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Chris

hi,
i am reposting this because it did not get a responce.
if i am in the wrong place please let me know. if it is
a none issues please let me know. if i am not clear in
my question or description please let me know.
i access the internet with a wireless setup from my house
to my ISP. i connect my computer to this network with a
10/100 nic card. over the last couple of months i have
had a few issues and in trouble shooting the issues i
in/reinstalled several network cards in various pci slots
(only after much headache to have the isp say "oops, we
found a setting that needed to be changed on our
server". don't hate that?).
well, now when i go to start/setting/network connections
my local area connection is numbered 22. i only have one
local area connection. i don't think it is impacting
anything just a bothersome reminder. is there a way i
can clear that number, (i don't mean just renaming it)?
i would remove the network components but it isn't as
straightforeward as it was in win98.
thanks for your help.
Chris
 
You can simply rename it like you were renaming a word
document. Click on it 2 times (or until it allows you to
edit the name).
 
You can try device manager. Click on View, show hidden devices. See what
shows up under network adapters. If that doesn't work, you might do a
registry search for the previous numbers and delete the references.
 
thanks Rob,
nothing showed in device manager after clicking the "show
hidden" so i went to the registry.
in the registry i found referrences to the previous
numbers but there were also four other keys in the same
dir that the referrences to the numbers were in. should
i just delete the key that refers to a previous number,
delete the other keys also in the same dir, or just
delete the dir that holds the key with the reference to a
previous number?

thanks again for your help.
Chris
 
Don't edit the reg. Use the following plus "show hidden devices" to show
non-present devices.

Type the following commands at a command prompt

set DEVMGR_SHOW_NONPRESENT_DEVICES=1
devmgmt.msc
 
thanks for your reply Ken but i am still left with
my "local area connection" numbered at 22.
while all kinds of things showed in the device manager
that i had not seen there before, under network adaptor
all that showed was what should have showed, no doubles,
no references to NICS that were not installed, just the
listing for my present card.

so far, Rob's suggestion to check the registry is the
only thing that has turned up any reference to
connections that are not there. so, i am still left with
the question, should i just delete the key that refers
to a previous number, delete the other keys also in the
same dir, or just delete the dir that holds the key with
the reference to a previous number?
-----Original Message-----
Don't edit the reg. Use the following plus "show hidden devices" to show
non-present devices.

Type the following commands at a command prompt

set DEVMGR_SHOW_NONPRESENT_DEVICES=1
devmgmt.msc


--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.


thanks Rob,
nothing showed in device manager after clicking the "show
hidden" so i went to the registry.
in the registry i found referrences to the previous
numbers but there were also four other keys in the same
dir that the referrences to the numbers were in. should
i just delete the key that refers to a previous number,
delete the other keys also in the same dir, or just
delete the dir that holds the key with the reference to a
previous number?

thanks again for your help.
Chris hidden
devices. See what work,
you might do a the
references. in
message you
to it
is clear
in say "oops,
we


.
 
If it were me, I would just rename the LAN connection and forget about it.

I assume that the stuff you found in the registry is here:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Network\{4D36E972-E325-1
1CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}

Don't delete that key.

It is probably safe to delete the subkeys that refer to old network cards,
but probably not worth the bother.

--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.


Chris said:
thanks for your reply Ken but i am still left with
my "local area connection" numbered at 22.
while all kinds of things showed in the device manager
that i had not seen there before, under network adaptor
all that showed was what should have showed, no doubles,
no references to NICS that were not installed, just the
listing for my present card.

so far, Rob's suggestion to check the registry is the
only thing that has turned up any reference to
connections that are not there. so, i am still left with
the question, should i just delete the key that refers
to a previous number, delete the other keys also in the
same dir, or just delete the dir that holds the key with
the reference to a previous number?
-----Original Message-----
Don't edit the reg. Use the following plus "show hidden devices" to show
non-present devices.

Type the following commands at a command prompt

set DEVMGR_SHOW_NONPRESENT_DEVICES=1
devmgmt.msc


--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.


thanks Rob,
nothing showed in device manager after clicking the "show
hidden" so i went to the registry.
in the registry i found referrences to the previous
numbers but there were also four other keys in the same
dir that the referrences to the numbers were in. should
i just delete the key that refers to a previous number,
delete the other keys also in the same dir, or just
delete the dir that holds the key with the reference to a
previous number?

thanks again for your help.
Chris
-----Original Message-----
You can try device manager. Click on View, show hidden
devices. See what
shows up under network adapters. If that doesn't work,
you might do a
registry search for the previous numbers and delete the
references.

message
You can simply rename it like you were renaming a word
document. Click on it 2 times (or until it allows you
to
edit the name).


-----Original Message-----
hi,
i am reposting this because it did not get a responce.
if i am in the wrong place please let me know. if it
is
a none issues please let me know. if i am not clear
in
my question or description please let me know.
i access the internet with a wireless setup from my
house
to my ISP. i connect my computer to this network
with a
10/100 nic card. over the last couple of months i
have
had a few issues and in trouble shooting the issues i
in/reinstalled several network cards in various pci
slots
(only after much headache to have the isp say "oops,
we
found a setting that needed to be changed on our
server". don't hate that?).
well, now when i go to start/setting/network
connections
my local area connection is numbered 22. i only have
one
local area connection. i don't think it is impacting
anything just a bothersome reminder. is there a way i
can clear that number, (i don't mean just renaming
it)?
i would remove the network components but it isn't as
straightforeward as it was in win98.
thanks for your help.
Chris

.



