I've lost control

[Steve]

My site has been up and functioning for a few weeks, but
seems to be tetering closer and closer to failing. Here's
a nutshell history.

1) I design and publish site no problems
2) I make numerous page changes and publish changes on a
page by page basis. No problems
3) I get my web hosting guy to install a CGI discussion
software for me (I'm still new to this) Problems now start
I can't do an overall publish anymore I can only update
page by page and image by image. On the remote site, I am
no longer listed as the author, ne is.
4) I decide the discussion software isn't acceptable and
purchase new, it is installed for me by the creator.
5) My web hosting guy (a middleman I now find out) decides
to move all his clients (including me) to a new server. He
does 99% of the move (remember I'm still a newbie and have
no clue how to publish from one remote to a different
remote) Now I have real problems.

When I try to publish I get notification about the CGI
discussion files and folders that don't exist on my local
web "Do you want to delete from remote site ?" I say no to
all. I then get message that routing has been changed by
another author and am offered choice between overwrite,
don't overwrite, or merge. No matter which choice I make
FrontPage 2003 then gives me a message "System exemption
access violation" and shuts down.

When these changes were made to my web they were done
while signed in on my password, in fact there are no other
passwords or authorized users.

How do I get back in control ?

Steve
"System

 

[Crash Gordon]

I'm no expert here (im sure the gurus will follow up)...but first thing I would do is Publish the online web back down to your local machine to a DIFFERENT local web...as a backup.


R.


| My site has been up and functioning for a few weeks, but
| seems to be tetering closer and closer to failing. Here's
| a nutshell history.
|
| 1) I design and publish site no problems
| 2) I make numerous page changes and publish changes on a
| page by page basis. No problems
| 3) I get my web hosting guy to install a CGI discussion
| software for me (I'm still new to this) Problems now start
| I can't do an overall publish anymore I can only update
| page by page and image by image. On the remote site, I am
| no longer listed as the author, ne is.
| 4) I decide the discussion software isn't acceptable and
| purchase new, it is installed for me by the creator.
| 5) My web hosting guy (a middleman I now find out) decides
| to move all his clients (including me) to a new server. He
| does 99% of the move (remember I'm still a newbie and have
| no clue how to publish from one remote to a different
| remote) Now I have real problems.
|
| When I try to publish I get notification about the CGI
| discussion files and folders that don't exist on my local
| web "Do you want to delete from remote site ?" I say no to
| all. I then get message that routing has been changed by
| another author and am offered choice between overwrite,
| don't overwrite, or merge. No matter which choice I make
| FrontPage 2003 then gives me a message "System exemption
| access violation" and shuts down.
|
| When these changes were made to my web they were done
| while signed in on my password, in fact there are no other
| passwords or authorized users.
|
| How do I get back in control ?
|
| Steve
| "System
|

 

[chris leeds]

first, your hosting reseller is a little "jerky". secondly I'd be willing
to bet dollars to donuts (a pretty even bet these days) that it's an apache/
UNIX machine.
He's either got your FrontPage extensions broken or they don't exist.
If I were you I'd get myself on a windows server and cut off a lot of
potential problems. on that windows server make sure you've got the proper
extensions and that they're updated as they should be. by following just
this paragraph you can prevent a lot of hair pulling. believe me I learned
it the hard way.
In closing, there's really nothing wrong with a reseller as long as they're
reselling off a good server that's well maintained and understood by the
admins. for instance I do a little hosting: http://nedp.net/hosting and
it's a benefit to my customers because they all know me, they know how to
get in with me and I take a personal interest and a certain degree of pride
in the service they get.
I also spent a lot of time looking for a good arrangement for both me and my
customers.
HTH

 

[Guest]

-----Original Message-----
I'm no expert here (im sure the gurus will follow

up)...but first thing I would do is Publish the online web
back down to your local machine to a DIFFERENT local
web...as a backup.

