Is there a known issue with IE8 causing slow desktop paint/redraw?

[Peter Foldes]

How to uninstall IE8
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/957700/

 

[Carl Duranleau]

I have exactly the same problem here. I got IE8 installed, and then noticed a
very slow desktop painting. I've done exactly the same test as gjpc by moving
a notepad window over the desktop. The redraw in so slow!!!. I then removed
IE8 with the correct uninstall procedure and everything was back to normal. I
then reinstall IE8 because IE7 suffers from an annoying bug making it to
freeze without being able to close it when vieweing some pages with
JavaScript (I got this issue with 3 PCs using IE7). But, again, my desktop is
very slow to repaint. It looks like IE8 adds a layer over the desktop adding
another useless heavy feature. I just done the last Windows Update on IE8
pushing it to release 8.0.6001.18702. The result isn't better because now I
lost my backgound image when I lock the system with WND+L. What a weird idea
to add a layer over the desktop. It looks like the same problem Windows 98
was having with Active Desktop making it very slow.

There must be a way to disable the buggy Active Desktop and get my PC back
to normal!?

 

[Tim Meddick]

To disable Active Desktop from being 'enabled' :

Look at the following settings in the 'Group Policy Editor' ('Start
Menu' > 'Administrative Tools') :


'User configuration' > 'Administrative Templates' > 'Windows Components'

'Windows Explorer' > "Turn on Classic Shell."

....and both of the following :



'User configuration' > 'Administrative Templates' > 'Desktop' > 'Active
Desktop' > "Enable Active Desktop"


....and :


'User configuration' > 'Administrative Templates' > 'Desktop' > 'Active
Desktop' > "Disable Active Desktop"


(..but especially the first setting at the top).


==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.

 

[Shenan Stanley]

I have Windows XP SP3, and I decided to install Internet Explorer 8
last week. It installed fine, and I used it for a week, but my
desktop UI speed had become NOTICEABLY sluggish: when I move
windows around, there would be a white "lag" behind them, similar
to turning on "mouse trails" for your cursor. It acted like I had
disabled video acceleration. Also, YouTube videos were jittery and
my CPU utilization was very high while watching.

Thinking it may have been outdated NVidia drivers, I downloaded and
installed the latest release from NVidia's web site, but the
situation did not improve.

I've searched the web and the newsgroups and cannot find anyone
with a similar problem; I found some people complained about
sluggish WEB PAGES with IE8, but my issue is not that web pages are
slow to load, but specifically it's a problem with my GUI rendering
speed.

Anyway, this morning I uninstalled IE8, rebooted, and now my GUI
speed is back to normal (fast) -- I can move windows around without
trails -- so it is obviously something with Internet Explorer 8.

My system specs:
Dell 400SC
Pentium-4 HT 2.8GHz single core
3 GB memory
NVidia GeForce 7600 GS 512MB AGP 8X, driver version 185.85
Dual LCD monitors
Windows XP SP3 with all high-priority updates

Thoughts? Anyone?

Just for the heck of it...

If in XP, just do this:

Start button --> RUN --> type in:

regsvr32 actxprxy.dll


--. Click OK.

Reboot.


If Vista, you need to open a command prompt as the administrator (run as
administrator) and run the following command:

regsvr32 actxprxy.dll



Reboot.



Help any?

 

[VzzBxx]

Just for the heck of it...

If in XP, just do this:

Start button --> RUN --> type in:

regsvr32 actxprxy.dll


--. Click OK.

Reboot.


If Vista, you need to open a command prompt as the administrator (run as
administrator) and run the following command:

regsvr32 actxprxy.dll



Reboot.



Help any?

This is fix for speeding up IE8 that I already saw at
http://www.edbott.com/weblog/?p=2443.
Bad news - it makes no difference to the desktop paint speed.(well for me
anyway using XP SP3 and IE8.0.6001.18702)

 

[Jeff]

I have exactly the same problem, After uninstalling other updates I finally
uninstalled IE8
and the problem went away. So I guess I will not use IE8 because the
desktop was ridiculously slow!!! Good thing I have other browsers to use,
because if I had to use IE8 I would be quite aggravated!

I have 2.2 GH pentium
Radeon X800
2 GB ram
XP /SP3

The wierd thing is that I have a cheapy deapy laptop from walmart and it
doen't have the problem.

