LISENCE

[Timothy]

I have just installed XP on my Laptop computer. Can i
Install the same version on my Desktop computer also with
the samelisence without buying another copy?? I know you
used to be able to do this with the older OS 98/ME
TIM

 

[rifleman]

No you WEREN'T able to do this with previous versions and comply with the
EULA. It's just that now MS have a method of enforcement.
And to answer your question, no.

 

[Carey Frisch [MVP]]

Whenever you have a question regarding the Windows XP
End User License Agreement (EULA), its best to go ahead
and read the EULA itself.

Go to Start > Run and type: WINVER , and hit enter.

Your license to use Windows XP permits you to
install one copy of Windows XP on one computer.
A second installation of Windows XP, installed on
another computer, will require another license.

In order to successfully activate Windows XP for the second
installation, you'll need to purchase a second license (Product Key).
The Windows XP license agreement only permits one installation
of Windows XP on one computer with each Product Key.

Also, open XP's "Help and Support" and type: EULA
and click on "Questions and Answers about the
End-User License Agreement".

To purchase an additional Windows XP license, visit:

Additional Licenses for Windows XP Home Edition
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/home/howtobuy/addlic.asp

Additional licenses for Windows XP Professional
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/howtobuy/addlic.asp


P.S. The "retail version" of "Microsoft Office XP or 2003" does
permit installing a copy of Office on a desktop and a notebook
computer using the same Product Key. This is not the case with
the Windows XP operating system.


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Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User

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| I have just installed XP on my Laptop computer. Can i
| Install the same version on my Desktop computer also with
| the samelisence without buying another copy?? I know you
| used to be able to do this with the older OS 98/ME
| TIM

 

[Stuart]

"Whenever you have a question regarding the Windows XP
End User License Agreement (EULA), its best to go ahead
and read the EULA itself."

However human beings only have an average 70 years of life-span: you want
people to read it then cut out the crap.
EULAs are 99% bllcks and are designed that way to keep lawyers in work.

 

[kurttrail]

I have just installed XP on my Laptop computer. Can i
Install the same version on my Desktop computer also with
the samelisence without buying another copy?? I know you
used to be able to do this with the older OS 98/ME
TIM

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[Guest]

LOL........ totally agree. Install it as many times as you
can.

 

[Mike Brannigan [MSFT]]

I have just installed XP on my Laptop computer. Can i
Install the same version on my Desktop computer also with
the samelisence without buying another copy?? I know you
used to be able to do this with the older OS 98/ME

Timothy,

Regardless of the "advice" or links to the opinions of others you may have
seen in the replies to your post.
The situation is that in accordance with the End User License Agreement,
that you must agree to to complete the installation of the operating system.
You agree to abide by the licensing terms that clear state that you may not
install the same license on multiple machines.
Follow the advice of rifleman and Carey Frisch and have a read of the EULA
on your exiting machine.

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[kurttrail]

Timothy,

Regardless of the "advice" or links to the opinions of others you may
have seen in the replies to your post.
The situation is that in accordance with the End User License
Agreement, that you must agree to to complete the installation of the
operating system. You agree to abide by the licensing terms that
clear state that you may not install the same license on multiple
machines.
Follow the advice of rifleman and Carey Frisch and have a read of the
EULA on your exiting machine.

But of course Mike's words are conditional. "AS IF" MS has proven that
they have the right to know anything you do with the software you
legally purchased for use in the privacy of your own home.

Make up your own mind. Don't just listen to some self-interested
employee of a convicted predatory monopolist, and those that have kissed
MS ass enough to get a free MSDN subscription.

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[Mike Brannigan [MSFT]]

Of course, the poster does not need to take any "advice" from you or I.
They only need to read the License Agreement they agreed to be bound by when
they installed the product.

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[kurttrail]

Of course, the poster does not need to take any "advice" from you or
I. They only need to read the License Agreement they agreed to be
bound by when they installed the product.

Only if they believed those words are legally binding on anonymous
private individuals, and on top of that, there is nothing either immoral
or illegal about breaking terms of any agreement, in and of itself. In
the US, in order to legally enforce contract terms that have allegedly
been broken, it's up to your company to sue, and try to convince a judge
to enforce those terms. If MS has no right to know who even buys MS's
retail software, let alone who has agreed to MS's post-purchase
shrinkwrap license, then how the hell can MS sue anyone who has every
right to remain totally anonymous to MS?

It's a matter of logic, Mike, but keep on trying to FUD people into
believing that the words of a convicted predatory monopoly are
inviolable, while putting terms on your own words. "AS IS!" You aren't
even man enough to stand behind your own words without conditions!
ROFL!

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[Mike Brannigan [MSFT]]

They pressed the button that said they agreed to it.
There really isn't any issue for the person here. They read the text, and
said they agreed to it.

The "AS IS" is not about my convictions or beliefs but is a requirement from
my employer (whom I represent here) and their legal department.

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[kurttrail]

They pressed the button that said they agreed to it.
There really isn't any issue for the person here. They read the
text, and said they agreed to it.

An agreement where one party has every right to remain anonymous to the
other party can't be logically or legally enforced, as you can't sue
someone that you don't know even purchased the copy of software.

Logic sucks, doesn't it, Mike?

The "AS IS" is not about my convictions or beliefs but is a
requirement from my employer (whom I represent here) and their legal
department.

So your words are suspect, because of your obvious conflict of interest.
I only represent my own strongly-held and logically-developed beliefs,
and the only requirements on my words is my own conscience.

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[Mike Brannigan [MSFT]]

Kurt, The "logic" is that all your protestations count for nothing in light
of the fact the original poster had read the agreement and said they agree
to it. "Your" take on the EULA/enforcement or otherwise is not relevant.
The original party agreed to abide by the EULA and thus all the answers that
stated the results of that acceptance are the correct responses to the
original poster.

