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paul s. betancourt

I have a notebook & a desktop & I have separate licenses
for each: Win XP Pro on the notebook & Win XP Home on the
desktop. I would like to know if there is any reason why
I can not use Win XP pro on both, using the version I
currently have, without having to buy another license.

Anyone!

Thankx!
 
According to the ms eula it is one license/copy per computer(for each os).
If you want xp pro on the other computer, to stay in compliance with the
eula, you need to buy another xp pro license. If you don't care about the
eula, then go for it. If the cd are oem and bios locked they may not
install. At worst you'll have to call ms and lie to them to get activated.
Also be careful with warranties. If these are oem computers, usually
changing the operating system voids the warranty and support from the oem.
You decide what you think is right to do.
 
paul s. betancourt said:
I have a notebook & a desktop & I have separate licenses
for each: Win XP Pro on the notebook & Win XP Home on the
desktop. I would like to know if there is any reason why
I can not use Win XP pro on both, using the version I
currently have, without having to buy another license.

Paul,

You may not use Windows XP Professional without purchasing an upgrade
license to upgrade the desktop Windows XP Home Edition to Windows XP
Professional.
The reason why is that they are not the same product and cost different
amounts of money. This is the same question as if I buy one copy can I use
it on a number of PCs. No. The End User License Agreement is very clear on
this matter. One copy/license for each device you install it to.

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paul said:
I have a notebook & a desktop & I have separate licenses
for each: Win XP Pro on the notebook & Win XP Home on the
desktop. I would like to know if there is any reason why
I can not use Win XP pro on both, using the version I
currently have, without having to buy another license.

Anyone!

Thankx!

http://microscum.com/mmpafaq/

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Kurt,

Your "parody" FAQ contains your own interpretation of the TITLE 17 CHAPTER
1 Sec. 117.
Which is with regard to the making a copy of a copyright work NOT the
installation of that software.

Please do not advise people to breach the EULA that they agree to, to
INSTALL the product.
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I don't want to get into copyright law here, as I have my own opinion of the
eula and its so called "contract" status(and it's close to kurts), but here
in the US we have the 1st amendment that gives Kurt the right to advise
people and to say whatever he wants. Screw the 1st admendment, but don't you
dare break that eula. Hmmmmm.......
 
Sorry for the typos --- should be 1st amendment.

purplehaz said:
I don't want to get into copyright law here, as I have my own opinion of the
eula and its so called "contract" status(and it's close to kurts), but here
in the US we have the 1st amendment that gives Kurt the right to advise
people and to say whatever he wants. Screw the 1st admendment, but don't you
dare break that eula. Hmmmmm.......
 
I am not going to get involved in this discussion - as it has been had many
times over already.
But your constitutional 1st Amendment rights do not give you the right to
say "anything" you wish.

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I'll just post this and we'll let it go cause we could go on forever about
this:
Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech,
or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to
petition the government for a redress of grievances.
MS cannot make a law, contract, eula, or anything that tries to stop someone
from advising people to breach the ms eula. No company, no matter how
powerful they are, cannot stop a person from saying what they want about the
eula and ms employees, imo, should not try to stop them either. You are free
to say/post to someone to stop posting this info, but you can't stop it, so
why waist the time.
 
I think the U.S. Supreme Court already had an opinion issued in regards to
the First Amendment. For example, you [cannot] yell "FIRE!" inside a
crowded theater.

On the other hand, "Piracy" of a license should be taken into context of
"Profits". For example, if Joe Doe would make 100 illegal copies of a
software, and he turns around and sells them at $10 each, that's piracy.

Second example, if Kathy Jones installs the software at home into three PC's
for her family (purely for educational purposes for her children) she's
clearly not making a profit. In further analysis, society benefits when her
children get educational training and enhance their skills when they grow
up, become smarter and more productive for society. They may even turn
around and work for Microsoft in the future to produce a better product
because they were well trained and have had exposure and experience with
such products.

Just a thought, seems there are so many in-fighting in the forum in regards
to "usage" of a product. By the way, if there's "no" monopoloy of an OS,
any company would be please to give free samples to the public to try their
products. After all, the internet user-interface web-browser, was developed
by innovation (but was "pirated" by Microsoft).

- - - -
 
Mike said:
Kurt,

Your "parody" FAQ contains your own interpretation of the TITLE 17
CHAPTER 1 Sec. 117.

Among other sections of US copyright law, and US court rulings.
Which is with regard to the making a copy of a copyright work NOT the
installation of that software.

Not according to the definition of "adaptation." The act of
installation adapts the software, that is on the distribution media, for
use with a particular computer.
Please do not advise people to breach the EULA that they agree to, to
INSTALL the product.

Please show everyone my exact words where I advise anyone to "breach the
EULA." My Multiple Activations FAQ gives factual information about MS's
activation policies, along with my opinion about the legal
enforceability of MS's Retail EULA on private individuals. I don't
believe I advise anything other than the self-evident, that the readers
of my FAQ should decide for themselves who is to be the judge in their
own home until your company gets the balls to prove that their
post-purchase Retail Usage terms are actually legally enforceable on
private, anonymous, non-commercial individuals.

You see, I don't believe that my words are the law, unlike ya'll at MS
think about the words of the EULA. But I've been though this before
with you, like when you had some of my posts pulled over a month ago.
It is really you that should stop advising people to buy more copies of
Retail software than they actually need, until MS proves the legality
and enforceability of it's post-purchase software-usage terms once and
for all, and barring that, you should then, at the very least, change
your sig for these type of threads:

"This posting is provided 'AS IF' MS's post-purchase Retail EULA usage
terms were actually proven to be legally enforceable on private,
anonymous, and non-commercial individuals."