 

[Navyguy]

I have Windows XP SP3, and I decided to install Internet Explorer 8 last
week.  It installed fine, and I used it for a week, but my desktop UI speed
had become NOTICEABLY sluggish: when I move windows around, there would be a
white "lag" behind them, similar to turning on "mouse trails" for your
cursor.  It acted like I had disabled video acceleration.  Also, YouTube
videos were jittery and my CPU utilization was very high while watching.

Thinking it may have been outdated NVidia drivers, I downloaded and
installed the latest release from NVidia's web site, but the situation did
not improve.

I've searched the web and the newsgroups and cannot find anyone with a
similar problem; I found some people complained about sluggish WEB PAGES with
IE8, but my issue is not that web pages are slow to load, but specifically
it's a problem with my GUI rendering speed.

Anyway, this morning I uninstalled IE8, rebooted, and now my GUI speed is
back to normal (fast) -- I can move windows around without trails -- so it is
obviously something with Internet Explorer 8.

My system specs:
Dell 400SC
Pentium-4 HT 2.8GHz single core
3 GB memory
NVidia GeForce 7600 GS 512MB AGP 8X, driver version 185.85
Dual LCD monitors
Windows XP SP3 with all high-priority updates

Thoughts?  Anyone?

Every time I log on here it seems people are having problems with IE8.
It seems like it's not compatible with existing programs or whatever ,
but it clearly seems to have some issues that need to be resolved yet
some seem to have no problem with it?


Robert

 

[Shenan Stanley]

I have Windows XP SP3, and I decided to install Internet Explorer 8
last week. It installed fine, and I used it for a week, but my
desktop UI speed had become NOTICEABLY sluggish: when I move
windows around, there would be a white "lag" behind them, similar
to turning on "mouse trails" for your cursor. It acted like I had
disabled video acceleration. Also, YouTube videos were jittery and
my CPU utilization was very high while watching.

Thinking it may have been outdated NVidia drivers, I downloaded and
installed the latest release from NVidia's web site, but the
situation did not improve.

I've searched the web and the newsgroups and cannot find anyone
with a similar problem; I found some people complained about
sluggish WEB PAGES with IE8, but my issue is not that web pages are
slow to load, but specifically it's a problem with my GUI rendering
speed.

Anyway, this morning I uninstalled IE8, rebooted, and now my GUI
speed is back to normal (fast) -- I can move windows around without
trails -- so it is obviously something with Internet Explorer 8.

My system specs:
Dell 400SC
Pentium-4 HT 2.8GHz single core
3 GB memory
NVidia GeForce 7600 GS 512MB AGP 8X, driver version 185.85
Dual LCD monitors
Windows XP SP3 with all high-priority updates

Thoughts? Anyone?

<snipped>

Every time I log on here it seems people are having problems with
IE8. It seems like it's not compatible with existing programs or
whatever , but it clearly seems to have some issues that need to be
resolved yet some seem to have no problem with it?

Yes.

Exactly the same as going to a hospital. Seems everywhere you look people
are having trouble with this or that, all those medical issues. Yet - if
you go to the supermarket - the medical problems you witness are much less
in number. ;-)

In other words - don't walk into a place setup for people complain and get
assistance with Microsoft updates/Windows XP issues and Internet Explorer
specific issues and then wonder why you you see people complaining about
Microsoft updates/Windows XP issues and Internet Explorer specific issues.
*grin*

I have had no show-stopping issues with Internet Explorer 8 to speak of. I
haven't even personally had the need to use the "Compatibility View"
feature. That's many different banking/credit card/financial sites, many
different academic sites, many different technical subscription and such
sites and so on.

Again - for those having 'issues' with IE8 concerning speed - I suggest:

If in XP, just do this:

Start button --> RUN --> type in:
regsvr32 actxprxy.dll
--> Click OK.

Reboot.


If Vista, you need to open a command prompt as the administrator (run as
administrator) and run the following command:

regsvr32 actxprxy.dll

Reboot.

Help any?

 

[Navyguy]

I have not seen any other posts (or posted bugs) about such behavior.

No-charge support for Internet Explorer 8 installation, set-up and usage
(only) is available via the phone based on your locale through 31 December
2009. Customers must be running Windows XP or Windows Vista in a non-domain
environment.
=> US & CA Residents: 1-866-234-6020
=> Other locales:https://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?&prid=13043

My personal recommendations include:

=> Install IE8 manually, not via Windows Update/Automatic Updates!!

