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MrToad
Boba said:
Try Knoppix 3.2
www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html
No need to partition if you just want to run it from the CD to try it out.
Later, you can do a hard drive install and end up with the Debian Linux
distro.
MrToad
Try Knoppix 3.2
www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html
No need to partition if you just want to run it from the CD to try it out.
Later, you can do a hard drive install and end up with the Debian Linux
distro.
MrToad
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Boba & Ilinka
For home use (E-mail, surf a net, spread shit, word processing) are there
any sense to switch to Linux?
What is good site to download Linux? On existing hard drive could I add
additional partition without erasing existing data?
Any comment welcome.
Boba Vancouver
any sense to switch to Linux?
What is good site to download Linux? On existing hard drive could I add
additional partition without erasing existing data?
Any comment welcome.
Boba Vancouver
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Stacey
MrToad said:
My thoughts exactly. If you need more or want to try something else (if you
see linux will do what you want) I'm a big fan of Mandrake for ease of use.
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Conor
OK for home use. If you've a legal copy of Windows on already though
there's not as strong a reason. My main reson for alot of people is the
lack of viruses for Linux. You can open an e-mail attachment that's
infected with any of the Windows viruses and nothing will happen.
You can add linux without destroying the data and the top 3 linux
distros (Redhat/SuSE/Mandrake) will do this during the installation
routine.
Try Knoppix or SuSE Live Eval CDs first. They've a basic linux install
with common apps on that run entirely off the CDROM.
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Adrian
Mandrake Soft allows you to download their 9.1 ISOs for free. I think
there are three ISOs and some smaller files to go with it.
~ Adrian ~
there are three ISOs and some smaller files to go with it.
~ Adrian ~
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Meta WinAPI
Windows is best for the desktop by far and away. Linux finds its niche on
drone machines serving up files and websites - and even there it is being
challenged by the introduction of Windows 2003 Server. So, it does not make
much sense to use it at home. Ands let's say you decide to run one of those
neat games? Then you have to buy emulation software for Linux and it only
unlikely *might* run.
The Linux guys would have you thinking that Linux is the OS Katmandu or
Shangri-la but on the desktop Linux is more like La La Land.
Meta
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| What is good site to download Linux? On existing hard drive could I add
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| Any comment welcome.
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drone machines serving up files and websites - and even there it is being
challenged by the introduction of Windows 2003 Server. So, it does not make
much sense to use it at home. Ands let's say you decide to run one of those
neat games? Then you have to buy emulation software for Linux and it only
unlikely *might* run.
The Linux guys would have you thinking that Linux is the OS Katmandu or
Shangri-la but on the desktop Linux is more like La La Land.
Meta
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| What is good site to download Linux? On existing hard drive could I add
| additional partition without erasing existing data?
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| Any comment welcome.
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| Boba Vancouver
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S.Heenan
Boba said:
Funny you should mention "spread shit" and Linux in the same sentence. Suse
Live Evaluation and Knoppix are two ways to evaluate Linux from a CD,
without installing it. I've has little success with newer distributions on
new hardware, but on slightly older hardware, you may have better success.
Mandrake and Red Hat are more popular versions and are more GUI based than
some others.
http://www.knoppix.org/
http://www.suse.com/index_us.html
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Stacey
Meta said:
For what? propagating viruses?
Interesting it looks like the newer games are starting to come ported for
both..
For me I'll NEVER have a windows machine conected to the internet and all I
use windows for anymore is video editing..
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Adrian
Windows is best for the desktop by far and away.
LOL!!! That's true, a Virus scanner isn't really needed on Linux.
Yes, I remember Quake 3 was out on Linux as well. Using the Mesa (?)
libraries, you can get hardware acceleration just like Windows.
Doesn't Mandrake 9.1 have a video editing package built in?
~ Adrian ~
For what? propagating viruses?
LOL!!! That's true, a Virus scanner isn't really needed on Linux.
Yes, I remember Quake 3 was out on Linux as well. Using the Mesa (?)
libraries, you can get hardware acceleration just like Windows.
Doesn't Mandrake 9.1 have a video editing package built in?
~ Adrian ~
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Meta WinAPI
Thanks for the repy Stacey. I'm not going to venture much further into the
OS wars. I like Windows and find it very convenient - I even have a soft
spot for it. Since 1996 when I first installed Windows, I've caught all of
one virus with Windows and only because I ignored warnings from Microsoft to
patch; now Windows downloads patches automatically.
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| > Windows is best for the desktop by far and away.
|
| For what? propagating viruses?
|
| > Ands let's say you decide to run one of
| > those neat games? Then you have to buy emulation software for Linux and
it
| > only unlikely *might* run.
| >
|
| Interesting it looks like the newer games are starting to come ported for
| both..
|
| For me I'll NEVER have a windows machine conected to the internet and all
I
| use windows for anymore is video editing..
