is there a way to smartly access folders?

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cfman

Hi all,

Everyday we have to open and save files documents. Often times we have only
a few folders that we like to use very often.

Today I opened and saved several Excel files, Word files, Visual Basic
files, and a lot other files.

Each time the windows save/open dialog starts from a stupid folder, and I
have to have quite a few clicks up, up, up, then down, down, down, down,
etc. to finally save/open the file at certain specific folders. I've
counted, in several cases, I've clicked 10+ times in order to get to desired
folders... this is very stupid and time-consuming...

Is there an application/software that help me make our everyday file
accessing life more efficient?

Thanks a lot!
 
J

Jon

It cannot be denied that "cfman said:
Hi all,

Everyday we have to open and save files documents. Often times we have
only a few folders that we like to use very often.

Today I opened and saved several Excel files, Word files, Visual Basic
files, and a lot other files.

Each time the windows save/open dialog starts from a stupid folder, and I
have to have quite a few clicks up, up, up, then down, down, down, down,
etc. to finally save/open the file at certain specific folders. I've
counted, in several cases, I've clicked 10+ times in order to get to
desired folders... this is very stupid and time-consuming...

Is there an application/software that help me make our everyday file
accessing life more efficient?

Thanks a lot!

First pasting a directory path from your clipboard to the "File Type" box,
followed by 'Enter' is one way to speed things up.
 
B

Bruce Chambers

cfman said:
Hi all,

Everyday we have to open and save files documents. Often times we have only
a few folders that we like to use very often.

Today I opened and saved several Excel files, Word files, Visual Basic
files, and a lot other files.

Each time the windows save/open dialog starts from a stupid folder, and I
have to have quite a few clicks up, up, up, then down, down, down, down,
etc. to finally save/open the file at certain specific folders. I've
counted, in several cases, I've clicked 10+ times in order to get to desired
folders... this is very stupid and time-consuming...

Is there an application/software that help me make our everyday file
accessing life more efficient?

Why not simply create desktop shortcuts to the folders you open most
frequently?


--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:



They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand Russell
 
D

Donald Lessau

cfman said:
Everyday we have to open and save files documents. Often times we have
only a few folders that we like to use very often.

...

Is there an application/software that help me make our everyday file
accessing life more efficient?

Oh, definitely: you should try XYplorer!

XYplorer is a multi-tabbed file manager featuring a powerful file search,
versatile preview facilities, a highly customizable interface, and an array
of unique ways to efficiently automate frequently recurring tasks.

http://www.xyplorer.com/

Concerning "smart access to folders" let me quote three points from
"XYplorer's usability and efficiency highlights":

Tabbed Browsing: Have an unlimited number of tabs to make jumping around
between folders a one-click affair. Rename the tabs, drag-shift them
around, hide them, lock them, drag-drop stuff onto the tab headers...
the tabs remember their configuration individually and between sessions.

Catalog: Your favorite locations are deep down in some heavily nested
structures? Lift them to the surface! Your current project forces you to
repeatedly ride from one end of your hard disk (or LAN) to the other?
Join them within the flat hierarchy of a Catalog Category, and reduce
their mutual distance to 18 pixels! You can navigate by the Catalog
(finally a one-click favorite solution!) and you can drop stuff onto the
Catalog's items: file management cannot get any cooler!

Hotlist: Ctrl+H pops up the Hotlist, a brand-new interface to your
history, with the intention to present the history in a way that makes
it as easy as possible to quickly go back to one of the places you have
recently been -- as opposed to the traditional presentation of the
history which makes it easy to go back and forth on your recent track.
It is probably the single best usability innovation in file management
since the invention of Tabbed Browsing and the Catalog! If you
experience it once, you'll never want to miss it again...


--Don
 
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Alec S.

Ted Zieglar said:
Golly, do you have a short fuse or what? And do you suppose you posted
to enough newsgroups?