=> Uninstall all third-party toolbars (e.g., Google; Yahoo; Windows Live)
and third-party Windows Themes before installing IE8.

=> Close all open applications (i.e., anything with a taskbar icon) before
installing or uninstalling IE8.

=> I would strongly recommend disabling your anti-virus application andany
anti-spyware application's "system protections" (other than Defender's)
before installing (or uninstalling) an IE upgrade.  If you're running a
third-party firewall, I would recommend disabling it and then enabling the
Windows Firewall before installing (or uninstalling) an IE upgrade.

=> Create a Restore Point manually before installing IE8.  [Do NOT use
System Restore to remove/uninstall IE8; instead, seehttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/957700.  Then use the Restore Point prior to
reinstalling IE8 per these recommendations.  Norton users will need to seehttp://bertk.mvps.org/html/symantecdoc1.html.]

=> Reboot twice after installing or uninstalling IE8.

=> For best chance of success with IE8, make certain that your anti-virus
application, any anti-spyware applications (other than Defender), and your
third-party firewall (if any) are supported in IE8 Final before you decide
install it.

Question(s) if how do we make certain that are anti-virus, anti-
spyware are supported by IE8? Also since you recommend not downloading
it from Windows or Automatic updates where do you recommend?


Robert

 

[Daave]

I have not seen any other posts (or posted bugs) about such behavior.

No-charge support for Internet Explorer 8 installation, set-up and
usage (only) is available via the phone based on your locale through
31 December 2009. Customers must be running Windows XP or Windows
Vista in a non-domain
environment.
=> US & CA Residents: 1-866-234-6020
=> Other
locales:https://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?&prid=13043

My personal recommendations include:

=> Install IE8 manually, not via Windows Update/Automatic Updates!!

=> Uninstall all third-party toolbars (e.g., Google; Yahoo; Windows
Live)
and third-party Windows Themes before installing IE8.

=> Close all open applications (i.e., anything with a taskbar icon)
before
installing or uninstalling IE8.

=> I would strongly recommend disabling your anti-virus application
and any
anti-spyware application's "system protections" (other than
Defender's)
before installing (or uninstalling) an IE upgrade. If you're running
a
third-party firewall, I would recommend disabling it and then
enabling the
Windows Firewall before installing (or uninstalling) an IE upgrade.

=> Create a Restore Point manually before installing IE8. [Do NOT use
System Restore to remove/uninstall IE8; instead,
seehttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/957700. Then use the Restore
Point prior to reinstalling IE8 per these recommendations. Norton
users will need to seehttp://bertk.mvps.org/html/symantecdoc1.html.]

=> Reboot twice after installing or uninstalling IE8.

=> For best chance of success with IE8, make certain that your
anti-virus
application, any anti-spyware applications (other than Defender),
and your
third-party firewall (if any) are supported in IE8 Final before you
decide
install it.

Question(s) if how do we make certain that are anti-virus, anti-
spyware are supported by IE8?

That's a good question. Ordinarily, you would check the documentation
that comes with each program. However, usually what you will find is
which *operating systems* (and service pack levels) are supported.
Googling is a good idea, though; this way, you will see, for instance,
that there is a conflict between Spybot Search & Destroy's Immunization
feature and IE8:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=spybot+ie8&aq=f&oq=&aqi=g2

Also since you recommend not downloading
it from Windows or Automatic updates where do you recommend?

Right here:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...d5-8c3d-4347-8c03-08cdecd8852b&displaylang=en

The file name:

IE8-WindowsXP-x86-ENU.exe

 

[Navyguy]

I have not seen any other posts (or posted bugs) about such behavior.
No-charge support for Internet Explorer 8 installation, set-up and
usage (only) is available via the phone based on your locale through
31 December 2009. Customers must be running Windows XP or Windows
Vista in a non-domain
environment.
=> US & CA Residents: 1-866-234-6020
=> Other
locales:https://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?&prid=13043
My personal recommendations include:
=> Install IE8 manually, not via Windows Update/Automatic Updates!!
=> Uninstall all third-party toolbars (e.g., Google; Yahoo; Windows
Live)
and third-party Windows Themes before installing IE8.
=> Close all open applications (i.e., anything with a taskbar icon)
before
installing or uninstalling IE8.
=> I would strongly recommend disabling your anti-virus application
and any
anti-spyware application's "system protections" (other than
Defender's)
before installing (or uninstalling) an IE upgrade. If you're running
a
third-party firewall, I would recommend disabling it and then
enabling the
Windows Firewall before installing (or uninstalling) an IE upgrade.
=> Create a Restore Point manually before installing IE8. [Do NOT use
System Restore to remove/uninstall IE8; instead,
seehttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/957700. Then use the Restore
Point prior to reinstalling IE8 per these recommendations. Norton
users will need to seehttp://bertk.mvps.org/html/symantecdoc1.html.]
=> Reboot twice after installing or uninstalling IE8.
=> For best chance of success with IE8, make certain that your
anti-virus
application, any anti-spyware applications (other than Defender),
and your
third-party firewall (if any) are supported in IE8 Final before you
decide
install it.

