Is displaying one page (or 3) with IE, enough to put me at risk?

[micky]

Remember our discussion about non-support of winXP and, it seems, the IE
that goes with it? And my sarcastic remark "Who uses IE?"

Well it seems I do. :-(

I'm not sure if it's enough to put me at risk.

I only display one page
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/all/preferences

If I have to restart Windows or IE, I also use the Yahoo login page.

Am I at risk with onlly that page sitting there, and the occasional
visit to Show History??


Background. I subscribe to several yahoo lists, but I've made all but 3
lists so I have to read them on the web. The remaining 3 are emailed
to me. Even though I get them, Yahoo also thinks some are bouncing.

The URL above tells me if an email address status is Normal or Bouncing.
If it is Bouncing, I can click on Show HIstory and reset it so it
doesn't bounce for a few days, until I have to do it again.

I've tried to change the email address they write me at, and I can add
an address, but not verify it. When I click on Verify, it says it has
sent me an email (and it show my valid address for the address) to which
I'll have to respond, of course, but I never get the email. I've tried
at least 12 times. Other things in this part of their webpage don't
work right either, regardless of what browswer I use.

When I display this url above in Firefox, it displays wrong and only 2
email addresses show. The line I need to see is the third line. So
that's why I've been using IE, because it displays this page better.

IF you tell me I'm at risk, I'll delete one of the email addresses from
my Yahool list, but I'd sort of prefer not to.

 

[Nil]

Remember our discussion about non-support of winXP and, it seems,
the IE that goes with it? And my sarcastic remark "Who uses IE?"

Well it seems I do. :-(

I'm not sure if it's enough to put me at risk.

Everything is a risk. Crossing the street is a risk. Breathing is a
risk. Every contact with the Internet carries some degree of risk.

I only display one page
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/all/preferences

If I have to restart Windows or IE, I also use the Yahoo login
page.

Am I at risk with onlly that page sitting there, and the
occasional visit to Show History??

Yes. Even if Yahoo is completely trustworthy, you can never know about
the ads that might be linked to their page.

Background. I subscribe to several yahoo lists, but I've made all
but 3 lists so I have to read them on the web. The remaining 3
are emailed to me. Even though I get them, Yahoo also thinks some
are bouncing.

The URL above tells me if an email address status is Normal or
Bouncing. If it is Bouncing, I can click on Show HIstory and reset
it so it doesn't bounce for a few days, until I have to do it
again.

I've tried to change the email address they write me at, and I can
add an address, but not verify it. When I click on Verify, it
says it has sent me an email (and it show my valid address for the
address) to which I'll have to respond, of course, but I never
get the email.

How do you know you aren't getting it? Does the address you're sending
it to have a webmail interface, and are you checking it online to see
if it's been classified as spam on the server side?

When I display this url above in Firefox, it displays wrong and
only 2 email addresses show. The line I need to see is the third
line. So that's why I've been using IE, because it displays this
page better.

Can you find another computer to check with?

I would set up another email address at a different mail host and
direct my Yahoo list mail there until I resolved the issue.

 

[micky]

How do you know you aren't getting it? Does the address you're sending
it to have a webmail interface,

Yes, It's Verizon.net but I have no spam rules set up or enabled and
the spam detector mailbox is always empty. And I've not set up any spam
detection in my email program, Eudora. I don't get enough spam to
really annoy me. But since you asked, I went to the Verizon webmail
page and logged in, and I got Yahoo to say it sent me another email,
and10 minutes later I sent myself one at that address, and the one I
sent is sitting there but no sign of one from Yahoo. Sometimes email
can take a day or two. I'll keep looking, but there's no reason it
would make it to Verzion and then not to me.

and are you checking it online to see
if it's been classified as spam on the server side?

Eudora, my email program. allows for all kinds of filters, but I don't
delete any email with them.

Can you find another computer to check with?

I would set up another email address at a different mail host and
direct my Yahoo list mail there until I resolved the issue.

As I said, at the top here, I added another address and Yahoo took it,
but they won't email me at it until I verify it. Clicking on Verify
takes me from one page to another and after about 4 pages generates the
message that they've emailed me, buit I never get the email and the
address is never marked as verified, and isn't in the list of addresses
I can have them write to.

