Is there room in a cookie for a detailed graphic, or would they use a link?


M

micky

I've posted this to the Firefox group on another server, but didn't
get a good answer.

Is it possible for an entire graphic to fit in a cookie, or would the
cookie just hold a link to company server, where the graphic resided?

I've dealt with this compnay for 43 years, and this time for the first
time the service was terrible, a half dozen mistakes. If it were only
this one mistake, I wouldn't care (although I'd still be curious for
technical computer reasons.)

Could what is described below have been be a cookie, or was it a link?

Two months ago I began to put items in my shopping cart, for an order
with an online vendor.

I also requested a printed catalog, to browse through and look for
other things to buy. They constantly offer to send a catalog. They
strung me along, sent a little sale catalog instead of the full one
they promised, then promised to send the right one, but never did

Afteril 8 weeks went by, I finally decided to order what I knew I
needed without seeing the catalog, but just by searching their
webpage. .

When the package arrived today, one of the items I ordered wasn't in
it.

Looking at their website, I see the item is back to the regular price
of 8 dollars each. When I put it in the shopping cart, it was 8
dollars for a pair, and one needs to have two. I can't find these
things locally.

But in the week before I placed the order, the online entry form,
which I closed and reopened more than once, had this item at 8 dollar
for two, and not just 5 or 10 characters to say that, which iiuc would
fit in a cookie, but a whole section of the screen, 2 x 3 inches on a
15" monitor, with a big graphic "Two for 8 dollar" and a color
picture of the item..

Is it possible that this entire graphic was in the cookie?

Or would the cookie just hold a link to company server, which would
hold the graphic?.

Thanks.
 
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philo

I've posted this to the Firefox group on another server, but didn't
get a good answer.

Is it possible for an entire graphic to fit in a cookie, or would the
cookie just hold a link to company server, where the graphic resided?


No, it's just a text file
 
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Paul in Houston TX

micky said:
I've posted this to the Firefox group on another server, but didn't
get a good answer.

Is it possible for an entire graphic to fit in a cookie, or would the
cookie just hold a link to company server, where the graphic resided?

I've dealt with this compnay for 43 years, and this time for the first
time the service was terrible, a half dozen mistakes. If it were only
this one mistake, I wouldn't care (although I'd still be curious for
technical computer reasons.)

Could what is described below have been be a cookie, or was it a link?

Two months ago I began to put items in my shopping cart, for an order
with an online vendor.

I also requested a printed catalog, to browse through and look for
other things to buy. They constantly offer to send a catalog. They
strung me along, sent a little sale catalog instead of the full one
they promised, then promised to send the right one, but never did

Afteril 8 weeks went by, I finally decided to order what I knew I
needed without seeing the catalog, but just by searching their
webpage. .

When the package arrived today, one of the items I ordered wasn't in
it.

Looking at their website, I see the item is back to the regular price
of 8 dollars each. When I put it in the shopping cart, it was 8
dollars for a pair, and one needs to have two. I can't find these
things locally.

But in the week before I placed the order, the online entry form,
which I closed and reopened more than once, had this item at 8 dollar
for two, and not just 5 or 10 characters to say that, which iiuc would
fit in a cookie, but a whole section of the screen, 2 x 3 inches on a
15" monitor, with a big graphic "Two for 8 dollar" and a color
picture of the item..

Is it possible that this entire graphic was in the cookie?

Or would the cookie just hold a link to company server, which would
hold the graphic?.

Thanks.

A cookie is a simple text file for tracking you.
This is the only persistent one that I allow (Google):
52=g10cDUyBCk9v-cwfbMmcTtoqKg-s4qeTgfHBc58FAAN1poDmi9cOWxdbhLHBVAd0cC7pFoQD4nvrQdmcIvyJVS4tIk_IffW

I think what you may be asking for are the temp files from that site
that MAY get stored on your computer. If that site visit is recent,
like a day or so ago, then that picture may still be on your comp.
You will have to search the browser temp files for what ever browser
and o/s you use.

I like to take screen shots of important things
that I buy online and save them. NO account numbers though.
 
M

micky

Thanks Paul and Philo.

A cookie is a simple text file for tracking you.
This is the only persistent one that I allow (Google):
52=g10cDUyBCk9v-cwfbMmcTtoqKg-s4qeTgfHBc58FAAN1poDmi9cOWxdbhLHBVAd0cC7pFoQD4nvrQdmcIvyJVS4tIk_IffW

I think what you may be asking for are the temp files from that site
that MAY get stored on your computer. If that site visit is recent,
like a day or so ago, then that picture may still be on your comp.
You will have to search the browser temp files for what ever browser
and o/s you use.

I like to take screen shots of important things
that I buy online and save them. NO account numbers though.