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jack said:
I think the U.S. Supreme Court already had an opinion issued in
regards to the First Amendment. For example, you [cannot] yell
"FIRE!" inside a crowded theater.

They were wrong. ;-)

But I'm not yelling, "Fire," am I? I'm stating my opinions, and as far
as I know, Congress has yet to pass a law that prohibits my "free
exercise thereof."
On the other hand, "Piracy" of a license should be taken into context
of "Profits". For example, if Joe Doe would make 100 illegal copies
of a software, and he turns around and sells them at $10 each, that's
piracy.

I agree, and should be punished as a criminal.
Second example, if Kathy Jones installs the software at home into
three PC's for her family (purely for educational purposes for her
children) she's clearly not making a profit. In further analysis,
society benefits when her children get educational training and
enhance their skills when they grow up, become smarter and more
productive for society. They may even turn around and work for
Microsoft in the future to produce a better product because they were
well trained and have had exposure and experience with such products.

This example is in the spirit of what Supreme Court Justice Potter
Stewart wrote about the purpose of copyright:

"The limited scope of the copyright holder's statutory monopoly, like
the limited copyright duration required by the Constitution, reflects a
balance of competing claims upon the public interest: Creative work is
to be encouraged and rewarded, but private motivation must ultimately
serve the cause of promoting broad public availability of literature,
music, and the other arts. The immediate effect of our copyright law is
to secure a fair return for an 'author's' creative labor. But the
ultimate aim is, by this incentive, to stimulate artistic creativity for
the general public good. 'The sole interest of the United States and
the primary object in conferring the monopoly,' this Court has said,
'lie in the general benefits derived by the public from the labors of
authors' . . . . When technological change has rendered its literal
terms ambiguous, the Copyright Act must be construed in light of this
basic purpose." - http://laws.findlaw.com/us/422/151.html
Just a thought, seems there are so many in-fighting in the forum in
regards to "usage" of a product.

As long as those that sell those "products" want to try to control the
use of those products in the privacy of our homes, the "in-fighting"
over it will only get more vehement.
By the way, if there's "no"
monopoloy of an OS, any company would be please to give free samples
to the public to try their products. After all, the internet
user-interface web-browser, was developed by innovation (but was
"pirated" by Microsoft).

Yeah, MS has been found guilty of anti-trust violations in regards to
the browser, and patent infringement of their browser plug-in
technology, but not one US consumer has ever been found guilty of
anything for using software on more than one computer. Who is the real
"pirate" with $49 billion in liquid assets?

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Greetings --

And exactly how, pray tell, does Kathy Jones' teaching her
children to pirate software, renege on contracts, and lie to telephone
activation center personnel benefit society. All she's done is
created three more social parasites for those of us with integrity to
support - either by paying more for software or by having to support
those children when they eventually end up in jail, given the example
their mother is setting.

Bruce Chambers

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Greetings & Salutations --

And exactly how, pray tell, does teaching one's children the legal
concept of 'fair use' create "social parasites" out of them?

Grow Up, Bruce. Your childish FUD isn't even entertaining, and the only
people who believe it are your fellow MicroBrain-Dead and corporated
copyright owner funded organizations like the BSA, RIAA, and the MPAA
and their drones.

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paul said:
I have a notebook & a desktop & I have separate licenses
for each: Win XP Pro on the notebook & Win XP Home on the
desktop. I would like to know if there is any reason why
I can not use Win XP pro on both, using the version I
currently have, without having to buy another license.

Each of those licenses is for a single machine. You would need to get a
separate Pro Upgrade CD to upgrade the desktop machine. Or if that was
a retail XP home and hence transferable) , you could consider getting it
one of the cheaper OEM CDs (with a bit of hardware), which would not be
transferable, but would release the XP Home CD for use elsewhere -
instead of having to be retained to support the upgrade Pro license
 
jack d said:
I think the U.S. Supreme Court already had an opinion issued in regards to
the First Amendment. For example, you [cannot] yell "FIRE!" inside a
crowded theater.

True, but no one yelled fire. There's just an faq with info on activation
and copywrite info. It is his right to post this info on a website if he
wants.
 
Social parasites? So just because a mother can't afford the high price of
Windows XP means that she is now teaching her children to become social
parasites?
I don't condone software piracy, but just because someone uses their copy of
Windows XP on more than one computer does not make them the scum of the
earth. Get real here, your name calling should be reserved for murderers,
rapists and terrorists. Maybe we should get a handle on them before saying
software pirates are the scum of the earth.

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lack of caffeine.

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And exactly how, pray tell, does Kathy Jones' teaching her
children to pirate software, renege on contracts, and lie to telephone
activation center personnel benefit society. All she's done is
created three more social parasites for those of us with integrity to
support - either by paying more for software or by having to support
those children when they eventually end up in jail, given the example
their mother is setting.

Did you drop acid this morning or something? Usually your EULA-FUD posts
are rather benign, but this one's downright venomous. As members of a
shared household, the hypothetical Kathy's children have, more or less,
equal rights to fairly use copies of copyrighted works that are the
Kathy's property. I.e. Kathy doesn't need to buy separate copies of
DVDs, CDs, or books for each of her children. The open question is
whether making a second installation would qualify as a "fair use" under
US copyright law, thus beyond Microsoft's ability to control.

I'd love to see the "one computer - one copy" restriction ruled
unenforceable against private, noncommercial use just to see your
reaction, I must admit :).
 

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