Licencing problem

[Guest]

The end user license agreement (EULA) is granted to the end user by the PC
MANUFACTURER and relates to the license on the PC with which it was
originally distributed. Because the PC MANUFACTURER is required to support
the license on that original PC, a PC MANUFACTURER can not support a license
that has been moved from a PC they manufactured to one that they did not.
This is one of the key reasons why an OEM license can’t be transferred. To
put it simply, OEM software is tied to the original computer system on which
it was installed.

 

[Alias]

The end user license agreement (EULA) is granted to the end user by the PC
MANUFACTURER and relates to the license on the PC with which it was
originally distributed. Because the PC MANUFACTURER is required to support
the license on that original PC, a PC MANUFACTURER can not support a license
that has been moved from a PC they manufactured to one that they did not.
This is one of the key reasons why an OEM license can’t be transferred. To
put it simply, OEM software is tied to the original computer system on which
it was installed.

Thanks for your unneeded and oft repeated lesson on morality, ethics and
law. Now, it can be done technically, yes?

Alias

 

[Carey Frisch [MVP]]

NO! Technically, you can place your PC in a dishwasher
to clean it, but it won't work afterward!

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[Alias]

NO! Technically, you can place your PC in a dishwasher
to clean it, but it won't work afterward!

Sorry I asked. Let the readership be the judge.

Alias

 

[Shenan Stanley]

In the end - it comes down to phrasing/symantecs, really. I remember
getting this lesson in school, at home, etc.

The OP asked "Can" they do something. Some people replying as if they asked
"May" they do something.

It may come down to morals, legalities, etc.. That's what makes it so
weird.

Consider that if someone asked in Texas, USA, "Can I marry more than one
person without divorcing another (and all parties are alive)?" - it would be
a, "Sure - you can - but it is against the law." If they asked (in Texas,
USA still), "May I..." - the answer would no "No - it is against the law."
However - if they ask the same question in Utah, USA, either one (Can or
May) has an answer of, "Sure, go for it." Are their people in both states
that believe it is morally right/wrong to do so? Probably, but despite all
those peoples beliefs (or perhaps because of them) - the laws in each area
differ.

Now I know someone will probably come back with, "The EULA is a contract
that is explicit about what it says - your example holds no water as it is
more of a personal/religious example." --> Well I have arguments about how
explicit it is... But despite those - I would bet there are other examples
of where theft/murder/contract law, etc are acceptable in some places for
some reasons that would be more adaptable to this subjet - but like any good
example - you stick with what you know. *grin*

Different beliefs, different laws, different morals, different traditions,
etc. The straight answer was given already in this thread. I'm not going
to say it is technically impossible - because that would be a lie.

So which is better?

- To not tell the truth/avoid the question and support your moral believes
on this one subject?
- To tell the truth completely - including your believes on this subject if
you desire?

Again - depends on the person and how they decide to react/believe. Free
Will. It's fun.

 

[Bruce Chambers]

Ok here is a different one.

I have a OEM version of XP home, full install disc that came with my
computer. I got a full version XP PRO and installed it on the computer,
legal licence etc. Someone just gave me a laptop with ME on it.

Can I use the licence on the XP Home disc in order to install it on the
laptop?

No, not legitimately. By your own admission, you have an OEM license
for WinXP Home. An OEM version must be sold with a non-peripheral piece
of hardware (normally a motherboard or hard rive, if not an entire PC)
and is _permanently_ bound to the first PC on which it's installed. An
OEM license, once installed, is not legitimately transferable to another
computer under _any_ circumstances.



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safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin

Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of
chains and slavery? .... I know not what course others may take, but as
for me, give me liberty, or give me death! -Patrick Henry

 

[Bruce Chambers]

so what part of the laptop is it 'attached' to, what if we put the hard
drive in a different laptop, is it ok to us it?

It's attached to the entire laptop, not any one component thereof. The
OEM EULA makes this clear.

or do we have to go buy
annother copy?

Yes, if you want to replace WinMe with WinXP, you'll need to buy
another WinXP license. Or you could remove the retail WinXP Pro from
the computer and transfer it to the laptop, returning the computer to
its original OEM installation of WinXP Home.



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They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin

Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of
chains and slavery? .... I know not what course others may take, but as
for me, give me liberty, or give me death! -Patrick Henry