Consider the
mp500 costs £135 and the mp130 costs £85. Sure it's an extra £50
but given your talking about 250 to 1000 pages, that 50p to £2.00 adds
up quickly. Add color to the equation, which I am too lazy to work out
the numbers at this moment and boom, that could easily hit 50quid extra
in a short period of time.

The choice is yours in the end, you may consider your use to be so low
that an extra quid or two here and there through out the lifetime of a
printer is no big deal. But do take the time to think about it.

The mp780 as pointed out by another user isn't a bad choice, though
very spendy in the UK at over 200quid, which techincaly in terms of
printing text is probally unpar with the mp500, color though I can't
say but the mp500 drops are smaller and the rated resolution is higher.
The mp780 has the autodoc feeder and fax.
 
F

Fenrir Enterprises

Have been trying to find a good All-in-One as per the subject.

Does anyone have any suggestions/recommendations for one?

Would prefer it to be a flatbed scanner, as I find they are better.
Also the printer to be very good - looking to print flyers,
newsletters, etc.

Looking to pay around c.=A3100.

Cheers,

Tobes

For the amount of printing you're talking about, you want one of the
HPs that takes the giant (10/11) cartridges; The 1100D, which is just
a printer, has a maximum reccomended monthly usage of about 6500
pages. There are very few all-in-ones that take these, such as this

<http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0001OGMQ6/203-1505873-4297547>

which is way out of your price range.

If you want to

1) print 250-1000 sheets a month AND
2) have all-in-one functionality, you will have to either

A) Buy a cheap 'business' inkjet in your price range, then spend
thousands of dollars a year in ink cartridges, or refill them. If you
buy one of the OfficeJet models that takes the 56 or 96 cartridges,
which are common, and try to print 1000 pages a month, especially with
images, you will be spending about the cost of the printer in
cartridges each month unless you refill. You can get relatively
inexpensive continuous flow systems for Epsons, but I am not sure if
there's one for Epson All-In-One printers. Plus the Epson printheads
themselves may not hold up to the volume you're talking about.

B) Buy an expensive office jet printer. Bigger initial cost, but much
less for ink. The 10 and 11 cartridges are MUCH easier to refill than
most HP cartridges. Continuous flow systems for these printers tend to
be horribly expensive (the one for the HP 1100/1200 is $300, $100 more
than the printer itself). Epson doesn't really have business class
printers, they do have 'office' ones, but the print cartridges are
generally just as tiny as their photo/deskjet ones. However, the price
for an HP OfficeJet All-In-One that takes the giant cartridges is just
as expensive as a color laser printer these days, so this option isn't
as good as it used to be.

C) Buy a color laser printer. Initial cost these days can be
reasonable, but will be more expensive if you want on the all-in-one
capabilities. Your initial cost will be very high. Resupplying it will
also be expensive. However, your cost per print will be incredibly
small. Your prints will also look extremely professional compared to
the inkjet.

Personally, if I were you, I would look into getting a business class
regular printer (such as the 1200D, which is discontinued but can
still be ordered, for now) for printing straight off the computer, and
get a cheaper all-in-one machine for any copying you want to do.
Refill or get a CFS for the business machine if your volume needs
increase. You will not find an all-in-one at your price that will not
cost you a fortune in ink in a very short time. The 56 black that many
HP all-in-ones take costs $30 and has about 20ml of ink. The 10 Black
for the 1200D costs $35 and contains 69ml of ink. If you expect your
volume to increase a lot, you may want to consider a laser printer.
The initial price is high, but you need to factor in the cost per
page. You will soon regret buying a printer in your price range (about
$175 US) a month or so later when you've spent another $175 in ink.

---

http://www.FenrirOnline.com

Computer services, custom metal etching,
arts, crafts, and much more.
 
M

measekite

AY YES ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF A SHILL

Fenrir said:
For the amount of printing you're talking about, you want one of the
HPs that takes the giant (10/11) cartridges; The 1100D, which is just
a printer, has a maximum reccomended monthly usage of about 6500
pages. There are very few all-in-ones that take these, such as this

<http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0001OGMQ6/203-1505873-4297547>

which is way out of your price range.

If you want to

1) print 250-1000 sheets a month AND
2) have all-in-one functionality, you will have to either

A) Buy a cheap 'business' inkjet in your price range, then spend
thousands of dollars a year in ink cartridges, or refill them. If you
buy one of the OfficeJet models that takes the 56 or 96 cartridges,
which are common, and try to print 1000 pages a month, especially with
images, you will be spending about the cost of the printer in
cartridges each month unless you refill. You can get relatively
inexpensive continuous flow systems for Epsons, but I am not sure if
there's one for Epson All-In-One printers. Plus the Epson printheads
themselves may not hold up to the volume you're talking about.

B) Buy an expensive office jet printer. Bigger initial cost, but much
less for ink. The 10 and 11 cartridges are MUCH easier to refill than
most HP cartridges. Continuous flow systems for these printers tend to
be horribly expensive (the one for the HP 1100/1200 is $300, $100 more
than the printer itself). Epson doesn't really have business class
printers, they do have 'office' ones, but the print cartridges are
generally just as tiny as their photo/deskjet ones. However, the price
for an HP OfficeJet All-In-One that takes the giant cartridges is just
as expensive as a color laser printer these days, so this option isn't
as good as it used to be.