"Office 2000 COM Add-In: Places.exe Available for Download"
http://tinyurl.com/y7yy9d

Similar functionality available in TweakUI
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx


His sarcasm notwithstanding, Ted's suggestion of TweakUI is indeed the easiest way to solve your problem. There is an option in
TweakUI that will allow you to select what folders are listed in the left pane of Open/Save dialog boxes. Not ALL file dialog boxes
will have the pane (particularly those from older programs), but most do. It still won't open automatically to the folder you want
(that's a different function which while possible to do, is not practical) but you can just click once on the folder in the left, so
it's only one click instead of 10+.
 
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cfman

Alec S. said:
His sarcasm notwithstanding, Ted's suggestion of TweakUI is indeed the
easiest way to solve your problem. There is an option in
TweakUI that will allow you to select what folders are listed in the left
pane of Open/Save dialog boxes. Not ALL file dialog boxes
will have the pane (particularly those from older programs), but most do.
It still won't open automatically to the folder you want
(that's a different function which while possible to do, is not practical)
but you can just click once on the folder in the left, so
it's only one click instead of 10+.

Do you believe it? The stupid MS programmer who designed the TWEAKUI should
really be cursed...

The TWEAKUI limits the length of directory path that I can put into the
Common Dialog(the default 5 paths).

Suppose I need a deep path "d:\My Personal
Documents\XXX\YYY\ZZZ\AAA\BBB\CCC\ ... ",

he TWEAKUI only takes the first 20 characters I guess,

Thus it is basically of no use,

not to say it can only allow 5 paths...
 
C

cfman

Donald Lessau said:
Oh, definitely: you should try XYplorer!

XYplorer is a multi-tabbed file manager featuring a powerful file search,
versatile preview facilities, a highly customizable interface, and an
array
of unique ways to efficiently automate frequently recurring tasks.

http://www.xyplorer.com/

Concerning "smart access to folders" let me quote three points from
"XYplorer's usability and efficiency highlights":

Tabbed Browsing: Have an unlimited number of tabs to make jumping around
between folders a one-click affair. Rename the tabs, drag-shift them
around, hide them, lock them, drag-drop stuff onto the tab headers...
the tabs remember their configuration individually and between sessions.

Catalog: Your favorite locations are deep down in some heavily nested
structures? Lift them to the surface! Your current project forces you to
repeatedly ride from one end of your hard disk (or LAN) to the other?
Join them within the flat hierarchy of a Catalog Category, and reduce
their mutual distance to 18 pixels! You can navigate by the Catalog
(finally a one-click favorite solution!) and you can drop stuff onto the
Catalog's items: file management cannot get any cooler!

Hotlist: Ctrl+H pops up the Hotlist, a brand-new interface to your
history, with the intention to present the history in a way that makes
it as easy as possible to quickly go back to one of the places you have
recently been -- as opposed to the traditional presentation of the
history which makes it easy to go back and forth on your recent track.
It is probably the single best usability innovation in file management
since the invention of Tabbed Browsing and the Catalog! If you
experience it once, you'll never want to miss it again...


--Don

I've tried. It did not solve my problem that in any Open/Save dialog window
in any application, I want to save clicks...

But XYplorer does not help Open/Save window...
 
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Alec S.

I've never noticed that. I agree it is silly, but then you just do what it does, but manually. (For the record, despite the length
restriction, I am elated to see that the TweakUI developer had the presence of mind to use expandable strings instead of plain
strings.)

TweakUI is just a GUI front-end for manipulating various registry settings. What you want to do is to create strings (expandable if
required) called "Place0" to "Place4"—unfortunately, only the first five are used—in
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\comdlg32\PlacesBar.

