Legality of OEM Win XP 1-2 CPU

A

Ashley

Hey guys, does anyone know what is meant by the sticker on
OEM copies of WIN XP that say "1-2CPU"? I always have
taken it to mean that you can install that copy on up
to "2 CPU's", as in my laptop and my desktop.
 
C

Carey Frisch [MVP]

"1-2CPU" means you can install Windows XP on a
computer that has either one or two processors. It does
not mean you can install Windows XP on two different
computers using the same license (Product Key). If you
try it, you'll be unable to activate the second installation.

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| Hey guys, does anyone know what is meant by the sticker on
| OEM copies of WIN XP that say "1-2CPU"? I always have
| taken it to mean that you can install that copy on up
| to "2 CPU's", as in my laptop and my desktop.
 
C

Crusty \(-: Old B@stard :-\)

That's 2 computers - not 2 CPU's.

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aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :)
 
K

kurttrail

Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:

http://microscum.com/crapolammpafaq
"1-2CPU" means you can install Windows XP on a
computer that has either one or two processors. It does
not mean you can install Windows XP on two different
computers using the same license (Product Key). If you
try it, you'll be unable to activate the second installation.

http://microscum.com/mmpafaq

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N

none

Nice creative thinking. To bad what you have done is illegal.

NT, W2K pro, XP Pro all support dual processors (2 CPUs on the same mother
board)
 
G

Greg R

I reallly don't know if this is possible. I suppose if you add a
third cpu. You couldn't use xp at all. Even the retail version.
You would have to get windows 98se or me it does not have the cpu
Restrictions.
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

In
Ashley said:
Hey guys, does anyone know what is meant by the sticker on
OEM copies of WIN XP that say "1-2CPU"? I always have
taken it to mean that you can install that copy on up
to "2 CPU's", as in my laptop and my desktop.


No, that's not correct. Please don't confuse a CPU and a
computer. Your laptop and your desktop are computers, not CPUs.

A "CPU" is a chip, the "brain" of the computer. Examples of CPUs
are Pentium, Pentium II, Pentium III, Pentium IV, Celeron,
Athlon.

It has nothing to do with OEM copies of Windows XP in particular.
All copies of Windows XP *Professional* (but not Home) can
support up to two CPUs on the same computer. XP Home can support
only a single CPU.

That's the technical issue. The licensing issue is that not only
Windows XP, but all versions of Windows since Windows 3.1 are
licensed to be run on a single computer. You can not legally
install a single copy on two computers.
 
X

xe77

Yes, Windows 98 SE won't care if you have 3 CPU because it
only supports using one processor, it will simply not use
the other two CPUs thus making your expensive 3 CPU
computer very unused.
Otherwise other licenses of Windows 2000 Server, 2003
Server, NT Server, etc. do support more than 2 CPUs and
actually use them.

-----Original Message-----
I reallly don't know if this is possible. I suppose if you add a
third cpu. You couldn't use xp at all. Even the retail version.
You would have to get windows 98se or me it does not have the cpu
Restrictions.

 
J

Jim Macklin

Wrong on several accounts. All versions of Windows are
licensed for installation on one (1) computer. Certain
versions support more than one CPU in that computer.
W98 does not support a motherboard with more than one CPU.
Windows XP Home does not support 2 physical CPUs, but does
support multithreaded CPUs which will appear as two logical
processors.

Windows XP Pro supports two physical processors which would
show as 4 logical processors.

To use more processors, you buy a server version of Windows.

But even a server version of Windows is licensed for one
server unless you buy a volume license.


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But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.


| I reallly don't know if this is possible. I suppose if
you add a
| third cpu. You couldn't use xp at all. Even the retail
version.
| You would have to get windows 98se or me it does not have
the cpu
| Restrictions.
|
|
| >On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 23:21:41 GMT, "none" <[email protected]>
wrote:
|
| >Nice creative thinking. To bad what you have done is
illegal.
| >
| >NT, W2K pro, XP Pro all support dual processors (2 CPUs
on the same mother
| >board)
| >
| >
message
| >| >> Hey guys, does anyone know what is meant by the sticker
on
| >> OEM copies of WIN XP that say "1-2CPU"? I always have
| >> taken it to mean that you can install that copy on up
| >> to "2 CPU's", as in my laptop and my desktop.
| >
|
 
T

Tee

none said:
Nice creative thinking. To bad what you have done is illegal.

NT, W2K pro, XP Pro all support dual processors (2 CPUs on the same mother
board)

Its in violation of MS's EULA but not illegal.
 
N

none

Lets see, theft is not illegal. cool.

You and Ashley really need to hook up. You guys would rule the world.

So I could by just one copy of microsoft office and install it on all 300
PCs and not worry about any reprocussions? Is it ok if I get audited to tell
them Tee said it OK.
 
T

Tee

none said:
Lets see, theft is not illegal. cool.

You and Ashley really need to hook up. You guys would rule the world.

So I could by just one copy of microsoft office and install it on all 300
PCs and not worry about any reprocussions? Is it ok if I get audited to tell
them Tee said it OK.

Cite for me one example where MS took a person to court for installing their
purchased copy of Windows on more than one computer and won. MS' EULA is
not a law therefore its not "illegal" to ignore it. Its unethical and goes
against MS's trust but *not* illegal. As for the last statement of yours, I
never said it was OK or anything close so get a dictionary, learn to read
for comprehension and lose the attitude.
 