.


.
 
your assumption is correct.
my primary quandry is that it seems to take a while on
boot to recgonize the connection, sometimes up to a full
minute, and was thinking that might have something to do
with it taking so long.

thanks for the feedback.
Chris
-----Original Message-----
If it were me, I would just rename the LAN connection and forget about it.

I assume that the stuff you found in the registry is here:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Netwo
rk\{4D36E972-E325-1
1CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}

Don't delete that key.

It is probably safe to delete the subkeys that refer to old network cards,
but probably not worth the bother.

--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.


thanks for your reply Ken but i am still left with
my "local area connection" numbered at 22.
while all kinds of things showed in the device manager
that i had not seen there before, under network adaptor
all that showed was what should have showed, no doubles,
no references to NICS that were not installed, just the
listing for my present card.

so far, Rob's suggestion to check the registry is the
only thing that has turned up any reference to
connections that are not there. so, i am still left with
the question, should i just delete the key that refers
to a previous number, delete the other keys also in the
same dir, or just delete the dir that holds the key with
the reference to a previous number?
hidden
devices" to show and
confers no rights. wrote
in allows
you if
it isn't
as


.
 
I wouldn't think so. What is taking so long, getting an address?

--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.


Chris said:
your assumption is correct.
my primary quandry is that it seems to take a while on
boot to recgonize the connection, sometimes up to a full
minute, and was thinking that might have something to do
with it taking so long.

thanks for the feedback.
Chris
-----Original Message-----
If it were me, I would just rename the LAN connection and forget about it.

I assume that the stuff you found in the registry is here:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Netwo
rk\{4D36E972-E325-1
1CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}

Don't delete that key.

It is probably safe to delete the subkeys that refer to old network cards,
but probably not worth the bother.

--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.


thanks for your reply Ken but i am still left with
my "local area connection" numbered at 22.
while all kinds of things showed in the device manager
that i had not seen there before, under network adaptor
all that showed was what should have showed, no doubles,
no references to NICS that were not installed, just the
listing for my present card.

so far, Rob's suggestion to check the registry is the
only thing that has turned up any reference to
connections that are not there. so, i am still left with
the question, should i just delete the key that refers
to a previous number, delete the other keys also in the
same dir, or just delete the dir that holds the key with
the reference to a previous number?

-----Original Message-----
Don't edit the reg. Use the following plus "show hidden
devices" to show
non-present devices.

Type the following commands at a command prompt

set DEVMGR_SHOW_NONPRESENT_DEVICES=1
devmgmt.msc


--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights.


message
thanks Rob,
nothing showed in device manager after clicking
the "show
hidden" so i went to the registry.
in the registry i found referrences to the previous
numbers but there were also four other keys in the same
dir that the referrences to the numbers were in.
should
i just delete the key that refers to a previous number,
delete the other keys also in the same dir, or just
delete the dir that holds the key with the reference
to a
previous number?

thanks again for your help.
Chris
-----Original Message-----
You can try device manager. Click on View, show
hidden
devices. See what
shows up under network adapters. If that doesn't
work,
you might do a
registry search for the previous numbers and delete
the
references.

in
message
You can simply rename it like you were renaming a
word
document. Click on it 2 times (or until it allows
you
to
edit the name).


-----Original Message-----
hi,
i am reposting this because it did not get a
responce.
if i am in the wrong place please let me know. if
it
is
a none issues please let me know. if i am not
clear
in
my question or description please let me know.
i access the internet with a wireless setup from my
house
to my ISP. i connect my computer to this network
with a
10/100 nic card. over the last couple of months i
have
had a few issues and in trouble shooting the
issues i
in/reinstalled several network cards in various pci
slots
(only after much headache to have the isp
say "oops,
we
found a setting that needed to be changed on our
server". don't hate that?).
well, now when i go to start/setting/network
connections
my local area connection is numbered 22. i only
have
one
local area connection. i don't think it is
impacting
anything just a bothersome reminder. is there a
way i
can clear that number, (i don't mean just renaming
it)?
i would remove the network components but it isn't
as
straightforeward as it was in win98.
thanks for your help.
Chris

.



.



.


.
 
thanks Ken.
the process:
power on, post, boot dialog, splash screen, welcome
screen, loads desktop, starts loading systray (only run
antivirus, incd, a weather program in the systray) but at
this point it can take up to a minute for the network
icon to show up in the notification area. is that what
you mean when asking if it takes so long to get an
address?
-----Original Message-----
I wouldn't think so. What is taking so long, getting an address?

--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.


your assumption is correct.
my primary quandry is that it seems to take a while on
boot to recgonize the connection, sometimes up to a full
minute, and was thinking that might have something to do
with it taking so long.

thanks for the feedback.
Chris
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Netwo to
old network cards, and
confers no rights. warranties,
and the
same know.
if various
pci


.
 