I have no conflict of interest on this matter or the EULA Kurt. You tried
this one before and as such I see no point in continuing this thread (no,
not because I am wrong or in conflict or have no more to say on the matter
etc etc etc, but because your opinions on this matter are well known and any
further discussion merely servers to lengthen an already unnecessarily long
thread). The original poster has been correctly answered by the initial
respondents.

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[Bruce Chambers]

Greetings --

Does your local department of motor vehicles allow you to drive
two cars on a single set of license plates? So why would you get the
idea that software manufacturers would sell their product licenses any
differently? In real life, it doesn't matter whether the product
being purchased is a physical item, a service, or a software license -
if all you buy is one, one is all you get.

As it has *always* been with *all* Microsoft operating systems,
it's necessary (to be in compliance with both the EULA and copyright
laws, if not technically) to purchase one WinXP license for each
computer on which it is installed. The only way in which WinXP
licensing differs from that of earlier versions of Windows is that
Microsoft has finally added a copy protection and anti-theft
mechanism, Product Activation, to prevent (or at least make more
difficult) the sort of multiple installations you're asking about.


Bruce Chambers

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[Bruce Chambers]

Greetings --

FYI, Mike, there's now a web-page seemingly devoted to Kurt. ;-}

http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame63.html

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[kurttrail]

Kurt, The "logic" is that all your protestations count for nothing
in light of the fact the original poster had read the agreement and
said they agree to it.

MicroPsychic to the rescue!

They pressed a button, whether they actually read and agreed to anything
is your unproven supposition. But even accepting the assumption that
terms were anonymously agreed to, that in no means validates whether
those terms are actually legally enforceable on private individuals by
court of law. When your company has the balls to put it's money where
it's mouth is, give me a call, but until then MS EULA usage terms are
nothing more than a boy crying wolf. Nobody with any sense believes it!
You can scream "One Computer," over & over again, till hell freezes
over, and it doesn't mean a damn thing to anyone but you!

"Your" take on the EULA/enforcement or
otherwise is not relevant. The original party agreed to abide by the
EULA and thus all the answers that stated the results of that
acceptance are the correct responses to the original poster.

So let it be written. So let it be done!

I believe that people have every right to come to their own decision
about who has the right to tell them what they can and cannot do in the
privacy of his own home. Your bought & paid for nonsense is what is
really irrelevant.

I have no conflict of interest on this matter or the EULA Kurt.

"The 'AS IS' is not about my convictions or beliefs but is a requirement
from
my employer (whom I represent here) and their legal department."

No, you have absolutely no conflict of interest as an admitted paid
representative of MS. LOL! Who do you really think you're fooling?
You are the very definition of conflict of interest! And your
protestations to the otherwise is totally out of touch with reality!

You
tried this one before and as such I see no point in continuing this
thread (no, not because I am wrong or in conflict or have no more to
say on the matter etc etc etc, but because your opinions on this
matter are well known and any further discussion merely servers to
lengthen an already unnecessarily long thread).

I have previously *advised* you that you should just ignore me to begin
with, as you really aren't up to the challenge, morally or
intellectually, and your FUD is totally transparent and unconvincing, as
you are admittedly restrained by the requirements of your
self-interested employer. It's your loss that you don't take heed of my
sage *advise*.

The original poster
has been correctly answered by the initial respondents.

So sayeth the paid representative of the convicted predatory monopolist!

Your declarations of what is correct or not is absolutely meaningless,
and total FUD, and the only people that can't see it are those sucking
up to get free MSDN subscriptions. People have every right to come to
their own decisions about what is correct for them in the privacy of
their own homes, no matter what any Microsoft employee proclaims as
correct.

Who the f*ck do you really think you are?

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[kurttrail]

Greetings --

FYI, Mike, there's now a web-page seemingly devoted to Kurt. ;-}

http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame63.html

http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame78.html Sounds like Brucey to me!

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[kurttrail]

Greetings --

Does your local department of motor vehicles allow you to drive
two cars on a single set of license plates? So why would you get the
idea that software manufacturers would sell their product licenses any
differently? In real life, it doesn't matter whether the product
being purchased is a physical item, a service, or a software license -
if all you buy is one, one is all you get.

As it has *always* been with *all* Microsoft operating systems,
it's necessary (to be in compliance with both the EULA and copyright
laws, if not technically) to purchase one WinXP license for each
computer on which it is installed. The only way in which WinXP
licensing differs from that of earlier versions of Windows is that
Microsoft has finally added a copy protection and anti-theft
mechanism, Product Activation, to prevent (or at least make more
difficult) the sort of multiple installations you're asking about.

And Bruce can't come up with on US copyright law that one would not be
in compliance with by installing XP on more than one computer.

Go on and ask him, he'll avoid responding directly, like it was the
effin' plague!

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[Alex Nichol]

I have just installed XP on my Laptop computer. Can i
Install the same version on my Desktop computer also with
the samelisence without buying another copy?? I know you
used to be able to do this with the older OS 98/ME

No - and not legitimately with earlier versions of Windows, either,
hence the activation system to stop people casually doing it. The
Desktop + laptop applies to retail versions of Office, but not Windows

 

[Ian Merrithew]

Does your local department of motor vehicles allow you to drive
two cars on a single set of license plates?

Flawed analogy. The department of motor vehicles is a body of the
government, who in turn have sovereignty to pass & enforce laws against
citizens to serve the public interest. A corporation is neither a
government body nor has sovereignty to pass or enforce laws (nor, in
general, will place the public interest over their shareholders
interests).

Better analogy: if a music CD came with a "end-listener license" that
stated the CD could only be listened to on a single audio device, would
that license be regarded as moral by the public or enforceable in a
court of law?