Is my computer really overheating? Should I drop the CPU Speed down?

D

David Mills

I changed my CPU Speed setting in my BIOS from 100/100 to 133/133.
After changing it, I ran that SiSoft Sandra utilty and it said my CPU
speed had increased from 1.0 GHZ to 1.47 GHZ...........!!!! Amazing.
My CPU is an AMD Athlon XP 1100 by the way.

Then, 2 days later, I decided to run it again and it reported that my
CPU Temperature was to high.
It said that the max temp for my cpu is 50 degrees Celcius and my
current temperature was 51 degrees.
So, I dropped it from 133/133 to 100/133 and my cpu speed dropped back
down but my temperature dropped down also.

So I did some research and found this site that said my max cpu speed
is like 90 degrees celcius.
http://www.heatsink-guide.com/maxtemp.htm

Then, I did some more looking and found this product right here for
AMD processors that supposedly cools them down.
Do I need something like this or am I overreacting?
http://www.pcpowercooling.com/prices/index.htm

By the way, when I ran the Sandra utility and noticed that my CPU
temperature was too hot, I had just finished burning 3 DVD's in a row.
Could that have something to do with it?

I ran this AIDA32 utitlity right after Sandra and it reports my Temp
are being about 10 degrees less????

Anyways, I though I would ask your guys opinions on this because I
know you know what your are talking about and I am lost.
I would really like to keep the speed I gained at 133/133 but I don't
want to damage my PC.

What should I do?

Thanks.
 
O

OZoNE

David Mills said:
I changed my CPU Speed setting in my BIOS from 100/100 to 133/133.
After changing it, I ran that SiSoft Sandra utilty and it said my CPU
speed had increased from 1.0 GHZ to 1.47 GHZ...........!!!! Amazing.
My CPU is an AMD Athlon XP 1100 by the way.

Then, 2 days later, I decided to run it again and it reported that my
CPU Temperature was to high.
It said that the max temp for my cpu is 50 degrees Celcius and my
current temperature was 51 degrees.
So, I dropped it from 133/133 to 100/133 and my cpu speed dropped back
down but my temperature dropped down also.

So I did some research and found this site that said my max cpu speed
is like 90 degrees celcius.
http://www.heatsink-guide.com/maxtemp.htm

Then, I did some more looking and found this product right here for
AMD processors that supposedly cools them down.
Do I need something like this or am I overreacting?
http://www.pcpowercooling.com/prices/index.htm

By the way, when I ran the Sandra utility and noticed that my CPU
temperature was too hot, I had just finished burning 3 DVD's in a row.
Could that have something to do with it?

I ran this AIDA32 utitlity right after Sandra and it reports my Temp
are being about 10 degrees less????

Anyways, I though I would ask your guys opinions on this because I
know you know what your are talking about and I am lost.
I would really like to keep the speed I gained at 133/133 but I don't
want to damage my PC.

What should I do?

Thanks.
I run my cpu at 2300Mhz (1733 factory speed) with a loaded temp of 56c while
crankin out on games like q3a/sofII etc
51 under load is a decent temp
dont worry and ignore sandra and its BS.
OZoNE
 
A

Amethyst

David said:
I changed my CPU Speed setting in my BIOS from 100/100 to 133/133.
After changing it, I ran that SiSoft Sandra utilty and it said my CPU
speed had increased from 1.0 GHZ to 1.47 GHZ...........!!!! Amazing.
My CPU is an AMD Athlon XP 1100 by the way.

Then, 2 days later, I decided to run it again and it reported that my
CPU Temperature was to high.
It said that the max temp for my cpu is 50 degrees Celcius and my
current temperature was 51 degrees.
So, I dropped it from 133/133 to 100/133 and my cpu speed dropped back
down but my temperature dropped down also.

So I did some research and found this site that said my max cpu speed
is like 90 degrees celcius.
http://www.heatsink-guide.com/maxtemp.htm

Then, I did some more looking and found this product right here for
AMD processors that supposedly cools them down.
Do I need something like this or am I overreacting?
http://www.pcpowercooling.com/prices/index.htm

By the way, when I ran the Sandra utility and noticed that my CPU
temperature was too hot, I had just finished burning 3 DVD's in a row.
Could that have something to do with it?