While you are waiting for the icon to show you might try typing "sc queryex
netman" in a command prompt and post the results.

You probably have a network address and your LAN cards are probably working
by this point.

--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.


Chris said:
thanks Ken.
the process:
power on, post, boot dialog, splash screen, welcome
screen, loads desktop, starts loading systray (only run
antivirus, incd, a weather program in the systray) but at
this point it can take up to a minute for the network
icon to show up in the notification area. is that what
you mean when asking if it takes so long to get an
address?
-----Original Message-----
I wouldn't think so. What is taking so long, getting an address?

--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.


your assumption is correct.
my primary quandry is that it seems to take a while on
boot to recgonize the connection, sometimes up to a full
minute, and was thinking that might have something to do
with it taking so long.

thanks for the feedback.
Chris
-----Original Message-----
If it were me, I would just rename the LAN connection
and forget about it.

I assume that the stuff you found in the registry is
here:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Netwo
rk\{4D36E972-E325-1
1CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}

Don't delete that key.

It is probably safe to delete the subkeys that refer to
old network cards,
but probably not worth the bother.

--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights.


message
thanks for your reply Ken but i am still left with
my "local area connection" numbered at 22.
while all kinds of things showed in the device manager
that i had not seen there before, under network adaptor
all that showed was what should have showed, no
doubles,
no references to NICS that were not installed, just the
listing for my present card.

so far, Rob's suggestion to check the registry is the
only thing that has turned up any reference to
connections that are not there. so, i am still left
with
the question, should i just delete the key that refers
to a previous number, delete the other keys also in the
same dir, or just delete the dir that holds the key
with
the reference to a previous number?

-----Original Message-----
Don't edit the reg. Use the following plus "show
hidden
devices" to show
non-present devices.

Type the following commands at a command prompt

set DEVMGR_SHOW_NONPRESENT_DEVICES=1
devmgmt.msc


--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
and
confers no rights.


message
thanks Rob,
nothing showed in device manager after clicking
the "show
hidden" so i went to the registry.
in the registry i found referrences to the previous
numbers but there were also four other keys in the
same
dir that the referrences to the numbers were in.
should
i just delete the key that refers to a previous
number,
delete the other keys also in the same dir, or just
delete the dir that holds the key with the reference
to a
previous number?

thanks again for your help.
Chris
-----Original Message-----
You can try device manager. Click on View, show
hidden
devices. See what
shows up under network adapters. If that doesn't
work,
you might do a
registry search for the previous numbers and delete
the
references.

"Steve G" <[email protected]>
wrote
in
message
You can simply rename it like you were renaming a
word
document. Click on it 2 times (or until it
allows
you
to
edit the name).


-----Original Message-----
hi,
i am reposting this because it did not get a
responce.
if i am in the wrong place please let me know.
if
it
is
a none issues please let me know. if i am not
clear
in
my question or description please let me know.
i access the internet with a wireless setup
from my
house
to my ISP. i connect my computer to this
network
with a
10/100 nic card. over the last couple of
months i
have
had a few issues and in trouble shooting the
issues i
in/reinstalled several network cards in various
pci
slots
(only after much headache to have the isp
say "oops,
we
found a setting that needed to be changed on our
server". don't hate that?).
well, now when i go to start/setting/network
connections
my local area connection is numbered 22. i only
have
one
local area connection. i don't think it is
impacting
anything just a bothersome reminder. is there a
way i
can clear that number, (i don't mean just
renaming
it)?
i would remove the network components but it
isn't
as
straightforeward as it was in win98.
thanks for your help.
Chris

.



.



.



.


.
 
hey Ken,
what i experiences while trying what you suggested.
powerup, boot, desktop loads, go for start/run/cmd/enter.
the start menu would not scroll up until the network icon
showed in the systray: though the hourglass had
disappeared leftclicking on the start had no effect
untill the network icon showed.

this is what i got when i was able to do what you asked.
C:\Documents and Settings\Chris>sc queryex netman

SERVICE_NAME: netman
TYPE : 120 WIN32_SHARE_PROCESS
(interactive)
STATE : 4 RUNNING

(STOPPABLE,NOT_PAUSABLE,IGNORES_SHUTDOWN)
WIN32_EXIT_CODE : 0 (0x0)
SERVICE_EXIT_CODE : 0 (0x0)
CHECKPOINT : 0x0
WAIT_HINT : 0x0
PID : 904
FLAGS :

C:\Documents and Settings\Chris>

thanks for your help.
Chris
-----Original Message-----
While you are waiting for the icon to show you might try typing "sc queryex
netman" in a command prompt and post the results.

You probably have a network address and your LAN cards are probably working
by this point.

--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.


thanks Ken.
the process:
power on, post, boot dialog, splash screen, welcome
screen, loads desktop, starts loading systray (only run
antivirus, incd, a weather program in the systray) but at
this point it can take up to a minute for the network
icon to show up in the notification area. is that what
you mean when asking if it takes so long to get an
address?
-----Original Message-----
I wouldn't think so. What is taking so long, getting
an
address? and
confers no rights.
your assumption is correct.
my primary quandry is that it seems to take a while on
boot to recgonize the connection, sometimes up to a full
minute, and was thinking that might have something
to
do
with it taking so long.

thanks for the feedback.
Chris
-----Original Message-----
If it were me, I would just rename the LAN connection
and forget about it.