C) Buy a color laser printer. Initial cost these days can be
reasonable, but will be more expensive if you want on the all-in-one
capabilities. Your initial cost will be very high. Resupplying it will
also be expensive. However, your cost per print will be incredibly
small. Your prints will also look extremely professional compared to
the inkjet.

Personally, if I were you, I would look into getting a business class
regular printer (such as the 1200D, which is discontinued but can
still be ordered, for now) for printing straight off the computer, and
get a cheaper all-in-one machine for any copying you want to do.
Refill or get a CFS for the business machine if your volume needs
increase. You will not find an all-in-one at your price that will not
cost you a fortune in ink in a very short time. The 56 black that many
HP all-in-ones take costs $30 and has about 20ml of ink. The 10 Black
for the 1200D costs $35 and contains 69ml of ink. If you expect your
volume to increase a lot, you may want to consider a laser printer.
The initial price is high, but you need to factor in the cost per
page. You will soon regret buying a printer in your price range (about
$175 US) a month or so later when you've spent another $175 in ink.

---

http://www.FenrirOnline.com

Computer services, custom metal etching,
arts, crafts, and much more.
 
B

Bob Headrick

Toby Briggs said:
Photos aren't a necessity for printing.
USB connection
As am printing flyers - colour inkjet would have to be the one
I'm looking to probably print up to 250 pages a month, but can
go up to 1000 at other times.

For HP printers you can check the page yield for cartridges at
http://www.hp.com/go/pageyield. You will probably want to find similar
information if you choose a different vendor. At your usage you would
want to avoid the lower end units that only use the smaller cartridges.
I would think an HP printer that accepts the #339/344 (regional
equivalent to the US 96/97) cartridges could meet your needs. The black
cartridge delivers about 800 pages of normal text, color is about 450
pages. The Photosmart 2575 may meet your needs, at £99, see
http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/uk/e...369133-7369133-7369155-12209612-46354735.html.
This printer comes with the 338/343 cartridge set but will accommodate
the larger cartridges.

Regards,
Bob Headrick, MS MVP Printing/Imaging
 
M

measekite

Bob said:
For HP printers you can check the page yield for cartridges at
http://www.hp.com/go/pageyield. You will probably want to find
similar information if you choose a different vendor. At your usage
you would want to avoid the lower end units that only use the smaller
cartridges. I would think an HP printer that accepts the #339/344
(regional equivalent to the US 96/97) cartridges could meet your
needs. The black cartridge delivers about 800 pages of normal text,
color is about 450 pages. The Photosmart 2575 may meet your needs,
at £99, see
http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/uk/e...369133-7369133-7369155-12209612-46354735.html.
This printer comes with the 338/343 cartridge set but will accommodate
the larger cartridges.

Regards,
Bob Headrick, MS MVP Printing/Imaging
So what business did you go into?
 
T

Toby Briggs

Bob said:
For HP printers you can check the page yield for cartridges at
http://www.hp.com/go/pageyield. You will probably want to find similar
information if you choose a different vendor. At your usage you would
want to avoid the lower end units that only use the smaller cartridges.
I would think an HP printer that accepts the #339/344 (regional
equivalent to the US 96/97) cartridges could meet your needs. The black
cartridge delivers about 800 pages of normal text, color is about 450
pages. The Photosmart 2575 may meet your needs, at £99, see
http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/uk/e...369133-7369133-7369155-12209612-46354735.html.
This printer comes with the 338/343 cartridge set but will accommodate
the larger cartridges.

Regards,
Bob Headrick, MS MVP Printing/Imaging

Our local Staples had the HP Photosmart 2610 for £140 incl. VAT, so
I've gone for that.

Any idea how I can scan documents, so they can be edited in Word?

MTIA,

Toby
 
M

measekite

If you must have a MFP then if you can get a Canon MP780 would be a
better choice than HP
 
Z

zakezuke

If you must have a MFP then if you can get a Canon MP780 would be a
better choice than HP

The mp780 is over 100 quid, it's more like 200 quid, and costs about
the same as the mp800. You really need to keep in mind the fact that
different markets have different prices. And the simple fact that
there is NO canon with fax and network support. That's a desired
feature.
Toby Briggs
Our local Staples had the HP Photosmart 2610 for £140 incl. VAT, so
I've gone for that. Any idea how I can scan documents, so they can
be edited in Word?

I'm a little confused on the 2610 models, one seems to be listed as
taking large cartridges, the other listed as taking 6 smaller ones.
That might just be the 2610V.

I'm not sure exactly what OCR software that HP is using. But if you
install their full drivers and software it should be a simple matter of
scaning in black and selecting microsoft word as the target
application. This is chapter 8 in your users manual and it's very
vague. It says it's part of the "HP Image Zone". If you find that
inadquate you might have to search for something else. For example my
canon came with ScanSoft OmniPage SE... I don't use it much but I can
plop in graphics and edit the text.
 
B

Bob Headrick

Our local Staples had the HP Photosmart 2610 for £140 incl. VAT,
so I've gone for that.
Any idea how I can scan documents, so they can be edited in Word?

If you install the full driver you should be able to go to the HP
Digital Imaging Monitor, click on "Scan Document", check the boxes for
"Document", "scan for editable text (OCR)" and "document contains
graphics" if appropriate, then select "scan to Microsoft Word". The
scanner will then scan a review page, then after some time Word will
open with the file in editable format, including graphics. I do not use
this feature much, but just tried it on my 2610 and can verify that it
works.

I think you will be happy with your choice.

Regards,
Bob Headrick
 

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