It's been like this for at least 6 months. I entered it as a problem,
but at best it's in a list of literally a thousand other problems. I
couldnt' find an email address or phone number to communicate more
closely with Yahoo.

Thanks for all the suggestions.

I'll delete one address and use Firefox or SeaMonkey to keep that page
open.

 

[Nil]

Yes, It's Verizon.net but I have no spam rules set up or enabled
and the spam detector mailbox is always empty.

That probably explains it. When I was a Verizon subscriber, I had lots
of problems with email between there and Yahoo. It was due to their
administration problems, and there was absolutely nothing a user like
me could do anything about it except to register a complaint with
Verizon. The problem would get fixed and then happen again some months
later. During those problem time I would switch all my Yahoo list
messages to be sent to a Gmail address. When the problem cleared up,
I'd switch it back. I probably should have just left it at Gmail. I'm
no longer with Verizon, so the question is moot.

 

[Good Guy]

Remember our discussion about non-support of winXP and, it seems, the IE
that goes with it? And my sarcastic remark "Who uses IE?"

Well it seems I do. :-(

I'm not sure if it's enough to put me at risk.

I only display one page
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/all/preferences

If I have to restart Windows or IE, I also use the Yahoo login page.

Am I at risk with onlly that page sitting there, and the occasional
visit to Show History??


Background. I subscribe to several yahoo lists, but I've made all but 3
lists so I have to read them on the web. The remaining 3 are emailed
to me. Even though I get them, Yahoo also thinks some are bouncing.

The URL above tells me if an email address status is Normal or Bouncing.
If it is Bouncing, I can click on Show HIstory and reset it so it
doesn't bounce for a few days, until I have to do it again.

I've tried to change the email address they write me at, and I can add
an address, but not verify it. When I click on Verify, it says it has
sent me an email (and it show my valid address for the address) to which
I'll have to respond, of course, but I never get the email. I've tried
at least 12 times. Other things in this part of their webpage don't
work right either, regardless of what browswer I use.

When I display this url above in Firefox, it displays wrong and only 2
email addresses show. The line I need to see is the third line. So
that's why I've been using IE, because it displays this page better.

IF you tell me I'm at risk, I'll delete one of the email addresses from
my Yahool list, but I'd sort of prefer not to.

It is as safe as using unpatched XP and hackers and scammers have
respect for themselves by not hacking systems that are not patched
adequately.. There no challenge in hacking something that is completely
open. Remember CORE - Challenge of Reverse Engineering.

 

[Mayayana]

| Am I at risk with onlly that page sitting there, and the occasional
| visit to Show History??
|

The risk would be if you visit a page that has code to
compromise IE. That's probably most common through
phishing emails, where peole get tricked into visiting the
page. Sometimes sites get hacked, so that there might
be something like a hacked page being injected via iframe.
That would be very unlikely with yahoo.com. Not impossible,
but very unlikely.

You can improve things by restricting settings as much
as possible. Yahoo probably requires script. But does it
require ActiveX? Does it require allowing actions through
an iframe? How about .Net or Java? Those are all risky
things that can be disabled while still enabling script, by
going to Tools->Internet Options->Security->Internet Zone.

It would be better to study a bit about how it all works
than to try to come up with odds. If you understand it
then you can improve your odds.

 

[casey.o]

If I have to restart Windows or IE, I also use the Yahoo login page.

Am I at risk with onlly that page sitting there, and the occasional
visit to Show History??

I dont ever use any website for a home page. For one thing, I'm not
online much of the time, and if not, I'll just see an error screen. At
one time I set browsers to open with a blank page. Then years ago, I
created a real simple HTML page on my own computer. It's just a page
with links to sites I use often. Including links to about 8 search
engines such as yahoo, google, bing, duckgo, etc. I also have links to
a few weather pages (for my zipcode), the start page for ebay, youtube,
a local newspaper's site, a few sites related to my interests, a site
with wallpapers that I like to check out regularly, an online phone book
type site, and a few businesses I deal with.