I assume that the stuff you found in the registry is
here:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Netwo
rk\{4D36E972-E325-1
1CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}

Don't delete that key.

It is probably safe to delete the subkeys that
refer
to
old network cards,
but probably not worth the bother.
warranties,
and
confers no rights.


message
thanks for your reply Ken but i am still left with
my "local area connection" numbered at 22.
while all kinds of things showed in the device manager
that i had not seen there before, under network adaptor
all that showed was what should have showed, no
doubles,
no references to NICS that were not installed,
just
the
listing for my present card.

so far, Rob's suggestion to check the registry is the
only thing that has turned up any reference to
connections that are not there. so, i am still left
with
the question, should i just delete the key that refers
to a previous number, delete the other keys also
in
the
same dir, or just delete the dir that holds the key
with
the reference to a previous number?

-----Original Message-----
Don't edit the reg. Use the following plus "show
hidden
devices" to show
non-present devices.

Type the following commands at a command prompt

set DEVMGR_SHOW_NONPRESENT_DEVICES=1
devmgmt.msc


--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
and
confers no rights.


message
thanks Rob,
nothing showed in device manager after clicking
the "show
hidden" so i went to the registry.
in the registry i found referrences to the previous
numbers but there were also four other keys in the
same
dir that the referrences to the numbers were in.
should
i just delete the key that refers to a previous
number,
delete the other keys also in the same dir, or just
delete the dir that holds the key with the reference
to a
previous number?

thanks again for your help.
Chris
-----Original Message-----
You can try device manager. Click on View, show
hidden
devices. See what
shows up under network adapters. If that doesn't
work,
you might do a
registry search for the previous numbers and delete
the
references.

"Steve G"
wrote
in
message
[email protected]...
You can simply rename it like you were renaming a
word
document. Click on it 2 times (or until it
allows
you
to
edit the name).


-----Original Message-----
hi,
i am reposting this because it did not get a
responce.
if i am in the wrong place please let me know.
if
it
is
a none issues please let me know. if i am not
clear
in
my question or description please let me know.
i access the internet with a wireless setup
from my
house
to my ISP. i connect my computer to this
network
with a
10/100 nic card. over the last couple of
months i
have
had a few issues and in trouble shooting the
issues i
in/reinstalled several network cards in various
pci
slots
(only after much headache to have the isp
say "oops,
we
found a setting that needed to be changed
on
our
server". don't hate that?).
well, now when i go to start/setting/network
connections
my local area connection is numbered 22.
i
only
have
one
local area connection. i don't think it is
impacting
anything just a bothersome reminder. is there a
way i
can clear that number, (i don't mean just
renaming
it)?
i would remove the network components but it
isn't
as
straightforeward as it was in win98.
thanks for your help.
Chris

.



.



.



.



.


.
 
Try this to get a command prompt during the delay: Press Ctrl-Shift-Esc to
get a Task Manager, select New Task from the File menu, and enter "cmd".

Then do the sc queryex netman thing.

--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.


hey Ken,
what i experiences while trying what you suggested.
powerup, boot, desktop loads, go for start/run/cmd/enter.
the start menu would not scroll up until the network icon
showed in the systray: though the hourglass had
disappeared leftclicking on the start had no effect
untill the network icon showed.

this is what i got when i was able to do what you asked.
C:\Documents and Settings\Chris>sc queryex netman

SERVICE_NAME: netman
TYPE : 120 WIN32_SHARE_PROCESS
(interactive)
STATE : 4 RUNNING

(STOPPABLE,NOT_PAUSABLE,IGNORES_SHUTDOWN)
WIN32_EXIT_CODE : 0 (0x0)
SERVICE_EXIT_CODE : 0 (0x0)
CHECKPOINT : 0x0
WAIT_HINT : 0x0
PID : 904
FLAGS :

C:\Documents and Settings\Chris>

thanks for your help.
Chris
-----Original Message-----
While you are waiting for the icon to show you might try typing "sc queryex
netman" in a command prompt and post the results.

You probably have a network address and your LAN cards are probably working
by this point.

--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.


thanks Ken.
the process:
power on, post, boot dialog, splash screen, welcome
screen, loads desktop, starts loading systray (only run
antivirus, incd, a weather program in the systray) but at
this point it can take up to a minute for the network
icon to show up in the notification area. is that what
you mean when asking if it takes so long to get an
address?
-----Original Message-----
I wouldn't think so. What is taking so long, getting an
address?

--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights.


message
your assumption is correct.
my primary quandry is that it seems to take a while on
boot to recgonize the connection, sometimes up to a
full
minute, and was thinking that might have something to
do
with it taking so long.

thanks for the feedback.
Chris
-----Original Message-----
If it were me, I would just rename the LAN connection
and forget about it.

I assume that the stuff you found in the registry is
here:


HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Netwo
rk\{4D36E972-E325-1
1CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}

Don't delete that key.