I ran this AIDA32 utitlity right after Sandra and it reports my Temp
are being about 10 degrees less????

Anyways, I though I would ask your guys opinions on this because I
know you know what your are talking about and I am lost.
I would really like to keep the speed I gained at 133/133 but I don't
want to damage my PC.

What should I do?

Thanks.


As AMD has never made an 1100+ CPU, then you've either got a Tbird or you
have a 1500+ over clocked to a 1700+.
--
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Too!'

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N

Novice

If you are really concerned about you CPU heat (concerned
enough to drop a couple bucks), then you might want to buy
a better CPU cooling fan and/or some thermal grease. But
your CPU is currently running at a comfortable speed and
heat. You don't need to worry much.
 
B

Bob Knowlden

You don't use the term "overclocking", but surely you've come across it in
your research. Include it in Google or Google Groups searches, and you'll
get more information than you want. Also see www.overclockers.com, the
forums at www.asusboards.com (not limited to Asus products), or the
newsgroup alt.comp.hardware.overclocking.

You need a temperature monitoring utility that updates continuously. One may
be available for free download from the make of the mainboard in your PC (I
use Asusprobe), or the free Motherboard Monitor
(http://mbm.livewiredev.com/ ) is good. (Some people complain that it's too
hard to configure, but I think it's not that bad.)

A higher-performance heatsink/fan might be a good idea to get reliable
overclocking. (To some, "reliable overclocking" is an oxymoron.) I suggest
using heatsink compound to install it, rather than a thermal pad. ("Heatsink
compound" = "thermal grease".)

Before you make a modest investment in Arctic Silver compound -
www.arcticsilver.com - check whether AMD recommends it. Arctic Silver is not
a good electrical insulator. Actually, if applied correctly, I believe that
there's little to choose from among the various compounds. Heatsink compound
is Zen-like: it works best when it's essentially at zero thickness. If you
buy a third-party heatsink/fan, it may include a small syringe of heatsink
compound, which ought to work fine. I recently bought a tube of Arctic
Alumina; it seems to work no better than Radio Shack's finest zinc oxide
filled silicone goop. (The Arctic Alumina cost about $4, so my buyer's
remorse is small.)

Overclocking is a hobby, all in itself. You can spend a great deal of time
and money avoiding buying a more expensive CPU. ;-)

Have fun.

Bob Knowlden

Spam dodger may be in use. Replace nkbob with bobkn.
 
A

Amethyst

Ed said:
Maybe a Morgan Duron?


That's a good point, Ed, but they're not referred to using the same
terminology as Athlons.
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Too!'

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E

Ed Light

Amethyst said:
That's a good point, Ed, but they're not referred to using the same
terminology as Athlons.

I know, but somebody could subconsciously or assumingly add the "+".
 
E

Ed Light

tonyk said:
and it would be, and he cranks the fsb from 100 to 133, he should be
running right around 1.4gz.

In the slightly dated (doesn't know about xp b models below the 2400) *Book
of Overclocking*, it says:

Athlon Thunderbird 1100. fsb 100. multiplier 11x. core voltage 1.75v.
Unlocked multiplier. typical multiplier o/c 12-14x. typcial fsb o/c
103-115+. typical o/c potential 1200-1300 mhz. maximum o/c potential 1300
mhz. maximum core voltage 1.85v with heatsink cooler.
 
W

Wes Newell

In the slightly dated (doesn't know about xp b models below the 2400)
*Book of Overclocking*, it says:

Athlon Thunderbird 1100. fsb 100. multiplier 11x. core voltage 1.75v.
Unlocked multiplier. typical multiplier o/c 12-14x. typcial fsb o/c
103-115+. typical o/c potential 1200-1300 mhz. maximum o/c potential 1300
mhz. maximum core voltage 1.85v with heatsink cooler.

I don't know who wrote it, but whoever it was, was full of it on the
overclocking part.:)
 
P

Paul

*Edited for content ;)*
Dear Card Carrying Bitch,
I don't understand why you post. Too often you are rude
and not helpful at all

Here's what I mean:
-Lines marked with an * are part of the original post.
-My comments are in brackets

*felix figueroa wrote:
*> I was just wondering what the blue hilighted text meant
*> when im looking in my folders...recently modified?
*
*
*It means that, in the time it took you to compose this
post you could have
*searched the group and found your answer.

