Is there anyway to control the order of in which the [Run] entries are performed in the registry

[JS]

What make things even more interesting is
that you can always count on the same applications
loading in the same order every time you boot.

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com

Randem,
you pretty much have the same idea of how the list in the "Run"
key works as I have. It does indeed depend on how long it takes to load a
given application in the list. Windows is a virtual-mode operating system
and that means here that the first app on the list may still be attempting
to load while the second has finished and the third loads. Thus the order
is not apparently being adhered to. So that is why I said that it was
probably not for you if it was vital if your app is executed last and that
the 'Startup Delayer' util was a better bet.
But nevertheless, Windows will try load them in the order in which
they were added to the registry as that is how the list is stored in the
registry hive file and that is how they are read. I only ever mentioned
this in the first place because you did ask if the 'list' could be
manipulated - and it can. Re-writing the list order in the way I first
described, does, even so, have a significant effect on the way they are
loaded at boot/logon.
I very much hope that you have a suitable solution to your particular
issue, though.

==


Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.

That's ok. It seems that Windows starts all the programs in the [Run]
Section at the same time so the order that they load depends on which
started first and how long it takes to run as well as how much CPU time
is taken by the other programs so it is really a crap shoot.

It seems that this software that we are using needs to be the last thing
loaded or it will start shutting down other things such as permissions
etc... Now if the other apps are running when this app start to shut
things down it can affect the other apps. That is why I need to get it
started last.

--
Randem Systems
Your Installation Specialist
The Top Inno Setup Script Generator
http://www.randem.com/innoscript.html
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I accept it's not what you wanted, if it's as crucial as you say to have
this command executed last, then the utility 'Startup Delayer' posted by
'js' sounds interesting...

However, you are mistaken when you say that the exported list is
alphabetical; it is not. It may just happen to be that way, by
coincidence, in your own exported list but it is not the case in
actuality.

The exported lists are in the order they were written to the registry,
and, as far as I am aware, it is the same order that Windows executes
them - in the order it reads them.

I am sorry that I could not be of more help to you.

==


Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.


Thanks but that is not what I wanted. I need to know how the order is
determined. I know how to export and edit the registry.

BTW: The way they are show is alphabetical and not always the order
that they are run...

--
Randem Systems
Your Installation Specialist
The Top Inno Setup Script Generator
http://www.randem.com/innoscript.html
Disk Read Error Press Ctl+Alt+Del to Restart
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The commands export the contents of the [two] registry 'run' keys to
two reg-file outputs, which can then be edited to change the order.

I suppose a simpler approach would be to delete the entry of the
command you want executing last, then, simple re-apply it.

You see, the items in both of these keys may 'look' as if they are
executed alphabetically (in the order they show up in regedit, that
is). But, in actual fact, they execute in the order they were added to
the registry. Ergo the last one entered is also the last one to be
executed!...

However, by editing the two files that will result in running the two
commands that I gave you - you can manipulate the exact order in which
the entries under the "Run" keys are executed.

To repeat, ALL the commands I gave you do is EXPORT the contents of
the two run keys to two files named:

RUN_CU.reg = For the exported CURRENT_USER key.

...and

RUN_LM.reg = For the exported LOCAL_MACHINE key.

Does this answer all of your questions?


==



Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.


More explanations are needed before I try what you are suggesting.
What exactly are the commands you offered supposed to do?

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Randem,
try this out; run these commands from a 'Command
Prompt' window:



regedit /e RUN_CU.REG
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run


regedit /e RUN_LM.REG
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run



(*please note that both of the above commands are one-liners but may
not appear so due to line-wrap)


This will give you two resultant files named RUN_LM.REG and
RUN_CU.REG. Open them both in notepad and you will see that they are
listed in an order different from the simple 'alphabetical' one in
regedit.

This is also the order in which the OS will execute them.

To change the order, edit the command-order in the files to the
order you want them to execute.

Then you must delete the "Run" keys:


HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\CurrentVersion\Run

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\CurrentVersion\Run

...before importing the edited registry files you have just altered.
This will ensure the new-order (not the morbid pop group) is written
to the registry.

To check the new order; type out the first two commands at the
beginning and the new files (the previous files will be overwritten)
should be in the newly edited order.


*NB Randem, I am acquainted with your posts here and know you to be
knowledgeable in the use of registry. To anyone else: editing the
registry in any way can make your computer unusable. Make sure you
are comfortable with what you are doing and always make a backup of
you registry / create a restore point first


==



Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.


I need to control the order of in which the run entries are run.
There is some software that absolutely needs to be run last after
all other entries. How is the [run] section ordered in running? Is
it just a whatever approach or is there an order to this method?
--
Randem Systems
Your Installation Specialist
The Top Inno Setup Script Generator
http://www.randem.com/innoscript.html
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[Tim Meddick]

It is not the place of volunteers, who are professing to advise on PC
issues, to criticize, impugn, or otherwise make personal comments about
those who ask us for our help or their problems.


==


Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.

That's ok. It seems that Windows starts all the programs in the [Run]
Section at the same time so the order that they load depends on which
started first and how long it takes to run as well as how much CPU time
is
taken by the other programs so it is really a crap shoot.

It seems that this software that we are using needs to be the last thing
loaded or it will start shutting down other things such as permissions
etc...

That sounds like a pretty pathetic software design, IF that is indeed the
case (which sounds dubious).

Now if the other apps are running when this app start to shut things
down it can affect the other apps. That is why I need to get it started
last.

I need to control the order of in which the run entries are run.
There
is some software that absolutely needs to be run last after all
other
entries. How is the [run] section ordered in running? Is it just a
whatever approach or is there an order to this method?
--
Randem Systems
Your Installation Specialist
The Top Inno Setup Script Generator
http://www.randem.com/innoscript.html
Disk Read Error Press Ctl+Alt+Del to Restart
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[Tim Meddick]

js,
referring to what?


==


Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.

What make things even more interesting is
that you can always count on the same applications
loading in the same order every time you boot.

