License for 2nd drive in hard-drive-swappable machine

[Richard]

If I want to build a computer with a swappable hard-drive
bay, because I want 1 hard-drive for myself and a
completely separate one for my wife to put her stuff on,
do I need 2 licenses of Windows XP, in order to install it
on each drive? Because if the License for Windows XP
is "one license per machine", then my configuration is
still just for 1 machine.

 

[Nicholas]

Recent quote from Mike Brannigan [Microsoft]:

"No, you may only install the licensed copy once to one PC.
The use of removable drives is the same as dual boot setups with 2 disk
installed - it requires you to install to the machine twice - but it is a
different PC (due to the different hard drive) so it is a violation of the
EULA".


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Nicholas

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|
| If I want to build a computer with a swappable hard-drive
| bay, because I want 1 hard-drive for myself and a
| completely separate one for my wife to put her stuff on,
| do I need 2 licenses of Windows XP, in order to install it
| on each drive? Because if the License for Windows XP
| is "one license per machine", then my configuration is
| still just for 1 machine.
|

 

[Eric Warnke]

If I want to build a computer with a swappable hard-drive
bay, because I want 1 hard-drive for myself and a
completely separate one for my wife to put her stuff on,
do I need 2 licenses of Windows XP, in order to install it
on each drive? Because if the License for Windows XP
is "one license per machine", then my configuration is
still just for 1 machine.

Why have one drive per user when the user configurations under XP
are quite nice. It's really designed to allow for multiple
serial users. You can still store all of her documents and
settings on the other drive.

 

[Bob S]

True, Just copy the drive and give it to her. no big deal.
I ahave 4 drives I swap with my wife and kids.

 

[Willit]

Recent quote from Mike Brannigan [Microsoft]:

Technically, probably not since you are using it in a
different PC. It is not tied to the hardrive - but the PC
it is installed to first. (Yes there is a debate about
what actually constitutes the PC since you can
upgrade parts - but that is usually decided by the OEM.
If you purchased this OEM CD with something like a power
cord then you are in the grey area)

--
Regards,

Mike
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Mike Brannigan [Microsoft]

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no

Bruce

 

[Richard]

The reason is that she tends to download and install "free
software" off the internet, and I'm concerned with viruses,
and hidden programs being installed and running in the
background.

I also like to keep my start menu customized to have the
programs that I want, without seeing additional stuff she
might have installed.

I do admit I haven't used XP yet, (which is why I'm asking
this stuff), so I don't really know how good the
multi-serial-user support is, and whether it can already do
what I'm asking. Maybe there's doc you can point me to
that really spells this stuff out?

Thanks,
Richard

 

[Eric Warnke]

The reason is that she tends to download and install "free
software" off the internet, and I'm concerned with viruses,
and hidden programs being installed and running in the
background.

I also like to keep my start menu customized to have the
programs that I want, without seeing additional stuff she
might have installed.

I do admit I haven't used XP yet, (which is why I'm asking
this stuff), so I don't really know how good the
multi-serial-user support is, and whether it can already do
what I'm asking. Maybe there's doc you can point me to
that really spells this stuff out?

Thanks,
Richard

AdAware 6, SpyBot, and Notron AV are a nice combo to keep that
stuff off your system. XP will keep the process from harming
each other ( for the msot part ) most major applications work
perfect or good with the desktop sharing support too.

Just a though.

 

[Greg P Rozelle]

Or you could be nice a buy her, her own computer with xp.

Also, if you do- make sure and get a virus scanner for her computer as
well as adware. Educate her about viruses, spyware, adware, e.t.c.

This why I use ghost. If I try a freeware program and it turns out to
be adware. I just restore from backup.

Greg P Rozelle

True, Just copy the drive and give it to her. no big deal.
I ahave 4 drives I swap with my wife and kids.

Disclaimer
My advice is as-is. It could trash your system.

 

[Michael Stevens]

If I want to build a computer with a swappable hard-drive
bay, because I want 1 hard-drive for myself and a
completely separate one for my wife to put her stuff on,
do I need 2 licenses of Windows XP, in order to install it
on each drive? Because if the License for Windows XP
is "one license per machine", then my configuration is
still just for 1 machine.

