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Ok here is a different one.

I have a OEM version of XP home, full install disc that came with my
computer. I got a full version XP PRO and installed it on the computer,
legal licence etc. Someone just gave me a laptop with ME on it.

Can I use the licence on the XP Home disc in order to install it on the
laptop?
 
No. OEM versions of Windows XP are non-transferrable
to a different computer. Only "Retail Versions" may be
transferred.
 
irlowe said:
Ok here is a different one.

I have a OEM version of XP home, full install disc that came with my
computer. I got a full version XP PRO and installed it on the
computer, legal licence etc. Someone just gave me a laptop with ME
on it.

Can I use the licence on the XP Home disc in order to install it on
the laptop?
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Has the OEM XP Home ever been installed on a computer. If it has then
according to the EULA it shouldn't be installed on another computer. If you
are merely wanting to know if it can be done then it depends on what type of
OEM version it is. If it is a generic OEM you could install it on the
laptop.

Kerry
 
irlowe said:
Ok here is a different one.

I have a OEM version of XP home, full install disc that came with my
computer. I got a full version XP PRO and installed it on the
computer, legal licence etc. Someone just gave me a laptop with ME
on it.

Can I use the licence on the XP Home disc in order to install it on
the laptop?
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Not really different at all. Same as dozens of questions I have seen.

Short answer - not according to the EULA. No.

You have an OEM Installation that CAME WITH a laptop. It was initially
installed on said laptop. It is permanently attached to that laptop even if
that laptop gets blown up to a billion little bits and - miraculously - the
CD and the CD Key survives.. In at least the restrictive language of the
EULA. Doesn't matter what else you put on the laptop. Doesn't matter if
you replaced the OS with *nix/MacOSx/Windows XP Professional. That laptop
came with an OEM copy of Windows XP Home installed and its CD for
reinstallation on that laptop. That's the restriction (according to the
wording of the OEM EULA) of the OEM copy.. First machine it is installed
on - it is permanently attached to and cannot be transferred.
 
Shenan Stanley said:
Not really different at all. Same as dozens of questions I have seen.

Short answer - not according to the EULA. No.

You have an OEM Installation that CAME WITH a laptop. It was initially
installed on said laptop. It is permanently attached to that laptop even
if that laptop gets blown up to a billion little bits and - miraculously -
the CD and the CD Key survives.. In at least the restrictive language of
the EULA. Doesn't matter what else you put on the laptop. Doesn't matter
if you replaced the OS with *nix/MacOSx/Windows XP Professional. That
laptop came with an OEM copy of Windows XP Home installed and its CD for
reinstallation on that laptop. That's the restriction (according to the
wording of the OEM EULA) of the OEM copy.. First machine it is installed
on - it is permanently attached to and cannot be transferred.
Click to expand...

so what part of the laptop is it 'attached' to, what if we put the hard
drive in a different laptop, is it ok to us it? or do we have to go buy
annother copy?

roy
 
irlowe said:
Ok here is a different one.

I have a OEM version of XP home, full install disc that came with
my computer. I got a full version XP PRO and installed it on the
computer, legal licence etc. Someone just gave me a laptop with
ME on it.

Can I use the licence on the XP Home disc in order to install it
Not really different at all. Same as dozens of questions I have
seen.
Short answer - not according to the EULA. No.

You have an OEM Installation that CAME WITH a laptop. It was
initially installed on said laptop. It is permanently attached to
that laptop even if that laptop gets blown up to a billion little
bits and - miraculously - the CD and the CD Key survives.. In at
least the restrictive language of the EULA. Doesn't matter what
else you put on the laptop. Doesn't matter if you replaced the OS
with *nix/MacOSx/Windows XP Professional. That laptop came with
an OEM copy of Windows XP Home installed and its CD for
reinstallation on that laptop. That's the restriction (according
to the wording of the OEM EULA) of the OEM copy.. First machine it
is installed on - it is permanently attached to and cannot be
transferred.
Click to expand...
so what part of the laptop is it 'attached' to, what if we put the
hard drive in a different laptop, is it ok to us it? or do we have
to go buy annother copy?
Click to expand...

There inlies the gray area.
Notice how I never say it is not technically possible?
I choose my words carefully.

I have read - I think on these newsgroups - that someone had found that the
OEM was attached to the motherboard.
I cannot/will not bother to confirm or deny that - as I probably could not.
Click to expand...
 
irlowe said:
Ok here is a different one.

I have a OEM version of XP home, full install disc that came with
my computer. I got a full version XP PRO and installed it on the
computer, legal licence etc. Someone just gave me a laptop with
ME on it.

Can I use the licence on the XP Home disc in order to install it
Not really different at all. Same as dozens of questions I have
seen.
Short answer - not according to the EULA. No.