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com

Randem,
you pretty much have the same idea of how the list in the
"Run" key works as I have. It does indeed depend on how long it takes to
load a given application in the list. Windows is a virtual-mode
operating system and that means here that the first app on the list may
still be attempting to load while the second has finished and the third
loads. Thus the order is not apparently being adhered to. So that is
why I said that it was probably not for you if it was vital if your app
is executed last and that the 'Startup Delayer' util was a better bet.
But nevertheless, Windows will try load them in the order in which
they were added to the registry as that is how the list is stored in the
registry hive file and that is how they are read. I only ever mentioned
this in the first place because you did ask if the 'list' could be
manipulated - and it can. Re-writing the list order in the way I first
described, does, even so, have a significant effect on the way they are
loaded at boot/logon.
I very much hope that you have a suitable solution to your particular
issue, though.

==


Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.


I need to control the order of in which the run entries are run.
There is some software that absolutely needs to be run last after
all other entries. How is the [run] section ordered in running? Is
it just a whatever approach or is there an order to this method?
--
Randem Systems
Your Installation Specialist
The Top Inno Setup Script Generator
http://www.randem.com/innoscript.html
Disk Read Error Press Ctl+Alt+Del to Restart
http://www.randem.com/discus/messages/9402/9406.html?1236319938

 

[Twayne]

Randem,
try this out; run these commands from a 'Command Prompt'
window:



regedit /e RUN_CU.REG
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run


regedit /e RUN_LM.REG
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run



(*please note that both of the above commands are one-liners but may
not appear so due to line-wrap)


This will give you two resultant files named RUN_LM.REG and
RUN_CU.REG. Open them both in notepad and you will see that they are
listed in an order different from the simple 'alphabetical' one in
regedit.
This is also the order in which the OS will execute them.

To change the order, edit the command-order in the files to the order
you want them to execute.

Then you must delete the "Run" keys:


HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\CurrentVersion\Run

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\CurrentVersion\Run

...before importing the edited registry files you have just altered.
This will ensure the new-order (not the morbid pop group) is written
to the registry.

To check the new order; type out the first two commands at the
beginning and the new files (the previous files will be overwritten)
should be in the newly edited order.


*NB Randem, I am acquainted with your posts here and know you to be
knowledgeable in the use of registry. To anyone else: editing the
registry in any way can make your computer unusable. Make sure you
are comfortable with what you are doing and always make a backup of
you registry / create a restore point first


==



Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.

I need to control the order of in which the run entries are run.
There is some software that absolutely needs to be run last after
all other entries. How is the [run] section ordered in running? Is
it just a whatever approach or is there an order to this method?
--
Randem Systems
Your Installation Specialist
The Top Inno Setup Script Generator
http://www.randem.com/innoscript.html
Disk Read Error Press Ctl+Alt+Del to Restart
http://www.randem.com/discus/messages/9402/9406.html?1236319938

Tim, not saying there's anything wrong with your post, just curious:

Wouldn't it be easier to just set it to delayed start? Meaning, it
won'r run until afrter everything else has finished? That way it can't
even be started until all the other tasks have finished and you'll know
that nothing is left running to be sharing the time with it. It seems
like just changing sequencing in the registry will still let it start
while the other processes etc. are still running (chunking, if you
will).

And natch, it'll likely extend boot time noticeably but that's probably
no big deal to this scenario.

Regards,

Twayne

 

[Twayne]

That's ok. It seems that Windows starts all the programs in the [Run]
Section at the same time so the order that they load depends on which
started first and how long it takes to run as well as how much CPU
time is taken by the other programs so it is really a crap shoot.

It seems that this software that we are using needs to be the last
thing loaded or it will start shutting down other things such as
permissions etc... Now if the other apps are running when this app
start to shut things down it can affect the other apps. That is why I
need to get it started last.

How about running a script to start it? Make it an auto-start item.
That way it won't run until after the boot loads complete? You'd have
to be able to stop it from loading in the registry of course. Hmm,
maybe not; just thinking out loud.
HTH,

Twayne`

I accept it's not what you wanted, if it's as crucial as you say to
have this command executed last, then the utility 'Startup Delayer'
posted by 'js' sounds interesting...

However, you are mistaken when you say that the exported list is
alphabetical; it is not. It may just happen to be that way, by
coincidence, in your own exported list but it is not the case in
actuality.

The exported lists are in the order they were written to the
registry, and, as far as I am aware, it is the same order that
Windows executes them - in the order it reads them.

I am sorry that I could not be of more help to you.

==


Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.

Thanks but that is not what I wanted. I need to know how the order
is determined. I know how to export and edit the registry.

BTW: The way they are show is alphabetical and not always the order
that they are run...

--
Randem Systems
Your Installation Specialist
The Top Inno Setup Script Generator
http://www.randem.com/innoscript.html
Disk Read Error Press Ctl+Alt+Del to Restart
http://www.randem.com/discus/messages/9402/9406.html?1236319938



The commands export the contents of the [two] registry 'run' keys
to two reg-file outputs, which can then be edited to change the
order. I suppose a simpler approach would be to delete the entry of
the
command you want executing last, then, simple re-apply it.

You see, the items in both of these keys may 'look' as if they are
executed alphabetically (in the order they show up in regedit,
that is). But, in actual fact, they execute in the order they were
added to the registry. Ergo the last one entered is also the last
one to be executed!...

However, by editing the two files that will result in running the
two commands that I gave you - you can manipulate the exact order
in which the entries under the "Run" keys are executed.

To repeat, ALL the commands I gave you do is EXPORT the contents
of the two run keys to two files named:

RUN_CU.reg = For the exported CURRENT_USER key.

...and

RUN_LM.reg = For the exported LOCAL_MACHINE key.

Does this answer all of your questions?


==



Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.