It is probably safe to delete the subkeys that refer
to
old network cards,
but probably not worth the bother.

--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
and
confers no rights.


message
thanks for your reply Ken but i am still left with
my "local area connection" numbered at 22.
while all kinds of things showed in the device
manager
that i had not seen there before, under network
adaptor
all that showed was what should have showed, no
doubles,
no references to NICS that were not installed, just
the
listing for my present card.

so far, Rob's suggestion to check the registry is
the
only thing that has turned up any reference to
connections that are not there. so, i am still left
with
the question, should i just delete the key that
refers
to a previous number, delete the other keys also in
the
same dir, or just delete the dir that holds the key
with
the reference to a previous number?

-----Original Message-----
Don't edit the reg. Use the following plus "show
hidden
devices" to show
non-present devices.

Type the following commands at a command prompt

set DEVMGR_SHOW_NONPRESENT_DEVICES=1
devmgmt.msc


--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no
warranties,
and
confers no rights.


"Chris" <[email protected]>
wrote in
message
thanks Rob,
nothing showed in device manager after clicking
the "show
hidden" so i went to the registry.
in the registry i found referrences to the
previous
numbers but there were also four other keys in
the
same
dir that the referrences to the numbers were in.
should
i just delete the key that refers to a previous
number,
delete the other keys also in the same dir, or
just
delete the dir that holds the key with the
reference
to a
previous number?

thanks again for your help.
Chris
-----Original Message-----
You can try device manager. Click on View, show
hidden
devices. See what
shows up under network adapters. If that
doesn't
work,
you might do a
registry search for the previous numbers and
delete
the
references.

"Steve G"
wrote
in
message
[email protected]...
You can simply rename it like you were
renaming a
word
document. Click on it 2 times (or until it
allows
you
to
edit the name).


-----Original Message-----
hi,
i am reposting this because it did not get a
responce.
if i am in the wrong place please let me
know.
if
it
is
a none issues please let me know. if i am
not
clear
in
my question or description please let me
know.
i access the internet with a wireless setup
from my
house
to my ISP. i connect my computer to this
network
with a
10/100 nic card. over the last couple of
months i
have
had a few issues and in trouble shooting the
issues i
in/reinstalled several network cards in
various
pci
slots
(only after much headache to have the isp
say "oops,
we
found a setting that needed to be changed on
our
server". don't hate that?).
well, now when i go to start/setting/network
connections
my local area connection is numbered 22. i
only
have
one
local area connection. i don't think it is
impacting
anything just a bothersome reminder. is
there a
way i
can clear that number, (i don't mean just
renaming
it)?
i would remove the network components but it
isn't
as
straightforeward as it was in win98.
thanks for your help.
Chris

.



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.



.


.
 
appreciate your patience Ken.

this is what i got with the Ctrl-Shift-Esc thingy.
C:\Documents and Settings\Chris>sc queryex netman

SERVICE_NAME: netman
TYPE : 120 WIN32_SHARE_PROCESS
(interactive)
STATE : 1 STOPPED

(NOT_STOPPABLE,NOT_PAUSABLE,IGNORES_SHUTDOWN)
WIN32_EXIT_CODE : 1077 (0x435)
SERVICE_EXIT_CODE : 0 (0x0)
CHECKPOINT : 0x0
WAIT_HINT : 0x0
PID : 0
FLAGS :

C:\Documents and Settings\Chris>
thanks,
Chris
-----Original Message-----
Try this to get a command prompt during the delay: Press Ctrl-Shift-Esc to
get a Task Manager, select New Task from the File menu, and enter "cmd".

Then do the sc queryex netman thing.

--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.


hey Ken,
what i experiences while trying what you suggested.
powerup, boot, desktop loads, go for start/run/cmd/enter.
the start menu would not scroll up until the network icon
showed in the systray: though the hourglass had
disappeared leftclicking on the start had no effect
untill the network icon showed.

this is what i got when i was able to do what you asked.
C:\Documents and Settings\Chris>sc queryex netman

SERVICE_NAME: netman
TYPE : 120 WIN32_SHARE_PROCESS
(interactive)
STATE : 4 RUNNING

(STOPPABLE,NOT_PAUSABLE,IGNORES_SHUTDOWN)
WIN32_EXIT_CODE : 0 (0x0)
SERVICE_EXIT_CODE : 0 (0x0)
CHECKPOINT : 0x0
WAIT_HINT : 0x0
PID : 904
FLAGS :

C:\Documents and Settings\Chris>

thanks for your help.
Chris
-----Original Message-----
While you are waiting for the icon to show you might
try
typing "sc queryex
netman" in a command prompt and post the results.

You probably have a network address and your LAN cards are probably working
by this point.
and
confers no rights.
thanks Ken.
the process:
power on, post, boot dialog, splash screen, welcome
screen, loads desktop, starts loading systray (only run
antivirus, incd, a weather program in the systray)
but
at
this point it can take up to a minute for the network
icon to show up in the notification area. is that what
you mean when asking if it takes so long to get an
address?
-----Original Message-----
I wouldn't think so. What is taking so long,
getting
an
warranties,
and
confers no rights.


message
your assumption is correct.
my primary quandry is that it seems to take a
while
on
boot to recgonize the connection, sometimes up to a
full
minute, and was thinking that might have
something
to
do
with it taking so long.

thanks for the feedback.
Chris
-----Original Message-----
If it were me, I would just rename the LAN connection
and forget about it.

