Is there ANY game that will play?


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Guest

I've been trying to load some games - Quake II, Half-Life, Hexen, Heretic...
all those that work fine in 98SE and XP. So far, the only game my Vista Home
Premium will play is a joke on me for thinking I was upgrading!

Out of 19 different programs that ran in XP, only one installed on Vista.
All the rest, after all the 'are you sure' and 'need your permission' popups,
I get anotehr popup that Windoze wants to check with Microsoft to see if
there is a 'solution'.

Does MS intend to fix Vista soon? And would it be quicker if I can see if I
can get my XP machine back from the recycler and use that until the fixes,
patches to the fixes and fixes for the patches and patched patches are out?

Vista won't let me set up a wireless, a printer (tried 3!), network with
other computers that use 98SE, or set up scanners, camera, any 98/XP games
(solitaire works -- woo-woo!) nor can I get rid of all the 'are you sure' and
'need your permission', and other useless popus from Windoze.

No wonder the specs to run Vista are so high - it needs all the dual
processors and ram to cope with the popups!

I started out on a IBM 8 bit XT long before there was colour, and DOS 1.2
and upgraded constantly and, have been duped yet again. Should have kept my
XP machines.

VERY disappointed - again. Bill - get DOS right before you make another OS,
and maybe call the next one Boondoggle!
 
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Guest

You're kidding. I buy a new computer and all this new technology and fancy OS
and I am limited to 1/87th as to what programs, hardware and entertainment I
can put on this miserable excuse for an OS!

That list in the link SHOULD be on every computer that has Vista before the
computer gets past the till - as a WARNING to consumers to hang on to their
working cpomputer befoer investing any money in Vista that does nothing but
drain the bank account - faster mind yoium but drain it non-the-less.
 
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Jonathan Yaniv

Nope, im not kidding. That’s the current list, that other users, have
contributed their own data to it.

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issue to Brian
Boston by emailing (e-mail address removed). If you could please nominate me
for Windows Vista MVP it would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you

Jonathan Yaniv
Windows Live Butterfly Expert
 
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Dale M. White

Ar the main games you play as old as Quake2 and HL ?

I most play all the new games, But I can play CS 1.6, though it's the steam.
version. I can also play Warcraft 3, which is a 1999 game.

Did you try running those games in XP Compat mode ? I don't play many games
that was made before 2000. The ones made after work pretty good. Sorry can't
offer you more help, but a game that's 10 year old, may not be compatibile
 
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Paul Smith

No issues with my software here, even the original Command and Conquer 95
works.

I notice at least three of the games you mention can use OpenGL, have you
tried installing the latest video drivers?

--
Paul Smith,
Yeovil, UK.
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User.
http://www.windowsresource.net/

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Jupiter Jones [MVP]

"That list in the link SHOULD be on every computer..."
Not really.
That is not an official list and there is no official list.
It is not an all inclusive list.
That site has nothing to do with Microsoft.
You certainly can not hold Microsoft or anyone else responsible for any
errors or omissions that may be on that list.

Part of the necessary research someone should do while considering an
operating system upgrade is verify your essential hardware and software
works with the appropriate manufacturer.
 
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Dale \Mad_Murdock\ White

I was able to find my old Quake 2 CD and installed it (under Vista64 no
less) and it ran. I forgot that it came up in 320x200 windows mode, but I
was able to get it to full screen.

Anyone remember how to turn mouselook on ? Man that game is ugly, I remember
when I got my PowerVR card and thought life couldn't get any better.
 
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Dale \Mad_Murdock\ White

I just ran the timedemo and map demo1.dm2 and got 548fps...sweet ! it
actualy plays in like 1.3 secs
 
G

Guest

biggest help I've found so far is telling the installer and the game itself
to run in administrator mode, even if your user account has admin privileges.
the other fix is to give all users full access to the directory that the
game is installed in, as many older games write to the program directory,
which is disallowed by default in vista.
 