More explanations are needed before I try what you are
suggesting. What exactly are the commands you offered supposed to
do? --
Randem Systems
Your Installation Specialist
The Top Inno Setup Script Generator
http://www.randem.com/innoscript.html
Disk Read Error Press Ctl+Alt+Del to Restart
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Randem,
try this out; run these commands from a 'Command
Prompt' window:



regedit /e RUN_CU.REG
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run


regedit /e RUN_LM.REG
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run



(*please note that both of the above commands are one-liners but
may not appear so due to line-wrap)


This will give you two resultant files named RUN_LM.REG and
RUN_CU.REG. Open them both in notepad and you will see that they
are listed in an order different from the simple 'alphabetical'
one in regedit.

This is also the order in which the OS will execute them.

To change the order, edit the command-order in the files to the
order you want them to execute.

Then you must delete the "Run" keys:


HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\CurrentVersion\Run

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\CurrentVersion\Run

...before importing the edited registry files you have just
altered. This will ensure the new-order (not the morbid pop
group) is written to the registry.

To check the new order; type out the first two commands at the
beginning and the new files (the previous files will be
overwritten) should be in the newly edited order.


*NB Randem, I am acquainted with your posts here and know you to
be knowledgeable in the use of registry. To anyone else: editing
the registry in any way can make your computer unusable.
Make sure you are comfortable with what you are doing and always
make a backup of you registry / create a restore point first


==



Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.


I need to control the order of in which the run entries are
run. There is some software that absolutely needs to be run
last after all other entries. How is the [run] section ordered
in running? Is it just a whatever approach or is there an order
to this method? --
Randem Systems
Your Installation Specialist
The Top Inno Setup Script Generator
http://www.randem.com/innoscript.html
Disk Read Error Press Ctl+Alt+Del to Restart
http://www.randem.com/discus/messages/9402/9406.html?1236319938

 

[Tim Meddick]

Twayne,
I profoundly agree with you. This is also what Randem sort of
said earlier. Also, as I have also said, the 'Startup Delayer' proposed by
'js' was a more appropriate solution to Randem's particular problem (see my
other posts in this thread).
Was that what you meant by 'delayed start'? Otherwise I don't think I
have heard of that one, is there a way of doing that in XP alone without a
3rd-party program?


==



Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.

Randem,
try this out; run these commands from a 'Command Prompt'
window:



regedit /e RUN_CU.REG
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run


regedit /e RUN_LM.REG
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run



(*please note that both of the above commands are one-liners but may
not appear so due to line-wrap)


This will give you two resultant files named RUN_LM.REG and
RUN_CU.REG. Open them both in notepad and you will see that they are
listed in an order different from the simple 'alphabetical' one in
regedit.
This is also the order in which the OS will execute them.

To change the order, edit the command-order in the files to the order
you want them to execute.

Then you must delete the "Run" keys:


HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\CurrentVersion\Run

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\CurrentVersion\Run

...before importing the edited registry files you have just altered. This
will ensure the new-order (not the morbid pop group) is written
to the registry.

To check the new order; type out the first two commands at the
beginning and the new files (the previous files will be overwritten)
should be in the newly edited order.


*NB Randem, I am acquainted with your posts here and know you to be
knowledgeable in the use of registry. To anyone else: editing the
registry in any way can make your computer unusable. Make sure you
are comfortable with what you are doing and always make a backup of
you registry / create a restore point first


==



Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.

I need to control the order of in which the run entries are run.
There is some software that absolutely needs to be run last after
all other entries. How is the [run] section ordered in running? Is
it just a whatever approach or is there an order to this method?
--
Randem Systems
Your Installation Specialist
The Top Inno Setup Script Generator
http://www.randem.com/innoscript.html
Disk Read Error Press Ctl+Alt+Del to Restart
http://www.randem.com/discus/messages/9402/9406.html?1236319938

Tim, not saying there's anything wrong with your post, just curious:

Wouldn't it be easier to just set it to delayed start? Meaning, it won'r
run until afrter everything else has finished? That way it can't even be
started until all the other tasks have finished and you'll know that
nothing is left running to be sharing the time with it. It seems like
just changing sequencing in the registry will still let it start while the
other processes etc. are still running (chunking, if you will).

And natch, it'll likely extend boot time noticeably but that's probably no
big deal to this scenario.

Regards,

Twayne

 

[JS]

Taskbar notification area.

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com

js,
referring to what?


==


Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.

What make things even more interesting is
that you can always count on the same applications
loading in the same order every time you boot.

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com

Randem,
you pretty much have the same idea of how the list in the
"Run" key works as I have. It does indeed depend on how long it takes
to load a given application in the list. Windows is a virtual-mode
operating system and that means here that the first app on the list may
still be attempting to load while the second has finished and the third
loads. Thus the order is not apparently being adhered to. So that is
why I said that it was probably not for you if it was vital if your app
is executed last and that the 'Startup Delayer' util was a better bet.
But nevertheless, Windows will try load them in the order in which
they were added to the registry as that is how the list is stored in the
registry hive file and that is how they are read. I only ever mentioned
this in the first place because you did ask if the 'list' could be
manipulated - and it can. Re-writing the list order in the way I first
described, does, even so, have a significant effect on the way they are
loaded at boot/logon.
I very much hope that you have a suitable solution to your particular
issue, though.

==


Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.


I need to control the order of in which the run entries are run.
There is some software that absolutely needs to be run last after
all other entries. How is the [run] section ordered in running? Is
it just a whatever approach or is there an order to this method?
--
Randem Systems
Your Installation Specialist
The Top Inno Setup Script Generator
http://www.randem.com/innoscript.html
Disk Read Error Press Ctl+Alt+Del to Restart
http://www.randem.com/discus/messages/9402/9406.html?1236319938

 

[Tim Meddick]

Twayne,
adding to your thought - you could also 'delay' the command
from executing by inserting a "choice" command with a long timeout on it.
The batch script might look something like this:



@echo off
choice Execute command now /t:y,300
if ERRORLEVEL 2 goto :EOF
command_name_here



....this would give it a 'timeout' of 5 minutes (300 S) and if run as a logon
script, would not be displayed in a dos-box, but run in the background.