I assume that the stuff you found in the
registry
is
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Netwo
rk\{4D36E972-E325-1
1CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}

Don't delete that key.

It is probably safe to delete the subkeys that refer
to
old network cards,
but probably not worth the bother.

--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
and
confers no rights.


message
thanks for your reply Ken but i am still left with
my "local area connection" numbered at 22.
while all kinds of things showed in the device
manager
that i had not seen there before, under network
adaptor
all that showed was what should have showed, no
doubles,
no references to NICS that were not installed, just
the
listing for my present card.

so far, Rob's suggestion to check the registry is
the
only thing that has turned up any reference to
connections that are not there. so, i am
still
left
with
the question, should i just delete the key that
refers
to a previous number, delete the other keys
also
in
the
same dir, or just delete the dir that holds
the
key
with
the reference to a previous number?

-----Original Message-----
Don't edit the reg. Use the following plus "show
hidden
devices" to show
non-present devices.

Type the following commands at a command prompt

set DEVMGR_SHOW_NONPRESENT_DEVICES=1
devmgmt.msc


--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no
warranties,
and
confers no rights.


"Chris" <[email protected]>
wrote in
message
[email protected]...
thanks Rob,
nothing showed in device manager after clicking
the "show
hidden" so i went to the registry.
in the registry i found referrences to the
previous
numbers but there were also four other keys in
the
same
dir that the referrences to the numbers
were
in.
should
i just delete the key that refers to a previous
number,
delete the other keys also in the same dir, or
just
delete the dir that holds the key with the
reference
to a
previous number?

thanks again for your help.
Chris
-----Original Message-----
You can try device manager. Click on
View,
show
hidden
devices. See what
shows up under network adapters. If that
doesn't
work,
you might do a
registry search for the previous numbers and
delete
the
references.

"Steve G"
[email protected]...
You can simply rename it like you were
renaming a
word
document. Click on it 2 times (or until it
allows
you
to
edit the name).


-----Original Message-----
hi,
i am reposting this because it did not get a
responce.
if i am in the wrong place please let me
know.
if
it
is
a none issues please let me know. if i am
not
clear
in
my question or description please let me
know.
i access the internet with a wireless setup
from my
house
to my ISP. i connect my computer to this
network
with a
10/100 nic card. over the last couple of
months i
have
had a few issues and in trouble
shooting
the
issues i
in/reinstalled several network cards in
various
pci
slots
(only after much headache to have the isp
say "oops,
we
found a setting that needed to be
changed
on
our
server". don't hate that?).
well, now when i go to start/setting/network
connections
my local area connection is numbered
22.
i
only
have
one
local area connection. i don't think
it
is
impacting
anything just a bothersome reminder. is
there a
way i
can clear that number, (i don't mean just
renaming
it)?
i would remove the network components
but
it
isn't
as
straightforeward as it was in win98.
thanks for your help.
Chris

.



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.



.



.


.
 
So the Network Connections Service hasn't been started and explorer trying
to add the icons to the notification area should have started it. My best
guess is that some other icon in the tray is blocking the process. What
else do you have in there?

--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.


Chris said:
appreciate your patience Ken.

this is what i got with the Ctrl-Shift-Esc thingy.
C:\Documents and Settings\Chris>sc queryex netman

SERVICE_NAME: netman
TYPE : 120 WIN32_SHARE_PROCESS
(interactive)
STATE : 1 STOPPED

(NOT_STOPPABLE,NOT_PAUSABLE,IGNORES_SHUTDOWN)
WIN32_EXIT_CODE : 1077 (0x435)
SERVICE_EXIT_CODE : 0 (0x0)
CHECKPOINT : 0x0
WAIT_HINT : 0x0
PID : 0
FLAGS :

C:\Documents and Settings\Chris>
thanks,
Chris
-----Original Message-----
Try this to get a command prompt during the delay: Press Ctrl-Shift-Esc to
get a Task Manager, select New Task from the File menu, and enter "cmd".

Then do the sc queryex netman thing.

--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.


hey Ken,
what i experiences while trying what you suggested.
powerup, boot, desktop loads, go for start/run/cmd/enter.
the start menu would not scroll up until the network icon
showed in the systray: though the hourglass had
disappeared leftclicking on the start had no effect
untill the network icon showed.

this is what i got when i was able to do what you asked.
C:\Documents and Settings\Chris>sc queryex netman

SERVICE_NAME: netman
TYPE : 120 WIN32_SHARE_PROCESS
(interactive)
STATE : 4 RUNNING

(STOPPABLE,NOT_PAUSABLE,IGNORES_SHUTDOWN)
WIN32_EXIT_CODE : 0 (0x0)
SERVICE_EXIT_CODE : 0 (0x0)
CHECKPOINT : 0x0
WAIT_HINT : 0x0
PID : 904
FLAGS :

C:\Documents and Settings\Chris>

thanks for your help.
Chris
-----Original Message-----
While you are waiting for the icon to show you might try
typing "sc queryex
netman" in a command prompt and post the results.