To be in compliance with the EULA, you will need to have two license. The
reason being, when you install to another hard drive, XP must be remove from
the other install location. Activation will allow this kind of
configuration, but it is not allowed and if prompted for a phone call
activation, it would not be activated.
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(e-mail address removed)
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[Mike Brannigan [MSFT]]

Wilit - that quote is related to OEM licensing and not the general terms of
the EULA as regards multiple installs.
If you dual boot or use removable drives or virtual PC technologies (VMWare
or Virtual PC) you require a license for each and every install of the OS.
--
Regards,

Mike
--
Mike Brannigan [Microsoft]

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights

Please note I cannot respond to e-mailed questions, please use these
newsgroups

 

[John]

Richard, after spending 3 minutes figuring out which end of the pen to use,
wrote:

If I want to build a computer with a swappable hard-drive
bay, because I want 1 hard-drive for myself and a
completely separate one for my wife to put her stuff on,
do I need 2 licenses of Windows XP, in order to install it
on each drive? Because if the License for Windows XP
is "one license per machine", then my configuration is
still just for 1 machine.

Pretty ridiculous isn't it, that the answers you got telling you you have to
spend another $150 just to be able to have XPee on *ONE* system.
But you don't have to spend any more money, and you don't have to listen to
*anyone* about what you can or can't do in your own home with your own
computer, including me, since XPee's spEULA isn't a 'law'. Just follow the
bottom link on my sig below.

John

 

[John]

Greg P Rozelle, after spending 3 minutes figuring out which end of the pen to

I hate to correct you. Their are laws you do have to follow in your
own home. You can not set your house on fire. I would give more
examples but this is a G-rated group

Greg P Rozelle

If you need help trying to figure out the whole point of the post, just feel
around the top of your head...there's no way you'd miss it then.

John

 

[John]

Nicholas, after spending 3 minutes figuring out which end of the pen to use,
wrote:

Which, by the way, is 100% bogus!

Says you, just another 'nobody' on the internet, just like the rest of us, so
your word is no better or worse than mine or anyone elses.

John

 

[Greg P Rozelle]

John

I know what the original post is about.


My proof
Part of the xp eula
you may install, use, access, display and run only one (1) copy of the
SOFTWARE on the COMPUTER.

But you don't have to spend any more money, and
you don't have to listen to *anyone* about what you can or
can't do in your own home with your own computer,

You still have to follow laws.
Music industry is proving that right know by cracking down on file
sharing. Their are other laws you have to following when using the
computer. But I will not mention that here. This is a g-rated group.

Now, if you don't believe me, check with a lawyer.

Greg Rozelle

One think I do know
Is you are allowed to repair and upgrade oem systems.

He just needs to buy her another computer. They don't cost that much
anymore.

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Disclaimer
My advice is as-is. It could trash your system.

 

[Greg P Rozelle]

The difference it is bootable. Backups are usually not-until you
restore them.

If your taking about to different license for each xp, than it is ok
to do that. But taking in and out the swappable hard drive, may cause
problems with activation part of both XP.


To show you I not always pro-Microsoft.
In the xp eula, It says you can basically can get on the internet
with xp. I don't need Microsoft's permission to get on the internet.

I do not like the activation scheme. I think we should have home
volume license that does not require activation. Ms can enforce it in
a similar way they do today. This way they won't have to come up
with several activation patches at the end of each products lifecycle.

If they also lowered the price of the operating system to an
affordable level-- they would not have to worry about piracy. They
would sell a lot more.



Greg P Rozelle

But you're allowed a backup. How is this any different from a backup,
as long as only one is ever booted at a time?

--
"Yeah man, I tell ya what, man. That dang ol'
Internet, man. You just go on there and point
and click. Talk about W-W-dot-W-com. An' lotsa
nekkid chicks on there, man. Click. Click. Click.
Click. Click. It's real easy, man."
- Boomhauer, "King Of The Hill"

Disclaimer
My advice is as-is. It could trash your system.

 

[Greg P Rozelle]

Sunspot
If your tallking to me,

Threads get mingled together. Read correctly
For the record I do not believe kurttraill web site.

I think kurttrail website is real gross and sick.

I am surprised Microsoft had not sued him for defamation of character.
And copyright violations. (copying thier blue webpage layout and
their menus)

Plus, I am surprised Microsoft allows him to post in these Microsoft
newgroups.


Greg P Rozelle

Disclaimer
My advice is as-is. It could trash your system.

 

[SunSpot]

Greg,
I was talking to John.
I agree with your posts completely.

 

[Frank]

I really didn't follow the complete thread here, but it seems that someone
is claiming that a computer which runs as a raid level one system is
violating the MS XP EULA since they have two copies of the same OS on two
different hard drives. Therefore I would think that having a swappable Hard
Drive which is swapped on the same computer is not violating any EULA.
Otherwise all Level 1 Raid systems are illegally using MS XP OS.

Frank

 

[EGMcCann]

"You may make a single backup copy of the software." Right in the EULA.
Guess that'd cover the RAID situation - though I don't think MS would worry
about a RAID setup, as it's still only being used in one system.

 

[SunSpot]

Frank, a raid setup had nothing to do with the thread.
No one was claiming it violated the EULA.
You need to read the whole thread from the start.