==



Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.

That's ok. It seems that Windows starts all the programs in the [Run]
Section at the same time so the order that they load depends on which
started first and how long it takes to run as well as how much CPU
time is taken by the other programs so it is really a crap shoot.

It seems that this software that we are using needs to be the last
thing loaded or it will start shutting down other things such as
permissions etc... Now if the other apps are running when this app
start to shut things down it can affect the other apps. That is why I
need to get it started last.

How about running a script to start it? Make it an auto-start item. That
way it won't run until after the boot loads complete? You'd have to be
able to stop it from loading in the registry of course. Hmm, maybe not;
just thinking out loud.
HTH,

Twayne`

I accept it's not what you wanted, if it's as crucial as you say to
have this command executed last, then the utility 'Startup Delayer'
posted by 'js' sounds interesting...

However, you are mistaken when you say that the exported list is
alphabetical; it is not. It may just happen to be that way, by
coincidence, in your own exported list but it is not the case in
actuality.

The exported lists are in the order they were written to the
registry, and, as far as I am aware, it is the same order that
Windows executes them - in the order it reads them.

I am sorry that I could not be of more help to you.

==


Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.


Thanks but that is not what I wanted. I need to know how the order
is determined. I know how to export and edit the registry.

BTW: The way they are show is alphabetical and not always the order
that they are run...

--
Randem Systems
Your Installation Specialist
The Top Inno Setup Script Generator
http://www.randem.com/innoscript.html
Disk Read Error Press Ctl+Alt+Del to Restart
http://www.randem.com/discus/messages/9402/9406.html?1236319938



The commands export the contents of the [two] registry 'run' keys
to two reg-file outputs, which can then be edited to change the
order. I suppose a simpler approach would be to delete the entry of
the
command you want executing last, then, simple re-apply it.

You see, the items in both of these keys may 'look' as if they are
executed alphabetically (in the order they show up in regedit,
that is). But, in actual fact, they execute in the order they were
added to the registry. Ergo the last one entered is also the last
one to be executed!...

However, by editing the two files that will result in running the
two commands that I gave you - you can manipulate the exact order
in which the entries under the "Run" keys are executed.

To repeat, ALL the commands I gave you do is EXPORT the contents
of the two run keys to two files named:

RUN_CU.reg = For the exported CURRENT_USER key.

...and

RUN_LM.reg = For the exported LOCAL_MACHINE key.

Does this answer all of your questions?


==



Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.


More explanations are needed before I try what you are
suggesting. What exactly are the commands you offered supposed to
do? --
Randem Systems
Your Installation Specialist
The Top Inno Setup Script Generator
http://www.randem.com/innoscript.html
Disk Read Error Press Ctl+Alt+Del to Restart
http://www.randem.com/discus/messages/9402/9406.html?1236319938



Randem,
try this out; run these commands from a 'Command
Prompt' window:



regedit /e RUN_CU.REG
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run


regedit /e RUN_LM.REG
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run



(*please note that both of the above commands are one-liners but
may not appear so due to line-wrap)


This will give you two resultant files named RUN_LM.REG and
RUN_CU.REG. Open them both in notepad and you will see that they
are listed in an order different from the simple 'alphabetical'
one in regedit.

This is also the order in which the OS will execute them.

To change the order, edit the command-order in the files to the
order you want them to execute.

Then you must delete the "Run" keys:


HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\CurrentVersion\Run

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\CurrentVersion\Run

...before importing the edited registry files you have just
altered. This will ensure the new-order (not the morbid pop
group) is written to the registry.

To check the new order; type out the first two commands at the
beginning and the new files (the previous files will be
overwritten) should be in the newly edited order.


*NB Randem, I am acquainted with your posts here and know you to
be knowledgeable in the use of registry. To anyone else: editing
the registry in any way can make your computer unusable.
Make sure you are comfortable with what you are doing and always
make a backup of you registry / create a restore point first


==



Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.


I need to control the order of in which the run entries are
run. There is some software that absolutely needs to be run
last after all other entries. How is the [run] section ordered
in running? Is it just a whatever approach or is there an order
to this method? --
Randem Systems
Your Installation Specialist
The Top Inno Setup Script Generator
http://www.randem.com/innoscript.html
Disk Read Error Press Ctl+Alt+Del to Restart
http://www.randem.com/discus/messages/9402/9406.html?1236319938

 

[Bill in Co.]

Generally, true enough.
But would that also apply to (for example) some Norton products and
automated registry cleaners? I (along with many others here) don't think
so. And we've witnessed the damage.

There are some products that one would be best to stay clear of, and a
product that (allegedly) depends on the [Run] section ordering and the order
in which they load *being only a certain way* (IF that was indeed the case),
sure sounds like a primary candidate. And ditto for the automated one
step registry cleaners, which do more damage than good.

It is not the place of volunteers, who are professing to advise on PC
issues, to criticize, impugn, or otherwise make personal comments about
those who ask us for our help or their problems.


==


Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.

That's ok. It seems that Windows starts all the programs in the [Run]
Section at the same time so the order that they load depends on which
started first and how long it takes to run as well as how much CPU time
is taken by the other programs so it is really a crap shoot.

It seems that this software that we are using needs to be the last thing
loaded or it will start shutting down other things such as permissions
etc...

That sounds like a pretty pathetic software design, IF that is indeed the
case (which sounds dubious).

Now if the other apps are running when this app start to shut things
down it can affect the other apps. That is why I need to get it started
last.

I need to control the order of in which the run entries are run.
There
is some software that absolutely needs to be run last after all
other
entries. How is the [run] section ordered in running? Is it just a
whatever approach or is there an order to this method?
--
Randem Systems
Your Installation Specialist
The Top Inno Setup Script Generator
http://www.randem.com/innoscript.html
Disk Read Error Press Ctl+Alt+Del to Restart
http://www.randem.com/discus/messages/9402/9406.html?1236319938

 

[Tim Meddick]

But you think it is ok to stalk me?


