Is your Vista slow to re-establish the network after wake from sleep?

T

turnstyle

Hi all, just wondering if a problem I'm having is limited to me, or if
it's a general Vista thing.

If you put your Vista PC (I'm on a laptop) to sleep, then wake it, and
(right after it wakes) try to visit a Web site -- does it take a
little while before that works for you?

With XP / Win200 I can immediately get online after it wakes, but with
Vista I have to wait -- so I'm curious to know if others have the same
problem, or if there's something funky about my setup.

So, if you have a sec -- it would be great if you might put yours to
sleep, wake it, and then try to visit a site -- does that work right
away for you, or do you have to wait too?

Thnanks! -Scott
 
K

Kerry Brown

turnstyle said:
Hi all, just wondering if a problem I'm having is limited to me, or if
it's a general Vista thing.

If you put your Vista PC (I'm on a laptop) to sleep, then wake it, and
(right after it wakes) try to visit a Web site -- does it take a
little while before that works for you?

With XP / Win200 I can immediately get online after it wakes, but with
Vista I have to wait -- so I'm curious to know if others have the same
problem, or if there's something funky about my setup.

So, if you have a sec -- it would be great if you might put yours to
sleep, wake it, and then try to visit a site -- does that work right
away for you, or do you have to wait too?

Thnanks! -Scott


This is dependent on many things. The first thing to check is your NIC
driver. Do you have the latest driver?
 
T

turnstyle

This is dependent on many things. The first thing to check is your NIC
driver. Do you have the latest driver?

fwiw, it's a Thinkpad with the Intel B/G/N wi-fi card (the 4965AGN) --
according to the IBM/Lenovo site, it is up-to-date.

However your question made me think to try the same with the wired
connetion -- so I disabled the wi-fi, plugged in the Ethernet -- and
that worked as expected (ie, I'm online as soon as it wakes).

So this only happens for me over wi-fi -- anything else I might try?

Do you (or anybody else here) have a Vista laptop with wi-fi? If you
wake from sleep, are you immediately online, or do you have to wait
before it comes back?

Thanks kindly! -Scott
 
K

Kerry Brown

turnstyle said:
fwiw, it's a Thinkpad with the Intel B/G/N wi-fi card (the 4965AGN) --
according to the IBM/Lenovo site, it is up-to-date.

However your question made me think to try the same with the wired
connetion -- so I disabled the wi-fi, plugged in the Ethernet -- and
that worked as expected (ie, I'm online as soon as it wakes).

So this only happens for me over wi-fi -- anything else I might try?

Do you (or anybody else here) have a Vista laptop with wi-fi? If you
wake from sleep, are you immediately online, or do you have to wait
before it comes back?

Thanks kindly! -Scott


You may want to try the latest driver direct from Intel. Intel seems to be
having a problem with drivers for that chipset. I have an Acer laptop that
uses a Broadcom wireless chipset. I had to try several drivers before I
found one that worked properly when resuming from sleep. The one I'm using
is actually an older driver from last June.
 
T

turnstyle

Just curious -- if you sleep/wake your Acer with the wi-fi, does it re-
establish the network immediately? (ie, it would be interesting to
know if this happens for all Vista wi-fi connections, or just the
4965AGN)

Thanks! -Scott
 
K

Kerry Brown

turnstyle said:
Just curious -- if you sleep/wake your Acer with the wi-fi, does it re-
establish the network immediately? (ie, it would be interesting to
know if this happens for all Vista wi-fi connections, or just the
4965AGN)

Thanks! -Scott


From sleep it establishes immediately. From hibernation I usually have to do
a manual re-connect.
 
T

turnstyle

Thanks for trying that -- so at least that means that Vista itself is
capable of re-establishing the network reasonably fast after it wakes
from sleep. (I just timed mine and it takes another 30-35 seconds
after I get the desktop).

Apart from updating the wi-fi driver, is there anything else that you
might suggest?

thanks again, -Scott
 
K

Kerry Brown

turnstyle said:
Thanks for trying that -- so at least that means that Vista itself is
capable of re-establishing the network reasonably fast after it wakes
from sleep. (I just timed mine and it takes another 30-35 seconds
after I get the desktop).