Here's a sample REG file you could use:

REGEDIT4
[-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\comdlg32\PlacesBar]
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\comdlg32\PlacesBar]
;make a couple of simple
"Place0"="C:\Program Files\Some Company\Some Program\Some Thing"
"Place1"="D:\Foo\Bar\Baz"
;make the third one the desktop
"Place2"=dword:00000000
;make the fourth one "%userprofile%\%Blah%\Bloo" (whatever the variables expand to)
"Place3"=hex(2):25,75,73,65,72,70,72,6f,66,69,6c,65,25,5c,25,42,6c,61,68,25,5c,42,6c,6f,6f,00
;no fifth one


HTH
 
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Ayush

Oh.. God, you have posted it everywhere!
I don't know if this is already told but here is a way to do it:
http://www.puppypc.com/windows/rt/comdlg_placebar.htm

--
Ayush [ Be ''?'' Happy ]

For any query, search > www.Google.com
Want to know about a term > http://en.wikipedia.org


: Hi all,
:
: Everyday we have to open and save files documents. Often times we have
only
: a few folders that we like to use very often.
:
: Today I opened and saved several Excel files, Word files, Visual Basic
: files, and a lot other files.
:
: Each time the windows save/open dialog starts from a stupid folder, and I
: have to have quite a few clicks up, up, up, then down, down, down, down,
: etc. to finally save/open the file at certain specific folders. I've
: counted, in several cases, I've clicked 10+ times in order to get to
desired
: folders... this is very stupid and time-consuming...
:
: Is there an application/software that help me make our everyday file
: accessing life more efficient?
:
: Thanks a lot!
:
:
:
 
C

cfman

Alec S. said:
I've never noticed that. I agree it is silly, but then you just do what
it does, but manually. (For the record, despite the length
restriction, I am elated to see that the TweakUI developer had the
presence of mind to use expandable strings instead of plain
strings.)

TweakUI is just a GUI front-end for manipulating various registry
settings. What you want to do is to create strings (expandable if
required) called "Place0" to "Place4"—unfortunately, only the first five
are used—in
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\comdlg32\PlacesBar.

Here's a sample REG file you could use:

REGEDIT4

[-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\comdlg32\PlacesBar]

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\comdlg32\PlacesBar]
;make a couple of simple
"Place0"="C:\Program Files\Some Company\Some Program\Some Thing"
"Place1"="D:\Foo\Bar\Baz"
;make the third one the desktop
"Place2"=dword:00000000
;make the fourth one "%userprofile%\%Blah%\Bloo" (whatever the
variables expand to)

"Place3"=hex(2):25,75,73,65,72,70,72,6f,66,69,6c,65,25,5c,25,42,6c,61,68,25,5c,42,6c,6f,6f,00
;no fifth one


HTH

--
Alec S.
news/alec->synetech/cjb/net



cfman said:
Do you believe it? The stupid MS programmer who designed the TWEAKUI
should
really be cursed...

The TWEAKUI limits the length of directory path that I can put into the
Common Dialog(the default 5 paths).

Suppose I need a deep path "d:\My Personal
Documents\XXX\YYY\ZZZ\AAA\BBB\CCC\ ... ",

he TWEAKUI only takes the first 20 characters I guess,

Thus it is basically of no use,

not to say it can only allow 5 paths...

Unless you tell me there is a way to do this easily...

I don't want to play with registry entries...

It does not make any sense that UITWeak is so stupid and does not allow long
paths...

And limit it to only 5 paths...

This is ridiculously stupid!
 
C

cfman

Ayush said:
Oh.. God, you have posted it everywhere!
I don't know if this is already told but here is a way to do it:
http://www.puppypc.com/windows/rt/comdlg_placebar.htm

--
Ayush [ Be ''?'' Happy ]

For any query, search > www.Google.com
Want to know about a term > http://en.wikipedia.org

Unless you tell me there is a way to do this easily...

I don't want to play with registry entries...

It does not make any sense that UITWeak is so stupid and does not allow long
paths...

And limit it to only 5 paths...

This is ridiculously stupid!
 
A

Alec S.

cfman said:
Alec S. said:
I've never noticed that. I agree it is silly, but then you just do what
it does, but manually. (For the record, despite the length
restriction, I am elated to see that the TweakUI developer had the
presence of mind to use expandable strings instead of plain strings.)