So you got where I was going. If it was a temp file on my computer
(pointed to by a cookie?) it doesn't mean that the vendor was
refreshing it or promising to sell at that sale price.

Okay, but they still shouldn't have just deleted it from my order.
They should have said, not available at this price, or something.
Or they should have some way to cancel prices that aren't available
when they are still in the shopping cart.

This would not be a big deal but they did so much else wrong. At
least 4 other things. I last bought from them about 3 or 4 years
ago. After their being run by the founder from 19T5 to 1943, and his
son until 1991, it was sold in 1992 and again in 2010, I think that
may have a lot to do with the poor service.

We'll see what they offer when I wirte..

Another thing the vendor didnt' do is email an invoice. I heard
nothing for 2 days, when they sent the tracking number with a list of
5 thihngs. But that email didn't refer to the book which wasn't
supposed to come for 2 or 3 weeks.

Thanks.
 
P

Paul in Houston TX

micky said:
Thanks Paul and Philo.



So you got where I was going. If it was a temp file on my computer
(pointed to by a cookie?) it doesn't mean that the vendor was
refreshing it or promising to sell at that sale price.

Okay, but they still shouldn't have just deleted it from my order.
They should have said, not available at this price, or something.
Or they should have some way to cancel prices that aren't available
when they are still in the shopping cart.

This would not be a big deal but they did so much else wrong. At
least 4 other things. I last bought from them about 3 or 4 years
ago. After their being run by the founder from 19T5 to 1943, and his
son until 1991, it was sold in 1992 and again in 2010, I think that
may have a lot to do with the poor service.

We'll see what they offer when I wirte..

Another thing the vendor didnt' do is email an invoice. I heard
nothing for 2 days, when they sent the tracking number with a list of
5 thihngs. But that email didn't refer to the book which wasn't
supposed to come for 2 or 3 weeks.

Thanks.

The cookie won't point to a web temp file.
Viruses, trojans, and malware do that.
Your computer / browser keeps track of what web page
temp files go with each web page. Most people have them and
don't realize they exist. Same for flash.
All my cookies and temps are wiped upon close of the browsers.

It could be a good company but is not very good with web stuff
or does not care about web sales.
Decent web companies tend to have nice web sites with lots of
info. If they do store sales, too, they often have pictures
of their store.
My rule of thumb: if they don't have a verifiable street
address and phone number, then I don't do business with them.
I also ask in an appropriate news about them.
 
P

Paul in Houston TX

micky said:
Thanks Paul and Philo.



So you got where I was going. If it was a temp file on my computer
(pointed to by a cookie?) it doesn't mean that the vendor was
refreshing it or promising to sell at that sale price.

Okay, but they still shouldn't have just deleted it from my order.
They should have said, not available at this price, or something.
Or they should have some way to cancel prices that aren't available
when they are still in the shopping cart.

This would not be a big deal but they did so much else wrong. At
least 4 other things. I last bought from them about 3 or 4 years
ago. After their being run by the founder from 19T5 to 1943, and his
son until 1991, it was sold in 1992 and again in 2010, I think that
may have a lot to do with the poor service.

We'll see what they offer when I wirte..

Another thing the vendor didnt' do is email an invoice. I heard
nothing for 2 days, when they sent the tracking number with a list of
5 thihngs. But that email didn't refer to the book which wasn't
supposed to come for 2 or 3 weeks.

Thanks.

The cookie won't point to a web temp file.
Viruses, trojans, and malware do that.
Your computer / browser keeps track of what web page
temp files go with each web page. Most people have them and
don't realize they exist. Same for flash.
All my cookies and temps are wiped upon close of the browsers.

It could be a good company but is not very good with web stuff
or does not care about web sales.
Decent web companies tend to have nice web sites with lots of
info. If they do store sales, too, they often have pictures
of their store.
My rule of thumb: if they don't have a verifiable street
address and phone number, then I don't do business with them.
I also ask in an appropriate news about them.
 
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T

Tim Slattery

micky said:
I've posted this to the Firefox group on another server, but didn't
get a good answer.

Is it possible for an entire graphic to fit in a cookie, or would the
cookie just hold a link to company server, where the graphic resided?

It would have to be a *very* small graphic. There is a limit on the
size of a cookie.

But..in HTML5 (supported to a greater or less degree by up-to-date
browsers) there is a provision for local (client-side) storage up to
about 5MB per domain. HTML5 local storage is supported in IE 8+ and
Firefox 3.5+. Bear in mind that this is data that is put there by the
remote server. Therefore it's only stuff that the server already
knows, or that you have told it. It cannot read your disk (or your
mind) and put anything at all there.

For details see: http://diveintohtml5.info/storage.html
 

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