(WTF is your problem, if he wants to post, then that's
his choice. I WOULD agree with you, if I had seen this
question repeadily posted)


*William wrote:
*> You probably registered your copy but did not activate,
*> it is two different things, maybe you should just give
it
*> a try and activate or activate again, otherwise contact
*> microsoft.
*
*Err, no. If she had merely registered, but not
activated, then she would not
*receive an "already activated" message. She is not
seeing the activation
*box, so how can she activate. Do you actually read
questions before
*responding, or do you just post the first thing that
pops into your head?

(Talk about being b***hy)


*Rat Garton wrote:
*> when I go on line no matter ware after I have finished
and wish to
*> close down I can not I have use windows task manager
and that
*> struggles to close it down any I deas to solve this
prob I am a
*> complete novice so if you can help please try to keep
it simple ty
*
*
*Please come back after you have attended those remedial
English classes
*especially the ones dealing with sentence construction
and punctuation. I am
*not even going to bother to decipher that until you
insert some proper
*punctuation.

(You may have a point, but if you're not going to answer
his question, then don't post. Let the people who will
spend the 5 seconds to try to understand what he's saying
help him)


*Linda wrote:
*> have upgraded msn messenger and cant get it to work,
nor
*> my old version. Also my system restore will not work
in
*> XP. Any advice?
*
*Please read http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm and learn
how to submit a good
*post. When you have read it, follow the advice and post
back.

(Once again, if you're not going to answer her question,
then don't post. Let the people who will spend the 5
seconds to try to understand what she's saying help her)


*Bruce Chambers wrote:
*> Greetings --
*>
*> Sure. Rename or delete the C:\Boot.ini file, and
the PC will have
*> problems booting. This is what you want to happen, or
else you
*> wouldn't have asked, right?
*>
*> Bruce Chambers
*>
*> Help us help you:
*>
*>
*> ----
*> You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't
ever count on
*> having both at once. -- RAH
*
*I guess I should stop being surprised at how stupid some
people can be, eh?
*;o)

(Oh you can both go f**k yourselfs. The man was confused
about what this file was. Last time i checked, these
groups were for people with questions about a Microsoft
product or service)


*Rajesh K m wrote:
*> Hi,
*> Kindly feed me with answers for the following
questions.
*>
*> How many monitors can you connect to Windows XP Home
*> Edition at a time?
*>
*> What function of Windows XP Home Edition helps serve
*> broadband connection to be shared over the internet?
*>
*> What feature of Windows XP Home Edition help share
*> Internet connection over two or more PC?
*>
*> What is an analog USB audio/video capture device
called in
*> Windows XP Home Edition?
*>
*> Which feature in Windows XP Home Edition greatly
improves
*> the reliability of the system?
*>
*> Please reply me as soon as possible at
*> (e-mail address removed)
*> Thanks
*
*
*These groups are for people with real problems, not lazy
pubescents wanting
*someone to do their IT homework for them. Do the
research yourself you lazy
*cretin!

(As you like to say, 'err no', these groups are for
people with any questions about a Microsoft product or
service, regardless of severity. Maybe if YOU weren't so
lazy, you would help him.)



THE FOLLOWING ONE WAS BY FAR THE RUDEST:

*Jonathan Kay [MVP] wrote:
*> Greetings Alan,
*>
*> Instead of choosing just Stop, in that window,
select "Messenger",
*> right-click and then choose Properties. Under startup
type, choose
*> 'Disabled' and then choose the 'Stop' button. After
the service is
*stopped,
*> click OK.
*>
*> After this, you won't need to stop it at every reboot.
*> ____________________________________________
*> Jonathan Kay
*> Windows MVP, Messenger
*> Associate Expert
*> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
*> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
*>
*> *>> To stop the new brand of pop ups,such as those from
end
*>> ads.com. Go to control panel, open admin tools , then
*>> click on services- scroll down thru the list to
*>> messenger ,right click and select-STOP.This disables
the
*>> service,-not sure if u have to do this everytime u
boot
*>> up. Don t seem to be any adverse side effects but if u
*>> have trouble with any other services try re enabling
*>> messenger.Good luck!!
*
*Still peddling the same old tripe I see. You can't teach
kids anything these
*days.