Here's a sample REG file you could use:

REGEDIT4
[-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\comdlg32\PlacesBar]
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\comdlg32\PlacesBar]
;make a couple of simple paths
"Place0"="C:\Program Files\Some Company\Some Program\Some Thing"
"Place1"="D:\Foo\Bar\Baz"

Unless you tell me there is a way to do this easily...

The REG file is very easy.

I don't want to play with registry entries...

What the heck do you think TweakUI does?

It does not make any sense that UITWeak is so stupid and does not allow long paths...

Yes it does. Put in as long a path as you want (well, as long as the file system allows) in the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th, boxes.
Only the first one is missing the flag that allows it to scroll, allowing you to enter a path longer than can be displayed. You can
still enter a long path in the first box though, this will work:
c:\iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii, is that long enough for you? Would you like a
patch to fix the first box? I just made one in about 40 seconds.

And limit it to only 5 paths...

How many do you need? 1,000,000?

This is ridiculously stupid!

You're the first I've heard complain about it. If you don't like it, you certainly don't have to use it; you can program your own,
or commission your own program to be written, or keep searching for an existing one, or…
 
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Alec S.

cfman said:
Unless you tell me there is a way to do this easily...

I don't want to play with registry entries...

It does not make any sense that UITWeak is so stupid and does not allow long
paths...

And limit it to only 5 paths...

This is ridiculously stupid!


Déjà vécu.
 
A

AJR

Alec S - "Amen".

Alec S. said:
cfman said:
Alec S. said:
I've never noticed that. I agree it is silly, but then you just do
what
it does, but manually. (For the record, despite the length
restriction, I am elated to see that the TweakUI developer had the
presence of mind to use expandable strings instead of plain strings.)

Here's a sample REG file you could use:

REGEDIT4
[-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\comdlg32\PlacesBar]
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\comdlg32\PlacesBar]
;make a couple of simple paths
"Place0"="C:\Program Files\Some Company\Some Program\Some Thing"
"Place1"="D:\Foo\Bar\Baz"

Unless you tell me there is a way to do this easily...

The REG file is very easy.

I don't want to play with registry entries...

What the heck do you think TweakUI does?

It does not make any sense that UITWeak is so stupid and does not allow
long paths...

Yes it does. Put in as long a path as you want (well, as long as the file
system allows) in the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th, boxes.
Only the first one is missing the flag that allows it to scroll, allowing
you to enter a path longer than can be displayed. You can
still enter a long path in the first box though, this will work:
c:\iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii,
is that long enough for you? Would you like a
patch to fix the first box? I just made one in about 40 seconds.

And limit it to only 5 paths...

How many do you need? 1,000,000?

This is ridiculously stupid!

You're the first I've heard complain about it. If you don't like it, you
certainly don't have to use it; you can program your own,
or commission your own program to be written, or keep searching for an
existing one, or.
 
A

Ayush

As that web site said
"Registry Shy?!If you're scared of modifying your registry but still want
to customize the default shortcuts in the placesbar then take advantage of
the code generator below."
Use the Code genrator, there is a custom option so that you enter a path
from your PC, use THAT. NOTHING CAN SOLVE YOUR PROBLEM without editing
registry, manually or in a automated way.

--
Ayush [ Be ''?'' Happy ]

For any query, search > www.Google.com
Want to know about a term > http://en.wikipedia.org


:
: "Ayush" <ayushmaan.j[aatt]gmail.com> wrote in message
: : > Oh.. God, you have posted it everywhere!
: > I don't know if this is already told but here is a way to do it:
: > http://www.puppypc.com/windows/rt/comdlg_placebar.htm
: >
: > --
: >> Ayush [ Be ''?'' Happy ]
: >
: > For any query, search > www.Google.com
: > Want to know about a term > http://en.wikipedia.org
: >
: >
:
: Unless you tell me there is a way to do this easily...
:
: I don't want to play with registry entries...
:
: It does not make any sense that UITWeak is so stupid and does not allow
long
: paths...
:
: And limit it to only 5 paths...
:
: This is ridiculously stupid!
:
:
 
A

Alec S.