Question(s)  if  how do we make certain that are anti-virus, anti-
spyware are supported by IE8?

That's a good question. Ordinarily, you would check the documentation
that comes with each program. However, usually what you will find is
which *operating systems* (and service pack levels) are supported.
Googling is a good idea, though; this way, you will see, for instance,
that there is a conflict between Spybot Search & Destroy's Immunization
feature and IE8:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=spybot+ie8&aq=f&oq=&aqi=g2

Also since you recommend not downloading
it from Windows or Automatic updates where do you recommend?

Right here:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=341c2ad5-8c3....

The file name:

IE8-WindowsXP-x86-ENU.exe- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

So I cannot use Spybot with IE8? If so, that really sucks.

Robert

 

[Navyguy]

Yes.

Exactly the same as going to a hospital.  Seems everywhere you look people
are having trouble with this or that, all those medical issues.  Yet - if
you go to the supermarket - the medical problems you witness are much less
in number. ;-)

In other words - don't walk into a place setup for people complain and get
assistance with Microsoft updates/Windows XP issues and Internet Explorer
specific issues and then wonder why you you see people complaining about
Microsoft updates/Windows XP issues and Internet Explorer specific issues..
*grin*

I have had no show-stopping issues with Internet Explorer 8 to speak of.  I
haven't even personally had the need to use the "Compatibility View"
feature.  That's many different banking/credit card/financial sites, many
different academic sites, many different technical subscription and such
sites and so on.

Again - for those having 'issues' with IE8 concerning speed - I suggest:

If in XP, just do this:

Start button --> RUN --> type in:
regsvr32 actxprxy.dll
--> Click OK.

Reboot.

If Vista, you need to open a command prompt as the administrator (run as
administrator) and run the following command:

regsvr32 actxprxy.dll

Reboot.

Help any?

You missed my point entirely, even in hospital's they have epidemics
which isn't the norm and that was my point. It seems IE8 has more than
it's share of issues.


Robert

 

[Daave]

I have not seen any other posts (or posted bugs) about such
behavior.

No-charge support for Internet Explorer 8 installation, set-up and
usage (only) is available via the phone based on your locale
through 31 December 2009. Customers must be running Windows XP or
Windows Vista in a non-domain
environment.
=> US & CA Residents: 1-866-234-6020
=> Other
locales:https://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?&prid=13043

My personal recommendations include:

=> Install IE8 manually, not via Windows Update/Automatic Updates!!

=> Uninstall all third-party toolbars (e.g., Google; Yahoo; Windows
Live)
and third-party Windows Themes before installing IE8.

=> Close all open applications (i.e., anything with a taskbar icon)
before
installing or uninstalling IE8.

=> I would strongly recommend disabling your anti-virus application
and any
anti-spyware application's "system protections" (other than
Defender's)
before installing (or uninstalling) an IE upgrade. If you're
running a
third-party firewall, I would recommend disabling it and then
enabling the
Windows Firewall before installing (or uninstalling) an IE upgrade.

=> Create a Restore Point manually before installing IE8. [Do NOT
use System Restore to remove/uninstall IE8; instead,
seehttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/957700. Then use the Restore
Point prior to reinstalling IE8 per these recommendations. Norton
users will need to
seehttp://bertk.mvps.org/html/symantecdoc1.html.]

=> Reboot twice after installing or uninstalling IE8.

=> For best chance of success with IE8, make certain that your
anti-virus
application, any anti-spyware applications (other than Defender),
and your
third-party firewall (if any) are supported in IE8 Final before you
decide
install it.

Question(s) if how do we make certain that are anti-virus, anti-
spyware are supported by IE8?