You probably have a network address and your LAN cards
are probably working
by this point.

--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights.


message
thanks Ken.
the process:
power on, post, boot dialog, splash screen, welcome
screen, loads desktop, starts loading systray (only run
antivirus, incd, a weather program in the systray) but
at
this point it can take up to a minute for the network
icon to show up in the notification area. is that what
you mean when asking if it takes so long to get an
address?
-----Original Message-----
I wouldn't think so. What is taking so long, getting
an
address?

--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
and
confers no rights.


message
your assumption is correct.
my primary quandry is that it seems to take a while
on
boot to recgonize the connection, sometimes up to a
full
minute, and was thinking that might have something
to
do
with it taking so long.

thanks for the feedback.
Chris
-----Original Message-----
If it were me, I would just rename the LAN
connection
and forget about it.

I assume that the stuff you found in the registry
is
here:



HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Netwo
rk\{4D36E972-E325-1
1CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}

Don't delete that key.

It is probably safe to delete the subkeys that
refer
to
old network cards,
but probably not worth the bother.

--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no
warranties,
and
confers no rights.


"Chris" <[email protected]>
wrote in
message
thanks for your reply Ken but i am still left
with
my "local area connection" numbered at 22.
while all kinds of things showed in the device
manager
that i had not seen there before, under network
adaptor
all that showed was what should have showed, no
doubles,
no references to NICS that were not installed,
just
the
listing for my present card.

so far, Rob's suggestion to check the registry is
the
only thing that has turned up any reference to
connections that are not there. so, i am still
left
with
the question, should i just delete the key that
refers
to a previous number, delete the other keys also
in
the
same dir, or just delete the dir that holds the
key
with
the reference to a previous number?

-----Original Message-----
Don't edit the reg. Use the following
plus "show
hidden
devices" to show
non-present devices.

Type the following commands at a command prompt

set DEVMGR_SHOW_NONPRESENT_DEVICES=1
devmgmt.msc


--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no
warranties,
and
confers no rights.


"Chris" <[email protected]>
wrote in
message
[email protected]...
thanks Rob,
nothing showed in device manager after
clicking
the "show
hidden" so i went to the registry.
in the registry i found referrences to the
previous
numbers but there were also four other keys in
the
same
dir that the referrences to the numbers were
in.
should
i just delete the key that refers to a
previous
number,
delete the other keys also in the same dir, or
just
delete the dir that holds the key with the
reference
to a
previous number?

thanks again for your help.
Chris
-----Original Message-----
You can try device manager. Click on View,
show
hidden
devices. See what
shows up under network adapters. If that
doesn't
work,
you might do a
registry search for the previous numbers and
delete
the
references.

"Steve G"
<[email protected]>
wrote
in
message
[email protected]...
You can simply rename it like you were
renaming a
word
document. Click on it 2 times (or until it
allows
you
to
edit the name).


-----Original Message-----
hi,
i am reposting this because it did not
get a
responce.
if i am in the wrong place please let me
know.
if
it
is
a none issues please let me know. if i am
not
clear
in
my question or description please let me
know.
i access the internet with a wireless
setup
from my
house
to my ISP. i connect my computer to this
network
with a
10/100 nic card. over the last couple of
months i
have
had a few issues and in trouble shooting
the
issues i
in/reinstalled several network cards in
various
pci
slots
(only after much headache to have the isp
say "oops,
we
found a setting that needed to be changed
on
our
server". don't hate that?).
well, now when i go to
start/setting/network
connections
my local area connection is numbered 22.
i
only
have
one
local area connection. i don't think it
is
impacting
anything just a bothersome reminder. is
there a
way i
can clear that number, (i don't mean just
renaming
it)?
i would remove the network components but
it
isn't
as
straightforeward as it was in win98.
thanks for your help.
Chris

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.



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wetsock, a weather monitoring program. InCD, nero's cd-
rw aplet. EXAV, etrusts antivirus.
of course the weather program tries to access the net for
an update the second it starts but i have noticed the
delay whether the weather program is installed or not.
the delay happens with or without InCD and the antivirus
installed.
i have noticed this same delay behavior on a couple other
machines i been playing with. they both have winxp.
have not played with this type of setup on a win98
machine yet.
-----Original Message-----
So the Network Connections Service hasn't been started and explorer trying
to add the icons to the notification area should have started it. My best
guess is that some other icon in the tray is blocking the process. What
else do you have in there?

--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.