K

kurttrail

none said:
Lets see, theft is not illegal. cool.

What theft?
You and Ashley really need to hook up. You guys would rule the world.

So I could by just one copy of microsoft office and install it on all
300 PCs and not worry about any reprocussions? Is it ok if I get
audited to tell them Tee said it OK.

You are talking about for a business use. Private non-commercial
Individuals have "fair use" rights that the copyright owner can't
shrink-wrap license away.

MS's EULA is a perfectly valid commercial use contract, but when it comes to
the private non-commercial use of legally purchased software the copyright
owner doesn't possess the right to limit an individuals "fair use" of their
copy of copyrighted material.

"Any individual may reproduce a copyrighted work for a "fair use"; the
copyright owner does not possess the exclusive right to such a use." -
http://laws.findlaw.com/us/464/417.html

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T

Tee

kurttrail said:
What theft?


You are talking about for a business use. Private non-commercial
Individuals have "fair use" rights that the copyright owner can't
shrink-wrap license away.

MS's EULA is a perfectly valid commercial use contract, but when it comes to
the private non-commercial use of legally purchased software the copyright
owner doesn't possess the right to limit an individuals "fair use" of their
copy of copyrighted material.

"Any individual may reproduce a copyrighted work for a "fair use"; the
copyright owner does not possess the exclusive right to such a use." -
http://laws.findlaw.com/us/464/417.html

Thank you.
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

In
Greg R said:
I reallly don't know if this is possible. I suppose if you add a
third cpu. You couldn't use xp at all.


No, not true. It would just ignore it.

Even the retail version.
You would have to get windows 98se or me it does not have the cpu
Restrictions.


Both Windows 98 and Me are restricted to a single CPU. Any more
will be ignored.

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Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
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B

Bruce Chambers

Greetings --

Neither a laptop not a desktop is a "CPU," although both will
contain at least one CPU.

The CPU (Central Processing Unit) is a semiconductor chip that
sits inside a PC or laptop and functions (loosely) as the heart and
brains of the computer. Some high-end computers contain two CPUs, and
this is what the license description is referring to, not to two
separate computers.

Bruce Chambers
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B

Bruce Chambers

Greetings --

That's self-contradictory, I'm afraid. Violating the EULA, in
point of fact, violates both copyright law and contract law. Read for
yourself:

TITLE 17 , CHAPTER 1 , Sec. 117.
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/117.html

Procd, Inc. v. Zeidenberg
http://www.law.emory.edu/7circuit/june96/96-1139.html

(Consult an attorney versed in copyright law to determine final
applicability in your specific locale.)

Bruce Chambers
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B

Bruce Chambers

Greetings --

Oh, come on, now. Isn't this a bit like saying that murder isn't
illegal unless the murderer is captured and convicted? A crime has
still been committed, whether or not the guilty party is ever brought
to justice. (And no, I'm _not_ equating contract violation with
murder, or civil law with criminal law; it's just an example.) While
the law sometimes admittedly isn't of very much value if it isn't
enforced, it's still the law.


Bruce Chambers
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B

Bruce Chambers

Greetings --

Ah, yes. The much-ballyhoo-ed "Fair Use" argument. This is
nothing more than a red herring that isn't even applicable in the case
of making unauthorized copies of software for daily use, either
personal or commercial. Specifically:

"Fair use is a copyright principle based on the belief that the
public is entitled to freely use *portions* of copyrighted materials
for purposes of *commentary and criticism*. For example, if you wish
to criticize a novelist, you should have the freedom to quote a
portion of the novelist's work without asking permission. Absent this
freedom, copyright owners could stifle any negative comments about
their work."
(http://fairuse.stanford.edu/Copyright_and_Fair_Use_Overview/chapter9/
index.html)
(Emphasis mine.)

"Judges use four factors in resolving fair use disputes, which are
discussed in detail below. It's important to understand that these
factors are only guidelines and the courts are free to adapt them to
particular situations on a case-by-case basis. In other words, a judge
has a great deal of freedom when making a fair use determination and
the outcome in any given case can be hard to predict.

"The four factors judges consider are:

1.. the purpose and character of your use
2.. the nature of the copyrighted work
3.. the amount and substantiality of the portion taken, and
4.. the effect of the use upon the potential market. "
(http://fairuse.stanford.edu/Copyright_and_Fair_Use_Overview/chapter9/
9-b.html)

Feel free to peruse the entire article, which will make it
abundantly clear that there is no way that anyone could successfully
argue that installing a second copy of an operation system onto a
second computer, without the copyright holder's express permission,
for the sole purpose of not having to buy a second license, could
possibly meet the criteria of "Fair Use." (Although, I suppose it is
theoretically possible that a judge might so rule, someday, but I
seriously doubt that such a ruling would withstand appeal.)

You might also try actually reading the law, though it won't
support your position:

TITLE 17 , CHAPTER 1 , Sec. 107.
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.html


Bruce Chambers
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B

Bruce Chambers

Greetings --

You're thanking Kurt for deliberately misleading you? While we're
at it, I've some beachfront property in Nevada I'm trying to sell.

Do you realize that all Kurt did was quote one sentence, taken
completely out of context, from a court decision that have absolutely
nothing to do with computer software? The case was about television
and motion picture studios trying to prevent Sony from marketing a
video recorder.


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