Ayush said:
As that web site said
"Registry Shy?!If you're scared of modifying your registry but still want
to customize the default shortcuts in the placesbar then take advantage of
the code generator below."
Use the Code genrator, there is a custom option so that you enter a path
from your PC, use THAT.

Maybe cfman is "Registry Anxious" or "Registry Paranoid", rather than "Registry Shy".

NOTHING CAN SOLVE YOUR PROBLEM without editing registry, manually or in a automated way.

That's not true, there are all kinds of solutions; think outside the box (or even inside, just think period). That said, I don't
know of any that are already available, but it's certainly possible to create non-registry-editing solutions; macros/hotkeys, folder
aliases, shell plugins…
 
C

cfman

Alec S. said:
cfman said:
Alec S. said:
I've never noticed that. I agree it is silly, but then you just do
what
it does, but manually. (For the record, despite the length
restriction, I am elated to see that the TweakUI developer had the
presence of mind to use expandable strings instead of plain strings.)

Here's a sample REG file you could use:

REGEDIT4
[-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\comdlg32\PlacesBar]
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\comdlg32\PlacesBar]
;make a couple of simple paths
"Place0"="C:\Program Files\Some Company\Some Program\Some Thing"
"Place1"="D:\Foo\Bar\Baz"

Unless you tell me there is a way to do this easily...

The REG file is very easy.

I don't want to play with registry entries...

What the heck do you think TweakUI does?

It does not make any sense that UITWeak is so stupid and does not allow
long paths...

Yes it does. Put in as long a path as you want (well, as long as the file
system allows) in the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th, boxes.
Only the first one is missing the flag that allows it to scroll, allowing
you to enter a path longer than can be displayed. You can
still enter a long path in the first box though, this will work:
c:\iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii,
is that long enough for you? Would you like a
patch to fix the first box? I just made one in about 40 seconds.

And limit it to only 5 paths...

How many do you need? 1,000,000?


Since you are the man, I would greatly appreciate if you can make it from 5
to 10 to 20.

Thanks a lot and please help me...
 
A

Alec S.

Since you are the man, I would greatly appreciate if you can make it from 5
to 10 to 20.

Thanks a lot and please help me...


That's not possible because Windows does not support more than five. It has nothing to do with TweakUI, the Open/Save dialog is a
special window built into Windows and it only supports five (previous versions of Windows didn't have it at all.) You can test this
by creating keys Place5, Place6, and so on, they have no effect.

Did you manage to fix your initial problem?

--
Alec S.
news/alec->synetech/cjb/net


cfman said:
Alec S. said:
cfman said:
I've never noticed that. I agree it is silly, but then you just do
what
it does, but manually. (For the record, despite the length
restriction, I am elated to see that the TweakUI developer had the
presence of mind to use expandable strings instead of plain strings.)

Here's a sample REG file you could use:

REGEDIT4
[-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\comdlg32\PlacesBar]
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\comdlg32\PlacesBar]
;make a couple of simple paths
"Place0"="C:\Program Files\Some Company\Some Program\Some Thing"
"Place1"="D:\Foo\Bar\Baz"

Unless you tell me there is a way to do this easily...

The REG file is very easy.

I don't want to play with registry entries...

What the heck do you think TweakUI does?

It does not make any sense that UITWeak is so stupid and does not allow
long paths...

Yes it does. Put in as long a path as you want (well, as long as the file
system allows) in the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th, boxes.
Only the first one is missing the flag that allows it to scroll, allowing
you to enter a path longer than can be displayed. You can
still enter a long path in the first box though, this will work:
c:\iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii,
is that long enough for you? Would you like a
patch to fix the first box? I just made one in about 40 seconds.

And limit it to only 5 paths...

How many do you need? 1,000,000?
 

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