Linux/Ubuntu just can't cut it

[Bill Yanaire]

Hate to piss in your cornflakes guys, but Linux can never do anything more
than imitate real software, which is why it has never actually created
anything to date. Everything in Linux, from the kernel, to x, to raw data
transfer, is just an imitation of what a commercial company invented. Hell,
I like Linux, and have used it for three years (Suse, now Kubuntu) and am
all for it's existence, but you guys have to come to terms with how little
Linux has to offer most users and companies.

Remember last year when companies started to switch to open source software?
Well, they all gave up and went back to Windows. It's faster, stronger, and
more reliable. Vista is lightening fast, nearly flawless, and incredibly
easy to use. My computer, a basic $1000 notebook from Gateway, is now the
fastest most reliable machine I have ever used. On the Kubuntu partition, it's
just like my three year old Compaq. Reliable, but slow, glitchy, and
unreliable. If open source software had a future, people would be using
instead of paying hundreds for the real deal. Still, an imitation is just an
imitation.

 

[Ron]

the ignorance of the year awards goes the the stinky DORIS in the corner

please wear your protective suits and gas masks if you want to get close
enough to this disgusting hag to give her the award...

 

[Bill Yanaire]

the ignorance of the year awards goes the the stinky DORIS in the corner

Is DORIS the name of your genitals?

You probably drive a mini-van along with using Linux!!!!!

 

[Twayne]

Wow. An expert at nothing. Fantasstic.

 

[Buggs1a]

Hate to piss in your cornflakes guys, but Linux can never do anything more
than imitate real software, which is why it has never actually created
anything to date. Everything in Linux, from the kernel, to x, to raw data
transfer, is just an imitation of what a commercial company invented.
Hell, I like Linux, and have used it for three years (Suse, now Kubuntu)
and am all for it's existence, but you guys have to come to terms with how
little Linux has to offer most users and companies.

Remember last year when companies started to switch to open source
software? Well, they all gave up and went back to Windows. It's faster,
stronger, and more reliable. Vista is lightening fast, nearly flawless,
and incredibly easy to use. My computer, a basic $1000 notebook from
Gateway, is now the fastest most reliable machine I have ever used. On the
Kubuntu partition, it's just like my three year old Compaq. Reliable, but
slow, glitchy, and unreliable. If open source software had a future,
people would be using instead of paying hundreds for the real deal. Still,
an imitation is just an imitation.

Vista , fast? lol.

 

[Stephan Rose]

Hate to piss in your cornflakes guys, but Linux can never do anything
more than imitate real software, which is why it has never actually
created anything to date. Everything in Linux, from the kernel, to x, to
raw data transfer, is just an imitation of what a commercial company
invented. Hell, I like Linux, and have used it for three years (Suse,
now Kubuntu) and am all for it's existence, but you guys have to come to
terms with how little Linux has to offer most users and companies.

Remember last year when companies started to switch to open source
software? Well, they all gave up and went back to Windows. It's faster,
stronger, and more reliable. Vista is lightening fast, nearly flawless,
and incredibly easy to use. My computer, a basic $1000 notebook from
Gateway, is now the fastest most reliable machine I have ever used. On
the Kubuntu partition, it's just like my three year old Compaq.
Reliable, but slow, glitchy, and unreliable. If open source software had
a future, people would be using instead of paying hundreds for the real
deal. Still, an imitation is just an imitation.

Wait, "Reliable but slow, glitchy and unreliable"? Well what is it now?
Reliable or not?

That said, I use Ubuntu for professional work every single day and have
been doing so for over a year now without any difficulties.

Oh and one of my co-workers at the new office I'm working at is bringing
her computer in for me tomorrow to wipe windows off it and install
Ubuntu. She's tried out my Ubuntu system at work and absolutely loves it
and now wants the same at home.

It's definitely cutting it perfectly fine...

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[tjoy]

That said, I use Ubuntu for professional work every single day and have
been doing so for over a year now without any difficulties.