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OS wars. I like Windows and find it very convenient - I even have a soft
spot for it. Since 1996 when I first installed Windows, I've caught all of
one virus with Windows and only because I ignored warnings from Microsoft to
patch; now Windows downloads patches automatically.
Meta
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| > Windows is best for the desktop by far and away.
|
| For what? propagating viruses?
|
| > Ands let's say you decide to run one of
| > those neat games? Then you have to buy emulation software for Linux and
it
| > only unlikely *might* run.
| >
|
| Interesting it looks like the newer games are starting to come ported for
| both..
|
| For me I'll NEVER have a windows machine conected to the internet and all
I
| use windows for anymore is video editing..
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Conor
@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>, (e-mail address removed)
says...
Except it isn't. Win2003 is trying to play catchup. Hell, even B Gates
admits Linux is no.2 threat to MS.
So, it does not make
There's been some top releases that have native Linux ports. Also Winex
runs alot of Windows games.
regurgitating shite.
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says...
Except it isn't. Win2003 is trying to play catchup. Hell, even B Gates
admits Linux is no.2 threat to MS.
So, it does not make
There's been some top releases that have native Linux ports. Also Winex
runs alot of Windows games.
Difference between me and you is that I've used it, you're just
regurgitating shite.
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Conor
@news02.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>, nameir@_deletethis_hotmail.com
says...
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Meta WinAPI
Oh. Wow. I'm floored. A top release makes it to Linux. IMO your post is
that of a Linux guy claiming Linux is OS Shangri-la. BTW Win2003 is
outselling Win2000 3 to 1 for their each respective first 90 days. Looks
another Windows success. My condolences on Mandrake's bankruptcy.
Meta
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| says...
| > Windows is best for the desktop by far and away. Linux finds its niche
on
| > drone machines serving up files and websites - and even there it is
being
| > challenged by the introduction of Windows 2003 Server.
|
| Except it isn't. Win2003 is trying to play catchup. Hell, even B Gates
| admits Linux is no.2 threat to MS.
|
| So, it does not make
| > much sense to use it at home. Ands let's say you decide to run one of
those
| > neat games? Then you have to buy emulation software for Linux and it
only
| > unlikely *might* run.
|
| There's been some top releases that have native Linux ports. Also Winex
| runs alot of Windows games.
| >
| > The Linux guys would have you thinking that Linux is the OS Katmandu or
| > Shangri-la but on the desktop Linux is more like La La Land.
| >
| Difference between me and you is that I've used it, you're just
| regurgitating shite.
|
|
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that of a Linux guy claiming Linux is OS Shangri-la. BTW Win2003 is
outselling Win2000 3 to 1 for their each respective first 90 days. Looks
another Windows success. My condolences on Mandrake's bankruptcy.
Meta
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| says...
| > Windows is best for the desktop by far and away. Linux finds its niche
on
| > drone machines serving up files and websites - and even there it is
being
| > challenged by the introduction of Windows 2003 Server.
|
| Except it isn't. Win2003 is trying to play catchup. Hell, even B Gates
| admits Linux is no.2 threat to MS.
|
| So, it does not make
| > much sense to use it at home. Ands let's say you decide to run one of
those
| > neat games? Then you have to buy emulation software for Linux and it
only
| > unlikely *might* run.
|
| There's been some top releases that have native Linux ports. Also Winex
| runs alot of Windows games.
| >
| > The Linux guys would have you thinking that Linux is the OS Katmandu or
| > Shangri-la but on the desktop Linux is more like La La Land.
| >
| Difference between me and you is that I've used it, you're just
| regurgitating shite.
|
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Conor
A top release? Try quite a few top releases.
And what does Win2003 outselling Win2k have to do with anything?
Mandrake isn't bankrupt.
As for me claiming Linux OS is Shangri-La, if you actually learned how
to use Shitehouse Express, you'd see I'm posting here using Microplanet
Gravity which is a WINDOWS newsclient.
Dumbass.
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Ralph Wade Phillips
Howdy!
Your logic is flawed.
By that logic GM cars of the early 70's were the best, as they
rusted on the showroom floor.
And McDonald's must make the best hamburgers.
No, Microsoft sells #1 because they have the best lawyers and sales
staff.
AND they've managed to kill most of their competition.
RwP
name?nameir said:
Your logic is flawed.
By that logic GM cars of the early 70's were the best, as they
rusted on the showroom floor.
And McDonald's must make the best hamburgers.
No, Microsoft sells #1 because they have the best lawyers and sales
staff.
AND they've managed to kill most of their competition.