You have an OEM Installation that CAME WITH a laptop. It was
initially installed on said laptop. It is permanently attached to
that laptop even if that laptop gets blown up to a billion little
bits and - miraculously - the CD and the CD Key survives.. In at
least the restrictive language of the EULA. Doesn't matter what
else you put on the laptop. Doesn't matter if you replaced the OS
with *nix/MacOSx/Windows XP Professional. That laptop came with
an OEM copy of Windows XP Home installed and its CD for
reinstallation on that laptop. That's the restriction (according
to the wording of the OEM EULA) of the OEM copy.. First machine it
is installed on - it is permanently attached to and cannot be
transferred.
Click to expand...
so what part of the laptop is it 'attached' to, what if we put the
hard drive in a different laptop, is it ok to us it? or do we have
to go buy annother copy?
Click to expand...

Shenan said:
There inlies the gray area.
Notice how I never say it is not technically possible?
I choose my words carefully.

I have read - I think on these newsgroups - that someone had found
that the OEM was attached to the motherboard.
I cannot/will not bother to confirm or deny that - as I probably
could not.
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Before you ask - yes - the connection ('attachment') is usually virtual.

Sure - there are "BIOS Locked" CDs out there - but it's still a virtual
attachment - being one of agreement rather than physical attachment inthe
end.

What's technically possible and what one agrees to do are usually two very
different things.
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Shenan said:
irlowe said:
Ok here is a different one.

I have a OEM version of XP home, full install disc that came with
my computer. I got a full version XP PRO and installed it on the
computer, legal licence etc. Someone just gave me a laptop with
ME on it.

Can I use the licence on the XP Home disc in order to install it





There inlies the gray area.
Notice how I never say it is not technically possible?
I choose my words carefully.

I have read - I think on these newsgroups - that someone had found that the
OEM was attached to the motherboard.
I cannot/will not bother to confirm or deny that - as I probably could not.
Click to expand...

Not really a gray area but quite murky waters where the
discretion for defining to what the OEM OS version has been
attached is left to the builder. Since the builder is not
going to support anything other than what it had built and
is warranting (for obvious reasons of liability), it is de
facto that the OEM installation is linked to the computer
system that was sold to the user.
Click to expand...
 
Ok the question was can I ? Not is it legal according to the EULA or what
version OEM it is.
I mean will I physically be able to install the home version and still get
updates? It has service pack one already and is the 2002 version.
If Bill G has a problem with me attaching a version of the program that I
paid for and no longer use he can take me to court!
 
irlowe said:
Ok the question was can I ? Not is it legal according to the EULA
or what version OEM it is.

I mean will I physically be able to install the home version and
still get updates? It has service pack one already and is the 2002
version.

If Bill G has a problem with me attaching a version of the program
that I paid for and no longer use he can take me to court!
Click to expand...

Try it - find out.

You asked - we answered and in a way that you should not even have to ask
this question again - if you read the responses.
 
Royc said:
so what part of the laptop is it 'attached' to, what if we put the hard
drive in a different laptop, is it ok to us it? or do we have to go buy
annother copy?
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The short answer is YES. You have to buy another copy.

OEM products are intended to be preinstalled on hardware before the end
user purchases the product. They are "shrink wrapped" and do not come
in a box like the retail products do. Full-Packaged Product (FPP) is
boxed with CD(s), manuals, and the EULA and is sold in retail stores in
individual boxes. The End User License Agreements (commonly referred to
as "EULAs") for OEM and FPP products are slightly different. One main
difference is that an OEM operating system license (such as the license
for Windows) cannot be transferred from its original PC to another PC.
However, the FPP version of Windows may be transferred to another PC as
long as the EULA, manual and media (such as the backup CD) accompany the
transfer to the other PC. Also, when a customer purchases an OEM
product, the OEM license requires the OEM to provide support for the
product.


hth
 
irlowe said:
Ok the question was can I ? Not is it legal according to the EULA or what
version OEM it is.
I mean will I physically be able to install the home version and still get
updates? It has service pack one already and is the 2002 version.
If Bill G has a problem with me attaching a version of the program that I
paid for and no longer use he can take me to court!
Click to expand...


Actually, he doesn't have to take you to court. He will simply stop
giving you updates and put your system at the mercy of hackers, spyware
and virus writers. Then he will expect you to take him to court for not
supporting THE pirated software! He can defend himself with all the
resources at his disposal.

The choice is yours.

Have a nice day!!!
 
irlowe said:
Ok the question was can I ? Not is it legal according to the EULA or what
version OEM it is.
I mean will I physically be able to install the home version and still get
updates? It has service pack one already and is the 2002 version.
If Bill G has a problem with me attaching a version of the program that I
paid for and no longer use he can take me to court!
Click to expand...


There is nothing to stop anybody from experimenting and
discovering whether or not a specific application or OS
will work in such a situation, irrespectively of legality.
Respecting legality is one's personal volition and ethics.