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Paul Smith

Anyone remember how to turn mouselook on ?
Mouse look is in the options somewhere, failing that just edit the config
file.
Man that game is ugly, I remember when I got my PowerVR card and thought
life couldn't get any better.
Oh yeah those were the days. I had a machine with 200Mhz Pentium 1 (MMX oh
yeah!)16MB of RAM to play it in, I doubled it to 32MB and wow so smooth.

Then go I got my 3DFX card. :cool:

--
Paul Smith,
Yeovil, UK.
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User.
http://www.windowsresource.net/

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Conor

Shell said:
I've been trying to load some games - Quake II, Half-Life, Hexen, Heretic...
all those that work fine in 98SE and XP. So far, the only game my Vista Home
Premium will play is a joke on me for thinking I was upgrading!

Out of 19 different programs that ran in XP, only one installed on Vista.
All the rest, after all the 'are you sure' and 'need your permission' popups,
I get anotehr popup that Windoze wants to check with Microsoft to see if
there is a 'solution'.

Does MS intend to fix Vista soon?
Vista isn't broken, your graphics drivers are. Why should they support
software that is a decade old?
 
G

Guest

I've spent the better of 6 hours trying to get Diablo II expansion pak to
install on this POS. I somehow whacked my system enough to make it reboot
whenever I click on the useless help and support button (which is actually
neither helpful nor supportive). So silly me, thought I could just do a
system restore, and start over. Apparently this wonderful Vista "Premium"
will only allow me to restore to prior to my LAST attempt. Although it
claims to have restore points daily, I must not be important enough to be
"allowed" to choose a prior point. Best Buy will be getting a call from me
this morning, asking if they can install XP into this computer for me. Not
the greatest, but it was a known quantity, and actually had printers and
progs that would run..
 
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Paul Smith

Fredly said:
I must not be important enough to be
"allowed" to choose a prior point.
Click 'Choose a different restore point' on the very first page of the
wizard.

--
Paul Smith,
Yeovil, UK.
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User.
http://www.windowsresource.net/

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Dale \Mad_Murdock\ White

Actually, it was the "Set Freelook 1" command I needed. No problem google
can can't solve.
 
C

Conor

Fredly said:
I've spent the better of 6 hours trying to get Diablo II expansion pak to
install on this POS. I somehow whacked my system enough to make it reboot
whenever I click on the useless help and support button (which is actually
neither helpful nor supportive). So silly me, thought I could just do a
system restore, and start over. Apparently this wonderful Vista "Premium"
will only allow me to restore to prior to my LAST attempt. Although it
claims to have restore points daily, I must not be important enough to be
"allowed" to choose a prior point. Best Buy will be getting a call from me
this morning, asking if they can install XP into this computer for me. Not
the greatest, but it was a known quantity, and actually had printers and
progs that would run..
Perhaps you'd better get them to put XP back on. You're obviously such
a clueless **** that you missed "Choose a different restore point" that
was there in BIG BLUE LETTERS under the one it displayed.
 
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Conor

Perhaps you'd better get them to put XP back on. You're obviously such
a clueless **** that you missed "Choose a different restore point" that
was there in BIG BLUE LETTERS under the one it displayed.
To add...

TRY READING WHAT IS ON THE ****ING SCREEN before blaming an OS for YOUR
shortfalls.
 
G

Guest

It only gave me one restore piont to choose from, but now I have the option
of undoing the restore point, or keeping it. Ah, choices.... isn't life
grand? Best Buy politely told me I'm screwed, lol
 
J

John Harris

Most games WILL play, but it is unreasonable to expect software developers
like Microsoft, or anyone else, to continue to support software that is
ancient (in tech terms). Ten year old games should not be expected to run on
newest systems. To expect that is being Pollyanna-ish. To support ALL things
for EVERYONE would be unrealistic, and to develop an OS that will would take
more time than what most people are willing to wait for. The you would cry
about that!
 
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Robert Moir

Jupiter said:
Part of the necessary research someone should do while considering an
operating system upgrade is verify your essential hardware and
software works with the appropriate manufacturer.
That's very true and all professionals and people who have been using a
computer since "DOS 1.2" should know that, yet I find that warning oddly
missing in the "Wow" advert I saw the other day, which seems to be targetted
to those people who _can't_ be expected to know better.
 

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