Chris said:
appreciate your patience Ken.

this is what i got with the Ctrl-Shift-Esc thingy.
C:\Documents and Settings\Chris>sc queryex netman

SERVICE_NAME: netman
TYPE : 120 WIN32_SHARE_PROCESS
(interactive)
STATE : 1 STOPPED

(NOT_STOPPABLE,NOT_PAUSABLE,IGNORES_SHUTDOWN)
WIN32_EXIT_CODE : 1077 (0x435)
SERVICE_EXIT_CODE : 0 (0x0)
CHECKPOINT : 0x0
WAIT_HINT : 0x0
PID : 0
FLAGS :

C:\Documents and Settings\Chris>
thanks,
Chris
-----Original Message-----
Try this to get a command prompt during the delay: Press Ctrl-Shift-Esc to
get a Task Manager, select New Task from the File
menu,
and enter "cmd".
Then do the sc queryex netman thing.
and
confers no rights.
hey Ken,
what i experiences while trying what you suggested.
powerup, boot, desktop loads, go for start/run/cmd/enter.
the start menu would not scroll up until the network icon
showed in the systray: though the hourglass had
disappeared leftclicking on the start had no effect
untill the network icon showed.

this is what i got when i was able to do what you asked.
C:\Documents and Settings\Chris>sc queryex netman

SERVICE_NAME: netman
TYPE : 120 WIN32_SHARE_PROCESS
(interactive)
STATE : 4 RUNNING

(STOPPABLE,NOT_PAUSABLE,IGNORES_SHUTDOWN)
WIN32_EXIT_CODE : 0 (0x0)
SERVICE_EXIT_CODE : 0 (0x0)
CHECKPOINT : 0x0
WAIT_HINT : 0x0
PID : 904
FLAGS :

C:\Documents and Settings\Chris>

thanks for your help.
Chris
-----Original Message-----
While you are waiting for the icon to show you
might
try
typing "sc queryex
netman" in a command prompt and post the results.

You probably have a network address and your LAN cards
are probably working
by this point.
warranties,
and
confers no rights.


message
thanks Ken.
the process:
power on, post, boot dialog, splash screen, welcome
screen, loads desktop, starts loading systray
(only
run
antivirus, incd, a weather program in the
systray)
but
at
this point it can take up to a minute for the network
icon to show up in the notification area. is
that
what
you mean when asking if it takes so long to get an
address?
-----Original Message-----
I wouldn't think so. What is taking so long, getting
an
address?

--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
and
confers no rights.


message
your assumption is correct.
my primary quandry is that it seems to take a while
on
boot to recgonize the connection, sometimes up to a
full
minute, and was thinking that might have something
to
do
with it taking so long.

thanks for the feedback.
Chris
-----Original Message-----
If it were me, I would just rename the LAN
connection
and forget about it.

I assume that the stuff you found in the registry
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Netwo
rk\{4D36E972-E325-1
1CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}

Don't delete that key.

It is probably safe to delete the subkeys that
refer
to
old network cards,
but probably not worth the bother.

--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no
warranties,
and
confers no rights.


"Chris" <[email protected]>
wrote in
message
[email protected]...
thanks for your reply Ken but i am still left
with
my "local area connection" numbered at 22.
while all kinds of things showed in the device
manager
that i had not seen there before, under network
adaptor
all that showed was what should have
showed,
no
doubles,
no references to NICS that were not installed,
just
the
listing for my present card.

so far, Rob's suggestion to check the registry is
the
only thing that has turned up any reference to
connections that are not there. so, i am still
left
with
the question, should i just delete the key that
refers
to a previous number, delete the other keys also
in
the
same dir, or just delete the dir that holds the
key
with
the reference to a previous number?

-----Original Message-----
Don't edit the reg. Use the following
plus "show
hidden
devices" to show
non-present devices.

Type the following commands at a command prompt

set DEVMGR_SHOW_NONPRESENT_DEVICES=1
devmgmt.msc


--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no
warranties,
and
confers no rights.


"Chris"
wrote in
message
[email protected]...
thanks Rob,
nothing showed in device manager after
clicking
the "show
hidden" so i went to the registry.
in the registry i found referrences to the
previous
numbers but there were also four other keys in
the
same
dir that the referrences to the numbers were
in.
should
i just delete the key that refers to a
previous
number,
delete the other keys also in the same dir, or
just
delete the dir that holds the key with the
reference
to a
previous number?

thanks again for your help.
Chris
-----Original Message-----
You can try device manager. Click on View,
show
hidden
devices. See what
shows up under network adapters. If that
doesn't
work,
you might do a
registry search for the previous
numbers
and
delete
the
references.

"Steve G"
<[email protected]>
wrote
in
message
[email protected]...
You can simply rename it like you were
renaming a
word
document. Click on it 2 times (or until it
allows
you
to
edit the name).


-----Original Message-----
hi,
i am reposting this because it did not
get a
responce.
if i am in the wrong place please
let
me
know.
if
it
is
a none issues please let me know.
if
i am
not
clear
in
my question or description please
let
me
know.
i access the internet with a wireless
setup
from my
house
to my ISP. i connect my computer to this
network
with a
10/100 nic card. over the last
couple
of
months i
have
had a few issues and in trouble shooting
the
issues i
in/reinstalled several network cards in
various
pci
slots
(only after much headache to have
the
isp
say "oops,
we
found a setting that needed to be changed
on
our
server". don't hate that?).
well, now when i go to
start/setting/network
connections
my local area connection is numbered 22.
i
only
have
one
local area connection. i don't
think
it
is
impacting
anything just a bothersome reminder. is
there a
way i
can clear that number, (i don't mean just
renaming
it)?
i would remove the network
components
but
it
isn't
as
straightforeward as it was in win98.
thanks for your help.
Chris

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