But on a finer point, realize the fact that the OEM program
was not bought separately but bound into the purchase of a
particular product. That is, the two are not separable, due
to the binding agreement that the OEM has with Microsoft and
that is the only legitimate way to obtain XP OEM by the user
in the first place. There has to be a corresponding piece of
qualifying hardware or product. Had this not been available,
the end-user would have had to buy the OS separately, at full
retail. Only then can someone write: "...attaching a version...
that I paid for...."
 
irlowe said:
Ok the question was can I ? Not is it legal according to the EULA or what
version OEM it is.
I mean will I physically be able to install the home version and still get
updates? It has service pack one already and is the 2002 version.
If Bill G has a problem with me attaching a version of the program that I
paid for and no longer use he can take me to court!
Click to expand...

Two kinds of OEMs: those that come with a Dell, HP, etc. and generic
OEMs. Which kind "came with your old computer"? This will answer the
technical question of whether you can put it on the Laptop. Breaching
the EULA is another matter.

Alias
 
Yes you can, just get all the relevent Windows XP drivers for your
brand-type of laptop and install away. When it comes to activation you may
need to phone the very nice and cooperative Product Activation people. Being
OEM, I think you will have to. When asked why your re-installing your OEM
copy of Windows XP, you only need to be honest and tell them you needed to
re-install Windows. If asked did the OEM come with the laptop, you can say
yes, no matter how much they insist in their questioning. They cannot refuse
you activation on doubt on their own notion, they need certainty to refuse
you activation. There are more ambiguities in EULA than a mud mask so there
is no need to concern yourself with the legalities (proposed legalities) of
it.

It's your Windows XP, what do you want to do with it today....

Make sure your laptop is up to Windows XP hardware wise.

- Winux P



: Ok here is a different one.
:
: I have a OEM version of XP home, full install disc that came with my
: computer. I got a full version XP PRO and installed it on the computer,
: legal licence etc. Someone just gave me a laptop with ME on it.
:
: Can I use the licence on the XP Home disc in order to install it on the
: laptop?
 
The answer is NO! You cannot transfer a computer
manufacturer's preinstalled OEM version of Windows
XP to a different computer. The license belongs with
the original computer! Please read your EULA!

Please read your End-User License Agreement by going
to Start > Run and type: WINVER , and hit enter. Then
click on "End-User License Agreement".

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows - Shell/User
Microsoft Community Newsgroups
news://msnews.microsoft.com/

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:

| Ok the question was can I ? Not is it legal according to the EULA or what
| version OEM it is.
| I mean will I physically be able to install the home version and still get
| updates? It has service pack one already and is the 2002 version.
| If Bill G has a problem with me attaching a version of the program that I
| paid for and no longer use he can take me to court!
 
Carey said:
The answer is NO! You cannot transfer a computer
manufacturer's preinstalled OEM version of Windows
XP to a different computer. The license belongs with
the original computer! Please read your EULA!

Please read your End-User License Agreement by going
to Start > Run and type: WINVER , and hit enter. Then
click on "End-User License Agreement".
Click to expand...

Reading comprehension problem again Carey? The OP was NOT asking whether
the EULA would "permit it". The question was and I quote:

"Ok the question was can I ? Not is it legal according to the EULA or
what version OEM it is."

Alias
:

| Ok the question was can I ? Not is it legal according to the EULA or what
| version OEM it is.
| I mean will I physically be able to install the home version and still get
| updates? It has service pack one already and is the 2002 version.
| If Bill G has a problem with me attaching a version of the program that I
| paid for and no longer use he can take me to court!
 
"Ok the question was can I ?

Answer: NO!

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows - Shell/User
Microsoft Community Newsgroups
news://msnews.microsoft.com/

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:

in message | Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:
| > The answer is NO! You cannot transfer a computer
| > manufacturer's preinstalled OEM version of Windows
| > XP to a different computer. The license belongs with
| > the original computer! Please read your EULA!
| >
| > Please read your End-User License Agreement by going
| > to Start > Run and type: WINVER , and hit enter. Then
| > click on "End-User License Agreement".
|
| Reading comprehension problem again Carey? The OP was NOT asking whether
| the EULA would "permit it". The question was and I quote:
|
| "Ok the question was can I ? Not is it legal according to the EULA or
| what version OEM it is."
|
| Alias
| >
|
| "irlowe" wrote:
|
|| Ok the question was can I ? Not is it legal according to the EULA or what
|| version OEM it is.
|| I mean will I physically be able to install the home version and still get
|| updates? It has service pack one already and is the 2002 version.
|| If Bill G has a problem with me attaching a version of the program that I
|| paid for and no longer use he can take me to court!
 
Carey said:
"Ok the question was can I ?

Answer: NO!
Click to expand...

That would only apply to an OEM that comes from someone like HP or Dell,
yes? We are speaking technically here, not morally, ethically or legally.

Alias
 
This whole EULA subject is akin to the Volstead Act of 1919,
almost unenforceable and a rip-off of the consumer.....
 
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