(Hey b***h, at least he helps many people, and POLITELY)


AND BELIEVE ME, THERE WERE MANY MORE!

So join hands and call out, "Get the d**do out of your
a** Cass"

And i will continue to post these messages untill you publicly apologize to
the people you have offended.
 
A

Amethyst

Paul said:
*Edited for content ;)*
Dear Card Carrying Bitch,
I don't understand why you post. Too often you are rude
and not helpful at all

Here's what I mean:
-Lines marked with an * are part of the original post.
-My comments are in brackets

*felix figueroa wrote:
*> I was just wondering what the blue hilighted text meant
*> when im looking in my folders...recently modified?
*
*
*It means that, in the time it took you to compose this
post you could have
*searched the group and found your answer.

(WTF is your problem, if he wants to post, then that's
his choice. I WOULD agree with you, if I had seen this
question repeadily posted)


*William wrote:
*> You probably registered your copy but did not activate,
*> it is two different things, maybe you should just give
it
*> a try and activate or activate again, otherwise contact
*> microsoft.
*
*Err, no. If she had merely registered, but not
activated, then she would not
*receive an "already activated" message. She is not
seeing the activation
*box, so how can she activate. Do you actually read
questions before
*responding, or do you just post the first thing that
pops into your head?

(Talk about being b***hy)


*Rat Garton wrote:
*> when I go on line no matter ware after I have finished
and wish to
*> close down I can not I have use windows task manager
and that
*> struggles to close it down any I deas to solve this
prob I am a
*> complete novice so if you can help please try to keep
it simple ty
*
*
*Please come back after you have attended those remedial
English classes
*especially the ones dealing with sentence construction
and punctuation. I am
*not even going to bother to decipher that until you
insert some proper
*punctuation.

(You may have a point, but if you're not going to answer
his question, then don't post. Let the people who will
spend the 5 seconds to try to understand what he's saying
help him)


*Linda wrote:
*> have upgraded msn messenger and cant get it to work,
nor
*> my old version. Also my system restore will not work
in
*> XP. Any advice?
*
*Please read http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm and learn
how to submit a good
*post. When you have read it, follow the advice and post
back.

(Once again, if you're not going to answer her question,
then don't post. Let the people who will spend the 5
seconds to try to understand what she's saying help her)


*Bruce Chambers wrote:
*> Greetings --
*>
*> Sure. Rename or delete the C:\Boot.ini file, and
the PC will have
*> problems booting. This is what you want to happen, or
else you
*> wouldn't have asked, right?
*>
*> Bruce Chambers
*>
*> Help us help you:
*>
*>
*> ----
*> You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't
ever count on
*> having both at once. -- RAH
*
*I guess I should stop being surprised at how stupid some
people can be, eh?
*;o)

(Oh you can both go f**k yourselfs. The man was confused
about what this file was. Last time i checked, these
groups were for people with questions about a Microsoft
product or service)


*Rajesh K m wrote:
*> Hi,
*> Kindly feed me with answers for the following
questions.
*>
*> How many monitors can you connect to Windows XP Home
*> Edition at a time?
*>
*> What function of Windows XP Home Edition helps serve
*> broadband connection to be shared over the internet?
*>
*> What feature of Windows XP Home Edition help share
*> Internet connection over two or more PC?
*>
*> What is an analog USB audio/video capture device
called in
*> Windows XP Home Edition?
*>
*> Which feature in Windows XP Home Edition greatly
improves
*> the reliability of the system?
*>
*> Please reply me as soon as possible at
*> (e-mail address removed)
*> Thanks
*
*
*These groups are for people with real problems, not lazy
pubescents wanting
*someone to do their IT homework for them. Do the
research yourself you lazy
*cretin!

(As you like to say, 'err no', these groups are for
people with any questions about a Microsoft product or
service, regardless of severity. Maybe if YOU weren't so
lazy, you would help him.)