--
The Real Truth http://pcbutts1-therealtruth.blogspot.com/
*WARNING* Do NOT follow any advice given by the people listed below.
They do NOT have the expertise or knowledge to fix your issue. Do not waste
your time.
David H Lipman, Malke, PA Bear, Beauregard T. Shagnasty, Leythos.

It is not the place of volunteers, who are professing to advise on PC
issues, to criticize, impugn, or otherwise make personal comments about
those who ask us for our help or their problems.


==


Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.

That's ok. It seems that Windows starts all the programs in the [Run]
Section at the same time so the order that they load depends on which
started first and how long it takes to run as well as how much CPU time
is
taken by the other programs so it is really a crap shoot.

It seems that this software that we are using needs to be the last thing
loaded or it will start shutting down other things such as permissions
etc...

That sounds like a pretty pathetic software design, IF that is indeed the
case (which sounds dubious).

Now if the other apps are running when this app start to shut things
down it can affect the other apps. That is why I need to get it started
last.

I need to control the order of in which the run entries are run.
There
is some software that absolutely needs to be run last after all
other
entries. How is the [run] section ordered in running? Is it just a
whatever approach or is there an order to this method?
--
Randem Systems
Your Installation Specialist
The Top Inno Setup Script Generator
http://www.randem.com/innoscript.html
Disk Read Error Press Ctl+Alt+Del to Restart
http://www.randem.com/discus/messages/9402/9406.html?1236319938

 

[JS]

Well I haven't looked recently at the registry key(s)
that specifies what runs but it seems to me that if you
collect a list of the program entries in said keys and
then created a script (VBS possibly) and then ran the
script containing in the order you want and the delay
(wait time) between start of the next program in
the script you should be able to get rid of at lease some
of these entries in the registry.

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com

Twayne,
I profoundly agree with you. This is also what Randem sort of
said earlier. Also, as I have also said, the 'Startup Delayer' proposed
by 'js' was a more appropriate solution to Randem's particular problem
(see my other posts in this thread).
Was that what you meant by 'delayed start'? Otherwise I don't think I
have heard of that one, is there a way of doing that in XP alone without a
3rd-party program?


==



Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.

Randem,
try this out; run these commands from a 'Command Prompt'
window:



regedit /e RUN_CU.REG
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run


regedit /e RUN_LM.REG
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run



(*please note that both of the above commands are one-liners but may
not appear so due to line-wrap)


This will give you two resultant files named RUN_LM.REG and
RUN_CU.REG. Open them both in notepad and you will see that they are
listed in an order different from the simple 'alphabetical' one in
regedit.
This is also the order in which the OS will execute them.

To change the order, edit the command-order in the files to the order
you want them to execute.

Then you must delete the "Run" keys:


HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\CurrentVersion\Run

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\CurrentVersion\Run

...before importing the edited registry files you have just altered.
This will ensure the new-order (not the morbid pop group) is written
to the registry.

To check the new order; type out the first two commands at the
beginning and the new files (the previous files will be overwritten)
should be in the newly edited order.


*NB Randem, I am acquainted with your posts here and know you to be
knowledgeable in the use of registry. To anyone else: editing the
registry in any way can make your computer unusable. Make sure you
are comfortable with what you are doing and always make a backup of
you registry / create a restore point first


==



Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.


I need to control the order of in which the run entries are run.
There is some software that absolutely needs to be run last after
all other entries. How is the [run] section ordered in running? Is
it just a whatever approach or is there an order to this method?
--
Randem Systems
Your Installation Specialist
The Top Inno Setup Script Generator
http://www.randem.com/innoscript.html
Disk Read Error Press Ctl+Alt+Del to Restart
http://www.randem.com/discus/messages/9402/9406.html?1236319938

Tim, not saying there's anything wrong with your post, just curious:

Wouldn't it be easier to just set it to delayed start? Meaning, it
won'r run until afrter everything else has finished? That way it can't
even be started until all the other tasks have finished and you'll know
that nothing is left running to be sharing the time with it. It seems
like just changing sequencing in the registry will still let it start
while the other processes etc. are still running (chunking, if you will).

And natch, it'll likely extend boot time noticeably but that's probably
no big deal to this scenario.

Regards,

Twayne

 

[Tim Meddick]

The previous post was not sent by me.

Very, very, very, very funny indeed. Actually, I feel sort of flattered
that you think me worthy of impersonating!

But really, have you got nothing in your life more worthy of your attention
than being here doing this? At best, I think it's sad - very, very sad.

==


Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.

But you think it is ok to stalk me?


--
The Real Truth http://pcbutts1-therealtruth.blogspot.com/
*WARNING* Do NOT follow any advice given by the people listed below.
They do NOT have the expertise or knowledge to fix your issue. Do not
waste your time.
David H Lipman, Malke, PA Bear, Beauregard T. Shagnasty, Leythos.

It is not the place of volunteers, who are professing to advise on PC
issues, to criticize, impugn, or otherwise make personal comments about
those who ask us for our help or their problems.


==


Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.

Randem wrote:
That's ok. It seems that Windows starts all the programs in the [Run]
Section at the same time so the order that they load depends on which
started first and how long it takes to run as well as how much CPU time
is
taken by the other programs so it is really a crap shoot.

It seems that this software that we are using needs to be the last
thing
loaded or it will start shutting down other things such as permissions
etc...

That sounds like a pretty pathetic software design, IF that is indeed
the case (which sounds dubious).

Now if the other apps are running when this app start to shut things
down it can affect the other apps. That is why I need to get it started
last.

I need to control the order of in which the run entries are run.
There
is some software that absolutely needs to be run last after all
other
entries. How is the [run] section ordered in running? Is it just
a
whatever approach or is there an order to this method?
--
Randem Systems
Your Installation Specialist
The Top Inno Setup Script Generator
http://www.randem.com/innoscript.html
Disk Read Error Press Ctl+Alt+Del to Restart
http://www.randem.com/discus/messages/9402/9406.html?1236319938

 

[Tim Meddick]

You mean, the order of the "Run" registry key determining the order that
Taskbar Notification area items are loaded?