Oh and one of my co-workers at the new office I'm working at is bringing
her computer in for me tomorrow to wipe windows off it and install
Ubuntu. She's tried out my Ubuntu system at work and absolutely loves it
and now wants the same at home.

It's definitely cutting it perfectly fine...

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Stephan
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So, McDonalds is using Ubuntu?

WOW

 

[Stephan Rose]

So, McDonalds is using Ubuntu?

I have no idea if McDonalds is using Ubuntu, I haven't set foot inside a
McDonalds in over 5 years.


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[AlexB]

It is hard to believe your post is legit. I've seen quite a few imposters
here promoting their agendas, mostly of various criminal nature.

It is absolutely clear to any sensible user that amateurish open source will
never become more than a media darling or an enclave of marginalized.

Ubuntu will be dead in 10 year.

The future belongs to professional software because the demands on it appear
to grow every day.

When new hardware concepts come out that will be open source last day.
Hardware is being integrated with software. This process is only now
beginning to take off.

 

[the wharf rat]

It is absolutely clear to any sensible user that amateurish open source will
never become more than a media darling or an enclave of marginalized.

Lol. Don't forget to tell Google, SBC, Landesbank, DoD, and
all those other guys.

When new hardware concepts come out that will be open source last day.
Hardware is being integrated with software. This process is only now

Linux remains the platform of choice for embedded systems
development. How many home gateways (for example) do you see running
micro Windows kernels?

 

[AlexB]

You forgot to mention IBM and Sun Microsystems.

I am sure they all have a couple of Ubuntu machines in the anterooms for
reporters to see.

 

[Me]

Hate to piss in your cornflakes guys, but Linux can never do anything
more than imitate real software, which is why it has never actually
created anything to date. Everything in Linux, from the kernel, to x, to
raw data transfer, is just an imitation of what a commercial company
invented. Hell, I like Linux, and have used it for three years (Suse,
now Kubuntu) and am all for it's existence, but you guys have to come to
terms with how little Linux has to offer most users and companies.

Remember last year when companies started to switch to open source
software? Well, they all gave up and went back to Windows. It's faster,
stronger, and more reliable. Vista is lightening fast, nearly flawless,
and incredibly easy to use. My computer, a basic $1000 notebook from
Gateway, is now the fastest most reliable machine I have ever used. On
the Kubuntu partition, it's just like my three year old Compaq.
Reliable, but slow, glitchy, and unreliable. If open source software had
a future, people would be using instead of paying hundreds for the real
deal. Still, an imitation is just an imitation.

So then, if Linux can't cut it, is so buggy, and so slow, how do you
explain facts like these? (Top 500 SUPERCOMPUTERS):

Linux 381 76.20 % 3963141 6666103 826226
SuSE Linux Enterprise
Server 8 1 0.20 % 7215 10259 1776 MacOS X 2
0.40 % 28430 44816
5272 Solaris 2 0.40 % 15769 25313 3712 UNICOS 3
0.60 % 40511
48778 4762 Super-UX 2 0.40 % 44783 50176 5696 AIX
24 4.80 %
338218 424607 56866 Tru64 UNIX 1 0.20 % 13880 20480
8192 SuSE Linux
Enterprise Server 9 13 2.60 % 306289 437141 52744 UNICOS/
Linux 5
1.00 % 152162 182580 36436 CNK/SLES 9 23 4.60 % 1068244
1332833
468992 SUSE Linux 2 0.40 % 24197 28672 3584 Redhat Linux
4 0.80 %
41560 57801 6688 RedHat Enterprise 4 9 1.80 % 144814
243774 22820
Windows Compute Cluster Server 2003 6 1.20 % 47495 86797
12112
UNICOS/SUSE Linux 5 1.00 % 264983 321512 63937 SUSE Linux
Enterprise
Server 10 5 1.00 % 105792 122554 17528
SLES10 + SGI ProPack 5 11 2.20 % 304039 390455 39424 UNICOS/lc
1
0.20 % 54648 63437 11328 Totals 500 100% 6966169.82
10558086.75
1648095

Windows has a pathetic 6 machine share, (1.2%), and Mac an equally
pathetic 2 machine share, (.4%), while (No particular named flavor) Linux
has 381? Linux has a total share of 85.2% What part of "toy OS" does that
fall under?


