is Outlook Express being dropped ?

[Fred]

PA Bear
Only to try MSO.
Fred


--


"A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough
to take everything you have."
Thomas Jefferson

 

[Anthony Buckland]

Not in existing products. Outlook Express became Windows Mail in
Windows Vista. Windows Seven may not ship with a native mail app.
In that OS mail support may be available as a downloaded of a mail
client app such as Windows Live Mail or Thunderbird.
...

I assume that Microsoft does not want a civil war, and
will therefore provide _something_ (or access to
something) that will accept OE format mail folders.

 

[john f]

Apparently it has already been dropped. Too bad. I like it a lot. OE is
certainly better than Live Mail. I'm going to hang on to it as long as
possible

Why does Microsoft discontinue excellent software ? I realize they need new
sources of revenue to keep going. But I would rather pay to maintain OE and
XP and WMP than be forced to switch and pay for newer inferior updates.

Perhaps Microsoft could sunset their software after a period of several
years to give consumers the option of switching to their newer (inferior)
versions or keeping what they already have (and like).

Just a thought. John F

 

[Mike Torello]

Why does Microsoft discontinue excellent software ?

I absolutely loved the Studebaker Hawk.

I wonder why they discontinued it?

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

Apparently it has already been dropped. Too bad. I like it a lot. OE is
certainly better than Live Mail. I'm going to hang on to it as long as
possible

It has *not* been dropped. Outlook Express still exists in Windows
Vista; it's simply that in its latest version, the one that comes with
Vista, Microsoft changed its name from Outlook Express to Windows
Mail.

Changing its name was good, since the old name resulted in many people
confusing Outlook Express with Outlook, a very different program.
Unfortunately, however, the new name isn't particularly good either,
since now people are confusing Windows Mail with Windows Live Mail.

 

[Bob]

Will Microsoft Mail be carried over to the new version of Windows 7
Thanks
Bob

 

[Alias]

Will Microsoft Mail be carried over to the new version of Windows 7
Thanks
Bob

No one knows for sure but it seems that Win 7 won't have an email
program or a browser. That is, anyway, if they want to sell Windows in
the EU.

Alias

Alias

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

Will Microsoft Mail be carried over to the new version of Windows 7


No.

 

[Bill in Co.]

Prusumably there will at least be something then, in its place?

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

Prusumably there will at least be something then, in its place?

I don't pretend on be an expert on Windows 7 (I haven't even see it
yet), but my understanding is that no, there won't be. I believe it
will ship without a built-in E-mail client or newsreader.

That apparently bothers a lot of people, but not me. I think that not
having application software such as an E-mail client or newsreader
built into Windows is a good thing, not a bad one. That lets everyone
choose the particular applications that they prefer.

 

[Richard in AZ]

| On Sat, 07 Feb 2009 13:09:38 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
|
| >On Sat, 7 Feb 2009 12:48:08 -0700, "Bill in Co."
| >
| >> Prusumably there will at least be something then, in its place?
| >
| >
| >I don't pretend on be an expert on Windows 7 (I haven't even see it
| >yet), but my understanding is that no, there won't be. I believe it
| >will ship without a built-in E-mail client or newsreader.
| >
| >That apparently bothers a lot of people, but not me. I think that not
| >having application software such as an E-mail client or newsreader
| >built into Windows is a good thing, not a bad one. That lets everyone
| >choose the particular applications that they prefer.
|
| Now if they would ship with no browser (USA), we would be all set.

Interesting: Without a browser, you could not even go online to download one of the OpenSourse
browsers.
You would have to buy a disk or use a computer with a built-in browser.
If you read some of the DUMB questions posted on these newsgroups, those extra steps would eliminate
a lot of internet users.

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

At this point, no.

cf. http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10048142-56.html

[Actually, Windows Mail is present in Win7 Beta 1 but it's not active nor
are there the necessary Registry keys to run/use it.]

 

[Mike Torello]

You're terrible

"Richard" didn't actually SAY that not having a lot of those users on
the 'net would be a GOOD thing. In case he didn't mean that, I'll say
it.

 

[Bob I]

| On Sat, 07 Feb 2009 13:09:38 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
|
| >On Sat, 7 Feb 2009 12:48:08 -0700, "Bill in Co."
| >
| >> Prusumably there will at least be something then, in its place?
| >
| >
| >I don't pretend on be an expert on Windows 7 (I haven't even see it
| >yet), but my understanding is that no, there won't be. I believe it
| >will ship without a built-in E-mail client or newsreader.
| >
| >That apparently bothers a lot of people, but not me. I think that not
| >having application software such as an E-mail client or newsreader
| >built into Windows is a good thing, not a bad one. That lets everyone
| >choose the particular applications that they prefer.
|
| Now if they would ship with no browser (USA), we would be all set.

Interesting: Without a browser, you could not even go online to download one of the OpenSourse
browsers.
You would have to buy a disk or use a computer with a built-in browser.
If you read some of the DUMB questions posted on these newsgroups, those extra steps would eliminate
a lot of internet users.

Yep that sounds exactly like what the EU wants Microsoft to ship.

 

[Alias]

| On Sat, 07 Feb 2009 13:09:38 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
|
| >On Sat, 7 Feb 2009 12:48:08 -0700, "Bill in Co."
| >
| >> Prusumably there will at least be something then, in its place?
| >
| >
| >I don't pretend on be an expert on Windows 7 (I haven't even see it
| >yet), but my understanding is that no, there won't be. I believe it
| >will ship without a built-in E-mail client or newsreader.
| >
| >That apparently bothers a lot of people, but not me. I think that not
| >having application software such as an E-mail client or newsreader
| >built into Windows is a good thing, not a bad one. That lets everyone
| >choose the particular applications that they prefer.
|
| Now if they would ship with no browser (USA), we would be all set.

Interesting: Without a browser, you could not even go online to download one of the OpenSourse
browsers.
You would have to buy a disk or use a computer with a built-in browser.
If you read some of the DUMB questions posted on these newsgroups, those extra steps would eliminate
a lot of internet users.

Gosh, what an ordeal it would be to download the set up for Firefox,
Opera, Chrome, etc. and put it on a pen drive. Gosh, just the thought
makes me tired.

Alias

 

[Frank Slootweg]

| On Sat, 07 Feb 2009 13:09:38 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
|
| >On Sat, 7 Feb 2009 12:48:08 -0700, "Bill in Co."
| >
| >> Prusumably there will at least be something then, in its place?
| >
| >I don't pretend on be an expert on Windows 7 (I haven't even see it
| >yet), but my understanding is that no, there won't be. I believe it
| >will ship without a built-in E-mail client or newsreader.
| >
| >That apparently bothers a lot of people, but not me. I think that not
| >having application software such as an E-mail client or newsreader
| >built into Windows is a good thing, not a bad one. That lets everyone
| >choose the particular applications that they prefer.
|
| Now if they would ship with no browser (USA), we would be all set.

Interesting: Without a browser, you could not even go online to
download one of the OpenSourse browsers.
You would have to buy a disk or use a computer with a built-in
browser. If you read some of the DUMB questions posted on these
newsgroups, those extra steps would eliminate a lot of internet users.

MS could just offer the (IE) download as a Desktop shortcut or some
such, i.e. like is done now for other stuff. I.e. Neelie can perhaps
prevent that MS *ships* Windows(7) *with* IE, but I don't think she can
prevent *offering* a *download*.

Anyway, there's laways telnet, isn't there!