==


Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.

Taskbar notification area.

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com

js,
referring to what?


==


Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.

What make things even more interesting is
that you can always count on the same applications
loading in the same order every time you boot.

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



Randem,
you pretty much have the same idea of how the list in the
"Run" key works as I have. It does indeed depend on how long it takes
to load a given application in the list. Windows is a virtual-mode
operating system and that means here that the first app on the list may
still be attempting to load while the second has finished and the third
loads. Thus the order is not apparently being adhered to. So that is
why I said that it was probably not for you if it was vital if your app
is executed last and that the 'Startup Delayer' util was a better bet.
But nevertheless, Windows will try load them in the order in which
they were added to the registry as that is how the list is stored in
the registry hive file and that is how they are read. I only ever
mentioned this in the first place because you did ask if the 'list'
could be manipulated - and it can. Re-writing the list order in the
way I first described, does, even so, have a significant effect on the
way they are loaded at boot/logon.
I very much hope that you have a suitable solution to your
particular issue, though.

==


Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.


I need to control the order of in which the run entries are run.
There is some software that absolutely needs to be run last after
all other entries. How is the [run] section ordered in running?
Is it just a whatever approach or is there an order to this
method?
--
Randem Systems
Your Installation Specialist
The Top Inno Setup Script Generator
http://www.randem.com/innoscript.html
Disk Read Error Press Ctl+Alt+Del to Restart
http://www.randem.com/discus/messages/9402/9406.html?1236319938

 

[Tim Meddick]

It's all down to elegance, I think, in the end. Whether to use the
3rd-party 'Startup Delayer' program or use a batch script, as proposed by
Twayne, that could be extended to load most or all of the contents of the
registry "Run" keys with a timeout (choice.exe, timeout.exe) command
inserted between each.


==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.

Well I haven't looked recently at the registry key(s)
that specifies what runs but it seems to me that if you
collect a list of the program entries in said keys and
then created a script (VBS possibly) and then ran the
script containing in the order you want and the delay
(wait time) between start of the next program in
the script you should be able to get rid of at lease some
of these entries in the registry.

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com

Twayne,
I profoundly agree with you. This is also what Randem sort
of said earlier. Also, as I have also said, the 'Startup Delayer'
proposed by 'js' was a more appropriate solution to Randem's particular
problem (see my other posts in this thread).
Was that what you meant by 'delayed start'? Otherwise I don't think
I have heard of that one, is there a way of doing that in XP alone
without a 3rd-party program?


==



Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.

Tim Meddick wrote:
Randem,
try this out; run these commands from a 'Command Prompt'
window:



regedit /e RUN_CU.REG
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run


regedit /e RUN_LM.REG
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run



(*please note that both of the above commands are one-liners but may
not appear so due to line-wrap)


This will give you two resultant files named RUN_LM.REG and
RUN_CU.REG. Open them both in notepad and you will see that they are
listed in an order different from the simple 'alphabetical' one in
regedit.
This is also the order in which the OS will execute them.

To change the order, edit the command-order in the files to the order
you want them to execute.

Then you must delete the "Run" keys:


HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\CurrentVersion\Run

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\CurrentVersion\Run

...before importing the edited registry files you have just altered.
This will ensure the new-order (not the morbid pop group) is written
to the registry.

To check the new order; type out the first two commands at the
beginning and the new files (the previous files will be overwritten)
should be in the newly edited order.


*NB Randem, I am acquainted with your posts here and know you to be
knowledgeable in the use of registry. To anyone else: editing the
registry in any way can make your computer unusable. Make sure you
are comfortable with what you are doing and always make a backup of
you registry / create a restore point first


==



Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.


I need to control the order of in which the run entries are run.
There is some software that absolutely needs to be run last after
all other entries. How is the [run] section ordered in running? Is
it just a whatever approach or is there an order to this method?
--
Randem Systems
Your Installation Specialist
The Top Inno Setup Script Generator
http://www.randem.com/innoscript.html
Disk Read Error Press Ctl+Alt+Del to Restart
http://www.randem.com/discus/messages/9402/9406.html?1236319938

Tim, not saying there's anything wrong with your post, just curious:

Wouldn't it be easier to just set it to delayed start? Meaning, it
won'r run until afrter everything else has finished? That way it can't
even be started until all the other tasks have finished and you'll know
that nothing is left running to be sharing the time with it. It seems
like just changing sequencing in the registry will still let it start
while the other processes etc. are still running (chunking, if you
will).

And natch, it'll likely extend boot time noticeably but that's probably
no big deal to this scenario.

Regards,

Twayne

 

[Tim Meddick]

That's what happens to idiots who attack me on a regular basis like you've
been doing. You now need to change your name or it will be ruined like
Leythos's is. I was here first the name is mine.


--
The Real Truth http://pcbutts1-therealtruth.blogspot.com/
*WARNING* Do NOT follow any advice given by the people listed below.
They do NOT have the expertise or knowledge to fix your issue. Do not waste
your time.
David H Lipman, Malke, PA Bear, Beauregard T. Shagnasty, Leythos.

The previous post was not sent by me.

Very, very, very, very funny indeed. Actually, I feel sort of flattered
that you think me worthy of impersonating!

But really, have you got nothing in your life more worthy of your
attention than being here doing this? At best, I think it's sad - very,
very sad.

==


Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.

But you think it is ok to stalk me?


--
The Real Truth http://pcbutts1-therealtruth.blogspot.com/
*WARNING* Do NOT follow any advice given by the people listed below.
They do NOT have the expertise or knowledge to fix your issue. Do not
waste your time.
David H Lipman, Malke, PA Bear, Beauregard T. Shagnasty, Leythos.

It is not the place of volunteers, who are professing to advise on PC
issues, to criticize, impugn, or otherwise make personal comments about
those who ask us for our help or their problems.


