Liittle Vista Question

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Guest

As we all know the new awesome-incredible- amazing windows Vista (=Windows
NT6.1) is going to be shipped in two versions (as regards the CPU type)

One for 32bit and one for 64bit

The one for the 64 is going to be the same for AMD and Itnel Processors.
However, the new intel processor is not full x64, but only some instuction
sets are 64 bit. The others run at 32bit. So since the version will be the
same, only some intstructions of WindowsVista 64 are going to be 64bit (and
not the whole operating system) in order to be compatible with intel
processor (core 2 duo). So The new Vista are NOT going to take full advantage
of the Athlon64, as promissed.

Unless the new Vista have a different source code for each processor, but,
from my experience in XP, i dont think microsoft will bother...

In addition, since WindowsVista is based in NT4.0 (XP/home/pro are based on
it two), which is a 32bit os, are we still talking about full x64 support??
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-Windows: The OS we love to hate...

-Linux: The OS of computer scientologists, not computer scientists.
 
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emanon

kurkosdr said:
As we all know the new awesome-incredible- amazing windows Vista (=Windows
NT6.1) is going to be shipped in two versions (as regards the CPU type)

One for 32bit and one for 64bit

The one for the 64 is going to be the same for AMD and Itnel Processors.
However, the new intel processor is not full x64, but only some instuction
sets are 64 bit. The others run at 32bit. So since the version will be the
same, only some intstructions of WindowsVista 64 are going to be 64bit
(and
not the whole operating system) in order to be compatible with intel
processor (core 2 duo). So The new Vista are NOT going to take full
advantage
of the Athlon64, as promissed.

Unless the new Vista have a different source code for each processor, but,
from my experience in XP, i dont think microsoft will bother...

In addition, since WindowsVista is based in NT4.0 (XP/home/pro are based
on
it two), which is a 32bit os, are we still talking about full x64
support??

OS/2 Rules
Gates Drools
 
W

Winux P

: As we all know the new awesome-incredible- amazing windows Vista (=Windows
: NT6.1) is going to be shipped in two versions (as regards the CPU type)
:
: One for 32bit and one for 64bit
:
: The one for the 64 is going to be the same for AMD and Itnel Processors.
: However, the new intel processor is not full x64, but only some instuction
: sets are 64 bit. The others run at 32bit. So since the version will be the
: same, only some intstructions of WindowsVista 64 are going to be 64bit
(and
: not the whole operating system) in order to be compatible with intel
: processor (core 2 duo). So The new Vista are NOT going to take full
advantage
: of the Athlon64, as promissed.
:
: Unless the new Vista have a different source code for each processor, but,
: from my experience in XP, i dont think microsoft will bother...
:
: In addition, since WindowsVista is based in NT4.0 (XP/home/pro are based
on
: it two), which is a 32bit os, are we still talking about full x64
support??

MS has been cutting up Pista with an axe in order to meet the deadline for
release. The ambitious Operating System project has been getting slimmer and
slimer. What you have stated above is not suprising in light of this. The
latest proposed feature to get the chop (PC Authority, Aug 2006), is the
PC-to-PC Sync feature, allegedely enabling P2P over the internet. Again
this is another feature MS could not get working properly in Pista so it got
dropped.

WinFX is no longer either, it is now being pushed as .NET Framework 3.0.

: --
: -MS-DOS: Simply the best OS!
Well it never ever crahed for me.
:
: -Windows: The OS we love to hate...
The OS of sub-standard craftmanship that requires activation, it's an ironic
world.
:
: -Linux: The OS of computer scientologists, not computer scientists.
Other way round, Linux has gone to the hobbyist.

- Winux P
 
J

Jim

kurkosdr said:
As we all know the new awesome-incredible- amazing windows Vista (=Windows
NT6.1) is going to be shipped in two versions (as regards the CPU type)

One for 32bit and one for 64bit

The one for the 64 is going to be the same for AMD and Itnel Processors.
However, the new intel processor is not full x64, but only some instuction
sets are 64 bit. The others run at 32bit. So since the version will be the
same, only some intstructions of WindowsVista 64 are going to be 64bit
(and
not the whole operating system) in order to be compatible with intel
processor (core 2 duo). So The new Vista are NOT going to take full
advantage
of the Athlon64, as promissed.

Unless the new Vista have a different source code for each processor, but,
from my experience in XP, i dont think microsoft will bother...
Perhaps different source code. They will definitely need a compiler which
can generate either 32 bit or 64 bit code.
In addition, since WindowsVista is based in NT4.0 (XP/home/pro are based
on
it two), which is a 32bit os, are we still talking about full x64
support??
Why not? All that is needed is remove all of the assumptions about bit size
(no small task that!).
Need I remind you of the situation when DEC introduced the Alpha chip? For
that matter lots of unilities for VMS ran on the vAX-11/780 in compatibility
mode (PDP-11) untile V3.The best one ever built on a sand foundation
-Windows: The OS we love to hate...
It is just another OS. They all have their strange behaviors.
-Linux: The OS of computer scientologists, not computer scientists.
Jim
 

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