I do have several backups of the local and remote site. I
don't see that backing up the "problems" of the remote site
will accomplish much, Please enlighten me. I want it to be
more like my local rather than the other way around.

Steve

 

[Crash Gordon]

backing up is never a bad idea.


|
| >-----Original Message-----
| >I'm no expert here (im sure the gurus will follow
| up)...but first thing I would do is Publish the online web
| back down to your local machine to a DIFFERENT local
| web...as a backup.
|
| I do have several backups of the local and remote site. I
| don't see that backing up the "problems" of the remote site
| will accomplish much, Please enlighten me. I want it to be
| more like my local rather than the other way around.
|
| Steve
|

 

[Crash Gordon]

forgot to tell you why.
because you might make a million changes trying to fix the original problem only to discover you've created new problems...with a backup you can get back to the original situation at least.


|
| >-----Original Message-----
| >I'm no expert here (im sure the gurus will follow
| up)...but first thing I would do is Publish the online web
| back down to your local machine to a DIFFERENT local
| web...as a backup.
|
| I do have several backups of the local and remote site. I
| don't see that backing up the "problems" of the remote site
| will accomplish much, Please enlighten me. I want it to be
| more like my local rather than the other way around.
|
| Steve
|

 

[Steve]

He says it's Windows2003. On the control Panel
for the site it mentions FrontPage and FrontPage is turned
on.

Steve

-----Original Message-----
first, your hosting reseller is a little "jerky". secondly I'd be willing
to bet dollars to donuts (a pretty even bet these days) that it's an apache/
UNIX machine.
He's either got your FrontPage extensions broken or they don't exist.
If I were you I'd get myself on a windows server and cut off a lot of
potential problems. on that windows server make sure you've got the proper
extensions and that they're updated as they should be. by following just
this paragraph you can prevent a lot of hair pulling. believe me I learned
it the hard way.
In closing, there's really nothing wrong with a reseller as long as they're
reselling off a good server that's well maintained and understood by the
admins. for instance I do a little hosting:

http://nedp.net/hosting and

 

[chris leeds]

just because it's turned on doesn't mean it's not corrupt or that it doesn't
have the proper permissions set.

from what I understand it's not like someone can just hit the ground running
with a server 03. It takes some learning.

sounds like once he gets the permissions/ extensions settled you'll be in
good shape.

 

[Binu K]

To find FPSE version, open http://<yoursitename>/_vti_inf.html, view source
and you can find the FPSE version

in the souce view if your finding some thing like this
then your site is on a window webserver

FPVersion=< Your version number>
FPShtmlScriptUrl="_vti_bin/shtml.dll/_vti_rpc"
FPAuthorScriptUrl="_vti_bin/_vti_aut/author.dll"
FPAdminScriptUrl="_vti_bin/_vti_adm/admin.dll"
TPScriptUrl="_vti_bin/owssvr.dll"



else if the code view is similar to the lines below you are on a unix
webserver

FPVersion=<your version number>
FPShtmlScriptUrl="_vti_bin/shtml.exe/_vti_rpc"
FPAuthorScriptUrl="_vti_bin/_vti_aut/author.exe"
FPAdminScriptUrl="_vti_bin/_vti_adm/admin.exe"
TPScriptUrl="_vti_bin/owssvr.exe"


For the system exeption( your oginal issue), first find for a bucket id of
the failed frontpage application to check against the known issues. In your
computer running FP2003 do the followingsteps
a) Run ‘msinfo32’ from the command line. (If it fails to run, then
run ‘winmsd’)
b) go to office 2003 applications and click on office event
application fault. check for application fault for frontpg.exe, Check for
the Bucket ID and the Bucket Table.

post the bucket id and the bucket table, in your next response

 

[Binu K [MSFT]]

You should be able to rename the index.htm from the FrontPage
if your are notable to rename it through FrontPage, check the os in the web
server, it might be on an Unix/Linux server.

check with your ISP, UNIX file system has this kind of errors with
FrontPage server extensions