==


Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.


Randem wrote:
That's ok. It seems that Windows starts all the programs in the [Run]
Section at the same time so the order that they load depends on which
started first and how long it takes to run as well as how much CPU
time is
taken by the other programs so it is really a crap shoot.

It seems that this software that we are using needs to be the last
thing
loaded or it will start shutting down other things such as permissions
etc...

That sounds like a pretty pathetic software design, IF that is indeed
the case (which sounds dubious).

Now if the other apps are running when this app start to shut things
down it can affect the other apps. That is why I need to get it
started
last.


<...clipped...>


I need to control the order of in which the run entries are run.
There
is some software that absolutely needs to be run last after all
other
entries. How is the [run] section ordered in running? Is it just
a
whatever approach or is there an order to this method?
--
Randem Systems
Your Installation Specialist
The Top Inno Setup Script Generator
http://www.randem.com/innoscript.html
Disk Read Error Press Ctl+Alt+Del to Restart
http://www.randem.com/discus/messages/9402/9406.html?1236319938

 

[Tim Meddick]

The previous post was not sent by me.

I have never 'attacked' you. I don't know you. But I will respond to any
underhand behaviour displayed in response to legitimate posts by myself or
anyone I have any respect for. I repeat - how do you defend using other
peoples names? Ha, got you, you can't possible have a legitimate answer to
that because there isn't one. It's just something that you don't do, not
least because it's deceptive and gets people's backs up.


==


Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.

That's what happens to idiots who attack me on a regular basis like you've
been doing. You now need to change your name or it will be ruined like
Leythos's is. I was here first the name is mine.


--
The Real Truth http://pcbutts1-therealtruth.blogspot.com/
*WARNING* Do NOT follow any advice given by the people listed below.
They do NOT have the expertise or knowledge to fix your issue. Do not
waste your time.
David H Lipman, Malke, PA Bear, Beauregard T. Shagnasty, Leythos.

The previous post was not sent by me.

Very, very, very, very funny indeed. Actually, I feel sort of flattered
that you think me worthy of impersonating!

But really, have you got nothing in your life more worthy of your
attention than being here doing this? At best, I think it's sad -
very, very sad.

==


Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.

But you think it is ok to stalk me?


--
The Real Truth http://pcbutts1-therealtruth.blogspot.com/
*WARNING* Do NOT follow any advice given by the people listed below.
They do NOT have the expertise or knowledge to fix your issue. Do not
waste your time.
David H Lipman, Malke, PA Bear, Beauregard T. Shagnasty, Leythos.




It is not the place of volunteers, who are professing to advise on PC
issues, to criticize, impugn, or otherwise make personal comments about
those who ask us for our help or their problems.


==


Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.


Randem wrote:
That's ok. It seems that Windows starts all the programs in the [Run]
Section at the same time so the order that they load depends on which
started first and how long it takes to run as well as how much CPU
time is
taken by the other programs so it is really a crap shoot.

It seems that this software that we are using needs to be the last
thing
loaded or it will start shutting down other things such as
permissions
etc...

That sounds like a pretty pathetic software design, IF that is indeed
the case (which sounds dubious).

Now if the other apps are running when this app start to shut things
down it can affect the other apps. That is why I need to get it
started
last.


<...clipped...>


I need to control the order of in which the run entries are
run. There
is some software that absolutely needs to be run last after all
other
entries. How is the [run] section ordered in running? Is it
just a
whatever approach or is there an order to this method?
--
Randem Systems
Your Installation Specialist
The Top Inno Setup Script Generator
http://www.randem.com/innoscript.html
Disk Read Error Press Ctl+Alt+Del to Restart
http://www.randem.com/discus/messages/9402/9406.html?1236319938

 

[Tim Meddick]

The previous post was not sent by me.

I have never 'attacked' you. I don't know you. But I will respond to any
underhand behaviour displayed in response to legitimate posts by myself or
anyone I have any respect for. I repeat - how do you defend using other
peoples names? Ha, got you, you can't possible have a legitimate answer to
that because there isn't one. It's just something that you don't do, not
least because it's deceptive and gets people's backs up.

==


Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.

That's what happens to idiots who attack me on a regular basis like you've
been doing. You now need to change your name or it will be ruined like
Leythos's is. I was here first the name is mine.


--
The Real Truth http://pcbutts1-therealtruth.blogspot.com/
*WARNING* Do NOT follow any advice given by the people listed below.
They do NOT have the expertise or knowledge to fix your issue. Do not
waste your time.
David H Lipman, Malke, PA Bear, Beauregard T. Shagnasty, Leythos.

The previous post was not sent by me.

Very, very, very, very funny indeed. Actually, I feel sort of flattered
that you think me worthy of impersonating!

But really, have you got nothing in your life more worthy of your
attention than being here doing this? At best, I think it's sad -
very, very sad.

==


Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.

But you think it is ok to stalk me?


--
The Real Truth http://pcbutts1-therealtruth.blogspot.com/
*WARNING* Do NOT follow any advice given by the people listed below.
They do NOT have the expertise or knowledge to fix your issue. Do not
waste your time.
David H Lipman, Malke, PA Bear, Beauregard T. Shagnasty, Leythos.




It is not the place of volunteers, who are professing to advise on PC
issues, to criticize, impugn, or otherwise make personal comments about
those who ask us for our help or their problems.


==


Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.


Randem wrote:
That's ok. It seems that Windows starts all the programs in the [Run]
Section at the same time so the order that they load depends on which
started first and how long it takes to run as well as how much CPU
time is
taken by the other programs so it is really a crap shoot.

It seems that this software that we are using needs to be the last
thing
loaded or it will start shutting down other things such as
permissions
etc...

That sounds like a pretty pathetic software design, IF that is indeed
the case (which sounds dubious).

Now if the other apps are running when this app start to shut things
down it can affect the other apps. That is why I need to get it
started
last.


