Keep with next not working

G

Guest

Now that I understand a little better how to use "keep with next" to keep a
paragraph heading with the paragraph that follows, I've got a new problem.
Even though I highlight only the heading and the first two lines of a long
paragraph following and specify "keep with next," the heading and the entire
paragraph move to the next page, leaving me with half a blank page before it.
How do I get the heading and only a maximum of two lines to "keep with next?"
I don't seem to be having this problem with other headings and long
paragraphs.
 
G

garfield-n-odie [MVP]

I would select "Keep lines together" and "Keep with next" for the
paragraph heading, and I would select "Widow/orphan control" for the
paragraph that follows.
 
J

Jezebel

'Keep with next' applies to the entire paragraph. You meant to apply it to
the heading, to require the heading to stay with (some of) the following
paragraph. But by selecting some of the following paragraph also, you
specified that the text paragraph itself has to stay with whatever follows
(ie the third paragraph).

Select the text paragraph and clear 'keep with next'.
 
S

Suzanne S. Barnhill

Yes, this one really bugs me. I can understand that it's easier to code and
logical in machine terms, but it's not logical in human terms.

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Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

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Stefan Blom said:
Also, note that "Keep with next" may imply "Keep lines together."
See the following thread:

Illogical behavior of "Keep with next" over page breaks
http://groups.google.com/group/micr...read/thread/6c4d555e46dd5a53/5f6917251539d550

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Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


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G

Guest

Thank you all! It seems to accomplish what I need when I highlight the
heading and blank line below it and mark it as "keep with next" and "keep
lines together," while having the whole document widow/orphan protected.
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Thanks,
Pam


Suzanne S. Barnhill said:
Yes, this one really bugs me. I can understand that it's easier to code and
logical in machine terms, but it's not logical in human terms.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

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all may benefit.
 
S

Suzanne S. Barnhill

Just be aware that in doing so you're formatting both paragraphs this way;
it isn't like using Block Protect in Word Perfect to keep just the heading
and the first line of the following paragraph together. "Keep lines
together" affects the entire paragraph, and "Keep with next" will keep the
second paragraph with the one following it, which may not always be what you
want.

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Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

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S

Stefan Blom

Pam,
Also note that the "blank line," if it's an empty paragraph mark, is
unnecessary. Use Spacing After or Spacing Before instead. (Of course,
this doesn't affect the underlying issue with "Keep with next.")

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


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S

Stefan Blom

I find it annoying too. Whether it is easy to code really isn't (or
shouldn't be) relevant!

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


in message
Yes, this one really bugs me. I can understand that it's easier to code and
logical in machine terms, but it's not logical in human terms.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

Stefan Blom said:
Also, note that "Keep with next" may imply "Keep lines together."
See the following thread:

Illogical behavior of "Keep with next" over page breaks
http://groups.google.com/group/micr...read/thread/6c4d555e46dd5a53/5f6917251539d550
 

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