Linux 426 85.20 % 4897046 7956758 970790
Windows 6 1.20 %
47495 86797 12112 Unix 30 6.00 % 408378 519178 73532 BSD
Based 2
0.40 % 44783 50176 5696 Mixed 34 6.80 % 1540037
1900361 580693 Mac
OS 2 0.40 % 28430 44816 5272 Totals 500 100%
6966169.82
10558086.75 1648095

(Source http://www.top500.org/stats/28/os/ )

I am not advocating one thing or another here. But Blow-hards on BOTH
sides need to provide stats backing up their claims. As with any OS out
there, "your results may vary." I have Vista and XP Home dual booted on
one of my machines, the better one of them all, and really, I rarely boot
to XP on there anymore. However, on a lil 'ol 900mhz, a meager 384mb of
mem, 40gig hd x2, 256mb nvidia card, machine, I dual boot XP Pro and
Ubuntu 7.10. I find myself rarely booting to XP on that (This) machine
anymore. The pro runs fine, but the Ubuntu with Compiz disabled, screams
in comparison. I choose to enable the Compiz, as the features greatly
speed up productivity. ...And Yeah, I like eye candy, so what? I have
Ubuntu installed in VirtualBox within Vista, and it performs dang near as
fast as Vista using less allocated memory. (No Compiz joy from within the
virtual machine)

I have used Vista for over a year now with no problems what-so-ever, and I
do like it. However, I also like the Ubuntu install on the 900mhz machine
at least as well. I have to agree that in some cases, Ubuntu can and is a
challenge to get up and running on some machines, while installing on
others poses no problems at all. I also have to agree that the look
initially is on the archaic side in some areas, but has nothing to do with
usability nor stability. If you don't like the looks, well then, it is
absolutely EASY to change the looks! There are hundreds of themes to
choose from. Enable Compiz, install Emerald theme manager and Ho Yeah, you
can go plain crazy. The best part is you can change your theme on the fly.
No install, uninstall, then install. Install all the different themes that
trip your trigger, and then swap 'em daily, hourly, heck by the minute if
you like. As for work, I get PLENTY done with both Vista and Ubuntu.

Vista was easy for me to get used to from the start. Yeah, there are some
differences between it and XP, but big deal, using logic and a very
little bit of exploring, I found out how stuff works, and where things
are in it. I surely wish it was more customizable that it is, but then
look at XP... Oh wait, I HAVE looked at it for too long! ..It was hard to
look at from the day I started it up. Once the bugs got worked out of it,
though it was a good OS for me. I like the look and feel of Vista, and
it's stability, for me anyway, is good. I don't like one OS over the
other. I like features in Vista, and features in Linux. So What? Each one
does different things I like and use. Why choose to hate one or the
other? use 'em both, get the best of both worlds and quit Bit****G.

Cheers

 

[AlexB]

Where did you get such pathetic spurious figures?

This is totally absurd.

Linux holds 0.56% of market share.

This figure is actually an artifact. You, gangsters, sell Ubuntu computers
to East Europeans who cannot afford real OS, and I mean Windows. At this
moment your cr*ap Ubuntu enters into the statistics. Then the purchaser rips
it off of his machine and installs a pirated version of Windows made in
China. The actual market share of Linux is probably a hundredth of that.

 

[NoStop]

Where did you get such pathetic spurious figures?

Need we remind you of the utter stupidity you showed with your eWeek
diatribe? Aren't you embarrassed enough yet?

Cheers.

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[AlexB]

You, NoStop appear to be impersonating a witch doctor. It is against the law
even in California.

 

[Frank]

AlexB wrote:



Need we remind you of the utter stupidity you showed with your eWeek
diatribe? Aren't you embarrassed enough yet?