<...clipped...>


I need to control the order of in which the run entries are
run. There
is some software that absolutely needs to be run last after all
other
entries. How is the [run] section ordered in running? Is it
just a
whatever approach or is there an order to this method?
--
Randem Systems
Your Installation Specialist
The Top Inno Setup Script Generator
http://www.randem.com/innoscript.html
Disk Read Error Press Ctl+Alt+Del to Restart
http://www.randem.com/discus/messages/9402/9406.html?1236319938

 

[Leythos]

You now need to change your name or it will be ruined like
Leythos's is.

And he actually believes that he's harming my name

The group knows that it's him, sees it in his sig and headers, he does
more harm to himself every day. He proves that he's what everyone says
with each post.

 

[Tim Meddick]

The previous post was not sent by me.

The idea that 'Leythos's' standing has been affected in the least part is
laughable in the extreme.


==



Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.

The previous post was not sent by me.

I have never 'attacked' you. I don't know you. But I will respond to any
underhand behaviour displayed in response to legitimate posts by myself or
anyone I have any respect for. I repeat - how do you defend using other
peoples names? Ha, got you, you can't possible have a legitimate answer
to
that because there isn't one. It's just something that you don't do, not
least because it's deceptive and gets people's backs up.

==


Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.

That's what happens to idiots who attack me on a regular basis like
you've been doing. You now need to change your name or it will be ruined
like Leythos's is. I was here first the name is mine.


--
The Real Truth http://pcbutts1-therealtruth.blogspot.com/
*WARNING* Do NOT follow any advice given by the people listed below.
They do NOT have the expertise or knowledge to fix your issue. Do not
waste your time.
David H Lipman, Malke, PA Bear, Beauregard T. Shagnasty, Leythos.

The previous post was not sent by me.

Very, very, very, very funny indeed. Actually, I feel sort of flattered
that you think me worthy of impersonating!

But really, have you got nothing in your life more worthy of your
attention than being here doing this? At best, I think it's sad -
very, very sad.

==


Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.


But you think it is ok to stalk me?


--
The Real Truth http://pcbutts1-therealtruth.blogspot.com/
*WARNING* Do NOT follow any advice given by the people listed below.
They do NOT have the expertise or knowledge to fix your issue. Do not
waste your time.
David H Lipman, Malke, PA Bear, Beauregard T. Shagnasty, Leythos.




It is not the place of volunteers, who are professing to advise on PC
issues, to criticize, impugn, or otherwise make personal comments
about those who ask us for our help or their problems.


==


Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.


Randem wrote:
That's ok. It seems that Windows starts all the programs in the
[Run]
Section at the same time so the order that they load depends on
which
started first and how long it takes to run as well as how much CPU
time is
taken by the other programs so it is really a crap shoot.

It seems that this software that we are using needs to be the last
thing
loaded or it will start shutting down other things such as
permissions
etc...

That sounds like a pretty pathetic software design, IF that is indeed
the case (which sounds dubious).

Now if the other apps are running when this app start to shut things
down it can affect the other apps. That is why I need to get it
started
last.


<...clipped...>


I need to control the order of in which the run entries are
run. There
is some software that absolutely needs to be run last after
all other
entries. How is the [run] section ordered in running? Is it
just a
whatever approach or is there an order to this method?
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[Tim Meddick]

You did too you stupid idiot. Someone named Leythos made a post and you told
everyone it was me, you said my software was bad and stolen and you said
that post was made by me when it was not. Do you want me to quote it for
you?

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your time.
David H Lipman, Malke, PA Bear, Beauregard T. Shagnasty, Leythos.

The previous post was not sent by me.

I have never 'attacked' you. I don't know you. But I will respond to any
underhand behaviour displayed in response to legitimate posts by myself or
anyone I have any respect for. I repeat - how do you defend using other
peoples names? Ha, got you, you can't possible have a legitimate answer
to that because there isn't one. It's just something that you don't do,
not least because it's deceptive and gets people's backs up.


==


Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.

That's what happens to idiots who attack me on a regular basis like
you've been doing. You now need to change your name or it will be ruined
like Leythos's is. I was here first the name is mine.


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*WARNING* Do NOT follow any advice given by the people listed below.
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waste your time.
David H Lipman, Malke, PA Bear, Beauregard T. Shagnasty, Leythos.

The previous post was not sent by me.

Very, very, very, very funny indeed. Actually, I feel sort of flattered
that you think me worthy of impersonating!

But really, have you got nothing in your life more worthy of your
attention than being here doing this? At best, I think it's sad -
very, very sad.

==


Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.


But you think it is ok to stalk me?


--
The Real Truth http://pcbutts1-therealtruth.blogspot.com/
*WARNING* Do NOT follow any advice given by the people listed below.
They do NOT have the expertise or knowledge to fix your issue. Do not
waste your time.
David H Lipman, Malke, PA Bear, Beauregard T. Shagnasty, Leythos.




It is not the place of volunteers, who are professing to advise on PC
issues, to criticize, impugn, or otherwise make personal comments
about those who ask us for our help or their problems.


==


Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.


Randem wrote:
That's ok. It seems that Windows starts all the programs in the
[Run]
Section at the same time so the order that they load depends on
which
started first and how long it takes to run as well as how much CPU
time is
taken by the other programs so it is really a crap shoot.

It seems that this software that we are using needs to be the last
thing
loaded or it will start shutting down other things such as
permissions
etc...

That sounds like a pretty pathetic software design, IF that is indeed
the case (which sounds dubious).

Now if the other apps are running when this app start to shut things
down it can affect the other apps. That is why I need to get it
started
last.


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I need to control the order of in which the run entries are
run. There
is some software that absolutely needs to be run last after
all other
entries. How is the [run] section ordered in running? Is it
just a
whatever approach or is there an order to this method?
--
Randem Systems
Your Installation Specialist
The Top Inno Setup Script Generator
http://www.randem.com/innoscript.html
Disk Read Error Press Ctl+Alt+Del to Restart
http://www.randem.com/discus/messages/9402/9406.html?1236319938