THE FOLLOWING ONE WAS BY FAR THE RUDEST:

*Jonathan Kay [MVP] wrote:
*> Greetings Alan,
*>
*> Instead of choosing just Stop, in that window,
select "Messenger",
*> right-click and then choose Properties. Under startup
type, choose
*> 'Disabled' and then choose the 'Stop' button. After
the service is
*stopped,
*> click OK.
*>
*> After this, you won't need to stop it at every reboot.
*> ____________________________________________
*> Jonathan Kay
*> Windows MVP, Messenger
*> Associate Expert
*> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
*> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
*>
*> *>> To stop the new brand of pop ups,such as those from
end
*>> ads.com. Go to control panel, open admin tools , then
*>> click on services- scroll down thru the list to
*>> messenger ,right click and select-STOP.This disables
the
*>> service,-not sure if u have to do this everytime u
boot
*>> up. Don t seem to be any adverse side effects but if u
*>> have trouble with any other services try re enabling
*>> messenger.Good luck!!
*
*Still peddling the same old tripe I see. You can't teach
kids anything these
*days.

(Hey b***h, at least he helps many people, and POLITELY)


AND BELIEVE ME, THERE WERE MANY MORE!

So join hands and call out, "Get the d**do out of your
a** Cass"

And i will continue to post these messages untill you publicly
apologize to the people you have offended.


Dear Bandwidth Waster,

Unless you have anything useful to impart on this topic, please refrain from
removing your head from your rear orifice. You clearly have nothing useful
to say, so would you mind doing us all a favour by SHUTTING UP?

Thank you so much.

--
Cassandra
Card carrying member of the Fresh Start Club 'The Undead Are People
Too!'

Reply address is fake. Please send all praise, abuse, insults, bequests
of £1million to cassandra (at) craigy34 (dot) freeserve (dot) co (dot)
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P

Paul

Hi Bitch,
if you could read, you'd see that I said I will stop when you offer the
people you offended a GENUINE apology.
 
A

Amethyst

Paul said:
Hi Bitch,
if you could read, you'd see that I said I will stop when you offer
the people you offended a GENUINE apology.


Offer whom an apology? I believe it is *YOU* who should be apologising to
Bruce and myself. Please note that every one of these posts of yours is
being automatically forwarded to your ISP's abuse department.
--
Cassandra
Card carrying member of the Fresh Start Club 'The Undead Are People
Too!'

Reply address is fake. Please send all praise, abuse, insults, bequests
of £1million to cassandra (at) craigy34 (dot) freeserve (dot) co (dot)
uk. Change the obvious to the obvious.
Private requests for assistance will not be acknowledged. Please post
all correspondence to the group so that all may benefit. Thank you.
 
P

Paul

And actually, if you would read the examples I used, YOU would see that you
were being just down and out RUDE to innocent NG users. As well, check my
response to your post saying the (e-mail address removed) thing. What goes around
comes around and kicks you in the ass.
 
P

Paul

Hello Rogers Communications,
Great Internet Service, a bit pricey, but still great service.
 
A

Amethyst

Paul said:
Hello Rogers Communications,
Great Internet Service, a bit pricey, but still great service.

How would you know as you don't pay for it (unless minors are allowed credit
cards in Canada these days)? I wonder what your parents will say when they
find that their cable account is suddenly terminated...?


--
Cassandra
Card carrying member of the Fresh Start Club 'The Undead Are People
Too!'

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of £1million to cassandra (at) craigy34 (dot) freeserve (dot) co (dot)
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all correspondence to the group so that all may benefit. Thank you.
 
A

Amethyst

Paul said:
And actually, if you would read the examples I used, YOU would see
that you were being just down and out RUDE to innocent NG users. As
well, check my response to your post saying the (e-mail address removed)
thing. What goes around comes around and kicks you in the ass.

My, my, is that something you learnt in the playground today? I wasn't
being rude in the slightest. No ruder than you're being at least...
--
Cassandra
Card carrying member of the Fresh Start Club 'The Undead Are People
Too!'

Reply address is fake. Please send all praise, abuse, insults, bequests
of £1million to cassandra (at) craigy34 (dot) freeserve (dot) co (dot)
uk. Change the obvious to the obvious.
Private requests for assistance will not be acknowledged. Please post
all correspondence to the group so that all may benefit. Thank you.
 
P

Paul

hey dumb bitch,
its called my parents looked to me for choosing a ISP. And one i looked at
is Rogers. As well, i have friends in the real world, and i've asked them
their opinion of their ISP and thats why im switching to rogers. But nice
comment bitch
 

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