That's a good question. Ordinarily, you would check the documentation
that comes with each program. However, usually what you will find is
which *operating systems* (and service pack levels) are supported.
Googling is a good idea, though; this way, you will see, for
instance, that there is a conflict between Spybot Search & Destroy's
Immunization feature and IE8:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=spybot+ie8&aq=f&oq=&aqi=g2

Also since you recommend not downloading
it from Windows or Automatic updates where do you recommend?

Right here:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=341c2ad5-8c3...

The file name:

IE8-WindowsXP-x86-ENU.exe- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

So I cannot use Spybot with IE8? If so, that really sucks.

You can still run Spybot. But you won't be able to use its Immunization
feature because it conflicts with IE8's immunization feature.

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

If MS09-019/KB969897 is installed, you should be able to enable Spybot's
Immunizations without affecting IE8 performance.

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

If MS09-019/KB969897 is installed, you should be able to enable Spybot's
Immunizations without affecting IE8 performance.

 

[Daave]

Great news! Thanks, Bear.

If MS09-019/KB969897 is installed, you should be able to enable
Spybot's Immunizations without affecting IE8 performance.

Daave wrote:

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

YW, Daave.

Great news! Thanks, Bear.

 

[Shenan Stanley]

You missed my point entirely, even in hospital's they have epidemics
which isn't the norm and that was my point. It seems IE8 has more
than it's share of issues.

I did not miss it - I believe it is incorrect.

I have been on these newsgroups many years. IE6, IE7 - lots of issues
posted about.

Windows XP, Windows XP SP1/SP1a, Windows XP SP2 and Windows XP SP3 - lots of
issues posted about.

Overall - IE8 is seeing an equal percentage of the questions to everything
else - although there are the normal spikes when the new product comes out.

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

With all due respect, people don't go to hospital Emergency Rooms (or Sick
Bay) if they're not sick or injured. Similarly, users don't post about IE8
problems if IE8's working just fine for them.

<canned>
HOW TO solve IE8 installation problems
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/949220

No-charge support for Internet Explorer 8 installation, set-up and usage
(only) is available via the phone based on your locale through 31 December
2009. Customers must be running Windows XP or Windows Vista in a non-domain
environment.
=> US & CA Residents: 1-866-234-6020
=> Other locales: https://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?&prid=13043

My personal recommendations include:

=> Install IE8 manually, not via Windows Update/Automatic Updates!! =>
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/internet-explorer/worldwide-sites.aspx

NB: Save the installer to your desktop, do not Run it. When you're prepared
to install IE8, double-click on the saved file.

NB: Save the installer to your desktop, do not Run it. When you're prepared
to install IE8, right-click on the saved file and select "Run as
Administator.

=> Uninstall all third-party toolbars (e.g., Google; Yahoo; Windows Live)
and third-party Windows Themes before installing IE8.

=> Close all open applications (i.e., anything with a taskbar icon) before
installing or uninstalling IE8.

=> I would strongly recommend disabling your anti-virus application and any
anti-spyware application's "system protections" (other than Defender's)
before installing (or uninstalling) an IE upgrade. If you're running a
third-party firewall, I would recommend disabling it and then enabling the
Windows Firewall before installing (or uninstalling) an IE upgrade.

=> Create a Restore Point manually before installing IE8. [Do NOT use
System Restore to remove/uninstall IE8; instead, see
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/957700. Then use the Restore Point prior to
reinstalling IE8 per these recommendations. Norton users will need to see
http://bertk.mvps.org/html/symantecdoc1.html.]

=> Reboot twice after installing or uninstalling IE8, then check-in at
Windows Update and install any critical security updates offered.

=> For best chance of success with IE8, make certain that your anti-virus
application, any anti-spyware applications (other than Defender), and your
third-party firewall (if any) are supported in IE8 Final before you decide
install it.
</canned>
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002


Navyguy wrote:

 

[Harry Johnston [MVP]]

Overall - IE8 is seeing an equal percentage of the questions to everything
else - although there are the normal spikes when the new product comes out.

To expand on this a little, there are several reasons we see problem spikes when
a new product comes out:

Firstly, the product may turn out to be incompatible with other software out
there, usually though not always third-party security software.

Secondly, there are usually lots of people whose systems already have problems
that they don't know about. Any time new software is installed there is a
chance these problems will develop more obvious (or even disastrous) symptoms.

Thirdly, any product is bound to have some undiscovered bugs in it, a portion of
which will show up soon after release.

The third reason is the most obvious, but in my experience it is usually the
least significant.

Harry.