LaCie reliability

[MikeM]

I read on a web site that LaCie drives are top for reliability, based
on a web survey. Is this a general opinion?

Thanks
Mike

 

[Paul]

I read on a web site that LaCie drives are top for reliability, based
on a web survey. Is this a general opinion?

Thanks
Mike

Say I take a box, and I put a Maxtor/Seagate/Samsung/Hitachi or
some other manufacturer's drive in it. How is the reliability
determined ? By the underlying drive mechanism. Lacie doesn't make
drives themselves, and they use someone else's drives to offer
you products.

You'd need to know what brand of drive they used, to know something
about the expected reliability. And at the best of times that
can be hard to predict. While I have my favorite brands, not
everyone shares my opinion.

I selected this customer review purely at random from a Newegg
listing of Lacie products, and this doesn't look good. One
thing I noticed, is there are not a lot of customer reviews
filed for LaCie products, which means either not many people are
buying them or no one felt a need to write a review. Compare
that to the 100's of reviews written for motherboards.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/CustratingReview.asp?Item=N82E16822154070

I think finding a decent enclosure, and picking up a hard
drive and making a DIY product, is going to bring you
just as much satisfaction. Look on the Newegg site for
raw drives, and read the customer reviews to see which brands
caused grief for their customers.

As for enclosures, I like an enclosure with a fan. I also like
to see good sized vent holes, so the fan can actually pull air
into the enclosure. There are a number of enclosures, that attempt
to use conduction, or simply ignore the potential for the
enclosure to get hot. It is surprising how much money you have
to spend, to get a well designed enclosure, when you know they
can buy a fan for $1 if they wanted to. The life of the drive
is partially determined by its operating temperature (and
relative humidity), so a well ventilated enclosure will
encourage the drive to last a bit longer.

Paul

 

[Rod Speed]

I read on a web site that LaCie drives are top for reliability,
based on a web survey. Is this a general opinion?

Nope, its pure bullshit.

 

[Spajky]

I think finding a decent enclosure, and picking up a hard
drive and making a DIY product,...
As for enclosures, I like an enclosure with a fan.....

I did it myself: on my site under Comp/mods ...

 

[Jan Alter]

Nope, its pure bullshit.

Why?

What facts do you have to support that claim?


Jan Alter

 

[Rod Speed]

Why?

Because it is.

What facts do you have to support that claim?

That web site made that claim.

It gets to provide the evidence to substantiate that claim.

THATS how it works.

 

[John Doe]

Say I take a box, and I put a Maxtor/Seagate/Samsung/Hitachi or
some other manufacturer's drive in it. How is the reliability
determined ?

Hopefully by you, the seller.

By the underlying drive mechanism.

Lots of ways, but your customer doesn't have to determine that.

Lacie doesn't make drives themselves, and they use someone else's
drives to offer you products.

A company that re-brands products is suspect?

You'd need to know what brand of drive they used, to know
something about the expected reliability.

Or you could know by how reliable their products usually are.

I don't follow your argument. Are you saying that re-branded
products are bad?

 

[Jan Alter]

Because it is.


That web site made that claim.

It gets to provide the evidence to substantiate that claim.

THATS how it works.

It's possible the evidence is there but simply was not sent by the OP. Maybe
he can elucidate to give that information. I'd actually be interested in the
website claiming the reliability before the dastardly label of "bullshit" is
imposed. And if no facts come forth I'd probably leave it at ka-ka. Bullshit
is such a harsh word.

 

[MikeM]

The site I got the info from is:

http://www.vaughns-1-pagers.com/computer/data-backup.htm

Mike

 

[Rod Speed]

It's possible the evidence is there but simply was not sent by the OP.

Possible, but very unlikely. No one has any access to the only data
that matters, the return rate seen with all hard drive manufacturers.

The most that might be available is the return rate seen
by one of the major retaillers of hard drives, and even
that isnt statistically very useful because one of the hard
drive manufacturers may do the returns so conveniently
that few bother to return a failed drive via the retailler.

Maybe he can elucidate to give that information.

Bet he wont.

I'd actually be interested in the website claiming the reliability before the dastardly label of
"bullshit" is imposed.

Some of us have enough of a clue about the
basics like who actually has accurate reliability
data to know that that wont be on any web site.

And if no facts come forth I'd probably leave it at ka-ka. Bullshit is such a harsh word.

But accurate in this particular case.

 

[Rod Speed]

Like I said, pure bullshit.

The site I got the info from is:

http://www.vaughns-1-pagers.com/computer/data-backup.htm

Mike

 

[Jan Alter]

You could easily argue for the perfection of the data, especially about with
the time frame that the reports were tallied. It's hardly perfect. However,
with my own experience and reading stories from others who compute and build
their own machines I've got my own opinion and would count Maxtor at the
bottom of the heap in the past ten years.
A lot of this also has to factor with just how many drives are being sold
by each manufacturer. My thoughts are that both Maxtor and WD probably have
the largest sales and so would also have the largest incidence of returns,
unless their quality is something extraordinary, which clearly it isn't.
Both Lacie and Iomega produce a smaller number of drives in comparison (and
I'm unclear if each company's drives are their own make or simply rebadged)
and so look that much the better in the complaint department even if their
drives are equal or possibly a little worse than Maxtor and WD. But for me
to accept that Lacie and Iomega are clearly better than Maxtor or WD would
take a lot of faith from the information presented. Still, it's hardly
bullshit. It's just ordinary ka-ka.

 

[Rod Speed]

You could easily argue for the perfection of the data, especially about with the time frame that
the reports were tallied. It's hardly perfect.

Its actually pathetic.

However, with my own experience and reading stories from others who compute and build their own
machines I've got my own opinion and would count Maxtor at the bottom of the heap in the past ten
years.

Yes, but there isnt any evidence that LaCie is at the top.

A lot of this also has to factor with just how many drives are being sold by each manufacturer.

Yes, that's the other problem with that pathetic excuse for a site.

My thoughts are that both Maxtor and WD probably have the largest sales

Thats doubtful.

and so would also have the largest incidence of returns, unless their quality is something
extraordinary, which clearly it isn't.

There is some evidence that Maxtor's is
rather poor, particulary their external drives.

Both Lacie and Iomega produce a smaller number of drives in comparison

Correct. Another reason why that site is pure bullshit.

(and I'm unclear if each company's drives are their own make or simply rebadged)

Neither make hard drives.

and so look that much the better in the complaint department even if their drives are equal or
possibly a little worse than Maxtor and WD.

Yes, thats the most obvious problem with that pathetic excuse for a site.

But for me to accept that Lacie and Iomega are clearly better than Maxtor or WD would take a lot
of faith from the information presented. Still, it's hardly bullshit. It's just ordinary ka-ka.

I just use the word bullshit instead of shit.