RwP
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Meta WinAPI
Your post says it all.
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| > Oh. Wow. I'm floored. A top release makes it to Linux. IMO your post
is
| > that of a Linux guy claiming Linux is OS Shangri-la. BTW Win2003 is
| > outselling Win2000 3 to 1 for their each respective first 90 days. Looks
| > another Windows success. My condolences on Mandrake's bankruptcy.
| >
| A top release? Try quite a few top releases.
|
| And what does Win2003 outselling Win2k have to do with anything?
|
| Mandrake isn't bankrupt.
|
| As for me claiming Linux OS is Shangri-La, if you actually learned how
| to use Shitehouse Express, you'd see I'm posting here using Microplanet
| Gravity which is a WINDOWS newsclient.
|
| Dumbass.
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| (e-mail address removed) says...
| > Oh. Wow. I'm floored. A top release makes it to Linux. IMO your post
is
| > that of a Linux guy claiming Linux is OS Shangri-la. BTW Win2003 is
| > outselling Win2000 3 to 1 for their each respective first 90 days. Looks
| > another Windows success. My condolences on Mandrake's bankruptcy.
| >
| A top release? Try quite a few top releases.
|
| And what does Win2003 outselling Win2k have to do with anything?
|
| Mandrake isn't bankrupt.
|
| As for me claiming Linux OS is Shangri-La, if you actually learned how
| to use Shitehouse Express, you'd see I'm posting here using Microplanet
| Gravity which is a WINDOWS newsclient.
|
| Dumbass.
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Stacey
Meta said:
I'm really not into a "war" either and yes windows is "convenient". For me I
can't see paying $1000 for enough copies of XP for me and my family and
don't trust MS (or anyone) to download and upload info/software to and from
my systems.
J
John
Windows is the Virus. The built in Spyware always calls home to Redmond.
J
Jim Strand
Not a very accurate statement. Linux is an option, not an answer.
I'm not a programmer, only a computer hobbyist that enjoys assembling
his own computers. Linux offers me the option of installing a current
OS onto new machines without running afoul of license restrictions.
And these days with product activation codes being common, a
manufacturers enforcement of the EULA is far easier.
Perhaps the biggest "problem" for most is that Linux works differently
than the MS OS's users are more familiar with. Akin to learning a
foreign language. And like another language the more you use it the
more comfortable you become with it.
My primary system is Win XP. My backup system which is a near clone
of this one has both Win 98 and Mandrake 9.1 to choose from. I've
become comfortable enough with Linux as it is my default choice when
the boot loader comes up.
Bottom line for most; try it, you may like it.
With download being free, why not evaluate for yourself?
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Meta WinAPI
LOL 'Caught me!
Yes, you'd think they'd learn. Supposedly the bug catching scheme at
Microsoft is better than ever but, you know, until they design an
architeture where buffer overruns cannot happen ...
I *guess* that would take a multi-pronged approach .i.e.
a-language-compiler-and-system-architecture combination where buffer
overruns etc. just do not happen.
Meta
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| > Oh. Wow. I'm floored. A top release makes it to Linux. IMO your post
| > is that of a Linux guy claiming Linux is OS Shangri-la. BTW Win2003 is
| > outselling Win2000 3 to 1 for their each respective first 90 days. Looks
| > another Windows success. My condolences on Mandrake's bankruptcy.
| >
| > Meta
| >
|
|
| I thought you weren't interested in starting an OS war?
|
| MS servers have caused more damage to the internet than can EVER be
| described. Millions of dollars of problems and bandwidth has been wasted
by
| the viruses even their severs propagate. You'd think they'd learn how to
| make at least a server secure? I hope to GOD this trend doesn't continue.
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| Stacey
Yes, you'd think they'd learn. Supposedly the bug catching scheme at
Microsoft is better than ever but, you know, until they design an
architeture where buffer overruns cannot happen ...
I *guess* that would take a multi-pronged approach .i.e.
a-language-compiler-and-system-architecture combination where buffer
overruns etc. just do not happen.
Meta
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| Meta WinAPI wrote:
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| > Oh. Wow. I'm floored. A top release makes it to Linux. IMO your post
| > is that of a Linux guy claiming Linux is OS Shangri-la. BTW Win2003 is
| > outselling Win2000 3 to 1 for their each respective first 90 days. Looks
| > another Windows success. My condolences on Mandrake's bankruptcy.
| >
| > Meta
| >
|
|
| I thought you weren't interested in starting an OS war?
|
| MS servers have caused more damage to the internet than can EVER be
| described. Millions of dollars of problems and bandwidth has been wasted
by
| the viruses even their severs propagate. You'd think they'd learn how to
| make at least a server secure? I hope to GOD this trend doesn't continue.
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| Stacey