Apart from updating the wi-fi driver, is there anything else that you
might suggest?


Make sure you have all the reliability updates installed.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=vista+reliability+update+site:microsoft.com&meta=

Or wait for SP1 which includes all of the updates.
 
C

Curious

How are you connected to the internet? If using a router make sure it is
set up to refresh its connection to your ISP every 5 minutes or so, so that
the connection will not drop when you are not actively connected to the
router.
 
T

turnstyle

Thanks,

But it's not likely the router or wi-fi adapter -- I do have other
laptops here on wi-fi that do re-establish the network immediately
upon wake (one XP with B/G, and one Win2k with B).

I've only seen this with the Vista with 4965AGN...

-Scott
 
C

Curious

Does your wireless router also support B, G, and N? If not can you force
your slow to connect system to only try G?
 
M

Mr. Arnold

turnstyle said:
Hi all, just wondering if a problem I'm having is limited to me, or if
it's a general Vista thing.

If you put your Vista PC (I'm on a laptop) to sleep, then wake it, and
(right after it wakes) try to visit a Web site -- does it take a
little while before that works for you?

No and that's wired or wireless.
 
T

turnstyle

Hi all,

An update on my slow-to-reestablish network, after my Vista laptop
wakes from sleep...

I had been using a "no broadcast SSID" wi-fi setup, and Vista seems a
bit bumpy with that (as compared to a more conventional broadcast SSID
setup).

My XP and Win2k laptops both immediately reestablished the network
with the no-broadcast setup, but my Vista took more than 30 seconds.

After some tinkering, I discovered that if I changed the wi-fi adapter
to use a broadcast SSID setup, then the Vista laptop would now
reestablish the network immediately, like the others.

So -- it seems that was the troublemaker -- hopefully this info will
prove useful to somebody... ;)

-Scott
 
K

Kerry Brown

Thanks for the update. That's useful to know.

Not broadcasting the SSID doesn't really add any security to your wireless.
It may actually cause problems with some new N class routers clobbering
your router because they don't see your network and broadcast on the same
channel.
 
T

turnstyle

I do understand that not broadcasting the SSID isn't formal security,
but it still has its uses.

Regardless of the merits of non-broadcast SSID networks, it still
seems Vista shouldn't take 30+ seconds to recconect after wake (as
compared to XP/Win2k, which do so immediately).

Thanks again -- this thread helped me finally fix an annoying
problem! ;)

-Scott
 
C

Curious

My Vista laptop using wireless and my vista desktop wired connection both
instantly connect to the network on wakeup.
 
T

turnstyle

My Vista laptop using wireless and my vista desktop wired connection both
instantly connect to the network on wakeup.

Hey Curious -- my guess is that your wireless network is using a
traditional broadcast SSID. After some tinkering, I changed my network
from non-broadcast to broadcast, and the problem went away. (also note
that only my Vista laptop was slow connecting to the non-broadcast
network -- my XP and Win2k laptops were always fine.)

thanks again, -Scott
 
S

Shatadru

Hi Vistas is slow generally. I recently brought a Sony Vio TZ model with
pre-loaded Vista Business edition-which turned out to be slower than the
windows 97 run on my first computer purchased in 1994.

It is expected that the micorosoft would be attempting to reduce the booting
time of its windows. However it is becoming clear that what it seeks is to
load the brand new computers with heavy operating systems and then as a
solution asks you to but RAM and booster drives etc. Also this would be great
for processor makers as they would go on increasing the processing speed bit
like Bubkas long jump records.

Come on guys-give us a break. Give a good system, we are willing to pay a
good price for that-but not this way. I am changing to Apple-its way ahead.

Shatadru C
 
M

murphyslaww

in addition, should we now eliminate the not-broadcasting SSID settings from
all routers now, since Vista doesn't like it?
 
J

jrock35

2/22/08
I 'm using a new HP 6000 series laptop with WI-Fi and just tried what you
said was a problem for you.Put it to sleep and did a wake up.It took about 3
or 4 seconds for it to hook up.I don't consider that to be a problem,Hope
this helps. jrock35
 

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