Cheers.

Hahahah...don't make us all laugh...our sides hurt already from laughing
at the fool you are.
Are you really this numb and dumb?
Frank

 

[Frank]

You, NoStop appear to be impersonating a witch doctor. It is against the
law even in California.

He's Canadian beacon.

(e-mail address removed)

He is also violating a web rule by using a fake email address
([email protected]) that is a real domain that I seriously doubt is
registered to him.

See www.nospam.com

Frank

 

[Stephan Rose]

It is hard to believe your post is legit. I've seen quite a few
imposters here promoting their agendas, mostly of various criminal
nature.

Well, it is very legit. I have no reason to lie or make things up. I use
both Windows and Linux and currently for me, each has it's own place and
uses. Primarily it's Linux, but for a few things (games, 3D CAD/CAM) I
still keep windows around.

Honestly, I have no allegiance to any operating system. I don't care if I
use Windows, MacOS, Linux, <insert name here>. I care if it behaves the
way I want, lets me do the things I want and suits my needs. This used to
be Windows for many years, it is no longer.

It is absolutely clear to any sensible user that amateurish open source
will never become more than a media darling or an enclave of
marginalized.

Well "amateurish open source" sure as hell is doing a damn good job on
billions of embedded devices. It is doing an excellent job at paying my
bills. It is doing an excellent job at running our companies new database
and our new front-end designed by me.

It seems to be doing an excellent job for companies like Asus and it's
Eee PC.

I've evaluated both Linux and WinCE for an upcoming embedded design I'll
be working on. WinCE lost, linux won by more than a mile.

WinCE is clumsy to interface with from Windows, I don't have direct
access to the hardware (limited to the win32 api) and I cannot change /
add / modify drivers.

Linux on the other hand is well, linux. It's running almost the same
kernel (just a few months older really) than what's on my PC. I mean the
kernel scales well enough to where I can run it on a 300MHz ARM Processor
or a Quad Core Intel, pretty impressive if you ask me. This also means
that the enviroment is identical and things available to me on the PC are
available to me on the device. Such as NFS Networking which means I can
easily map my PC to a directory on the device and have very smooth access
between the PC and device. None of this clumsy Active Sync crap.

I have full access to all drivers and source. If I need to modify a
driver to suit our customized hardware, I can do so. If I need to write a
new driver for additional hardware we put on the board later I can do so.

Oh and I have far superior access to the hardware functions than I have
via the Win32 API with WinCE.

So yea, your so called "Professional software", AKA WinCE, sure is
looking "good" here...you couldn't pay me to use WinCE on an embedded
design.

Ubuntu will be dead in 10 year.

*shrug* if so, something else will take it's place.

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[Yeah-whatever]

Artifact? The stats are as of 11/2007. Google is your friend, just Google
"top supercomputer OS" and take a look. I said nothing about "market share."
Where did that come from? Again, I stated, "So then, if Linux can't cut it,
is so buggy, and so slow, how do you explain facts like these? -->(Top 500
SUPERCOMPUTERS)"<--

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Gangster? Did you even read my whole post? Comprehend it? I stated that I do
like and use Vista, and nowhere did I actually promote Ubuntu. Vista gets to
be installed on my flagship computer with different flavors of Linux running
in virtual machines. The actual install of Ubuntu is on a test machine, on
it's own hard drive. Hmmmm.. Which computer do you think I use most the
time? An old clunker, or the flagship? I push NOTHING, and as a matter of
fact, was a huge opponent of Linux, well until I decided I had better
actually at least USE it before putting it down. I have been using and
testing different flavors for two years now, and have changed my mind about
being an active opponent. BUT you don't see me here putting anyone down
simply because they like Vista, XP, ME, 98, Ubuntu, (Linux in general), or
whatever OS it might be, nor do you see me here promoting anything
what-so-ever.

Good Day

 

[Brian W]

Vista , fast? lol.

It is here, much faster than my old XP system. And try as I might, I can't
get the thing to crash either.