The sky is the limit on what you put on it. It's just basic html code
like the old webpages. No scripts, no flash crap, or anything like
that. However I have added a nice background to it, a small header
picture, and at the bottom I have a map showing all the counties in my
state, and a US map (which comes in handy when I am watching weather
radar).

All of this is on my own computer. I use it for the home page for all
browsers. If I get another computer, I just copy thee folder that
contains the HTML file, and the pictures that load with it. Thus every
computrer and every browser has the same Start Page. All I have to do
is click on the links in my file, to go to a search engine or get the
weather, or whatever site I have in that file.

It's pretty easy to make this, and every so often I add a site, or
change it if some site changes their url, or whatever... Much better
than a boring blank page, works when I'm offline, and it dont generate
"offline error pages".

 

[micky]

That probably explains it. When I was a Verizon subscriber, I had lots
of problems with email between there and Yahoo. It was due to their
administration problems, and there was absolutely nothing a user like
me could do anything about it except to register a complaint with
Verizon. The problem would get fixed and then happen again some months
later. During those problem time I would switch all my Yahoo list
messages to be sent to a Gmail address.

Ah. But I can't switch.

When the problem cleared up,
I'd switch it back. I probably should have just left it at Gmail. I'm
no longer with Verizon, so the question is moot.

Just to be clear, it's a Verizon address that I want to be my new
address. My current address is at erols.com and that's the one that
bounces many times a day, they say. Erols does answer the phone and
they said they would try to fix it but they havent'.

But if Yahoo doesn't work with Erols or Verizon, it must be Yahoo's
fault, I guess.

 

[Nil]

Ah. But I can't switch.

Are you sure? You can add several addresses to your Yahoo account, and
then designate any of them as your primary address. You don't have to
delete the old primary address.

Just to be clear, it's a Verizon address that I want to be my new
address. My current address is at erols.com and that's the one
that bounces many times a day, they say. Erols does answer the
phone and they said they would try to fix it but they havent'.

But if Yahoo doesn't work with Erols or Verizon, it must be
Yahoo's fault, I guess.

I blame both parties for not working together.

So, set up a Gmail or some other address and use it for your Yahoo
lists. Sometimes you gotta just stop beating your head against the
wall.

 

[micky]

Are you sure? You can add several addresses to your Yahoo account, and
then designate any of them as your primary address. You don't have to
delete the old primary address.

I know. I can add them but I can't verify them. It says it will send
me a verification email but doesn't, unless it's Verizon that refuses to
accept an email from Yahoo. But either way, I can't switch.

I blame both parties for not working together.

So, set up a Gmail or some other address and use it for your Yahoo
lists.

Can I read Gmail with a POP reader, or do I have to use the Gmail
program.

Thanks.

 

[Nil]

I know. I can add them but I can't verify them. It says it will
send me a verification email but doesn't, unless it's Verizon that
refuses to accept an email from Yahoo. But either way, I can't
switch.

The verification notice will be sent to the newly added address. If
that address isn't a Verizon address, Verizon won't have anything to do
with it. That's why I suggested getting another, non-Verizon, non-Erols
address. Trying to fight them is ineffectual. It's worth registering
your complaint with them, but waiting for them to fix things is wasting
your time.

Can I read Gmail with a POP reader, or do I have to use the Gmail
program.

Yes, Gmail does both POP and IMAP.

 

[micky]

The verification notice will be sent to the newly added address. If
that address isn't a Verizon address, Verizon won't have anything to do

Yes, I know. The problem turned out to be that i kept saying
verizon.com, not verizon.net. Ugh.

Why can't verizon use com like everyone else.

with it. That's why I suggested getting another, non-Verizon, non-Erols
address. Trying to fight them is ineffectual. It's worth registering
your complaint with them, but waiting for them to fix things is wasting
your time.


Yes, Gmail does both POP and IMAP.

I signed up for that too.

Thanks.

P&M because it's been over a month.

 

[Gene Wirchenko]

Yes, I know. The problem turned out to be that i kept saying
verizon.com, not verizon.net. Ugh.

Why can't verizon use com like everyone else.

.net is used by many. Telus is one of them. Comcast (see Nil's
E-mail address above) is another.

[snip]

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

 

[VanguardLH]

The problem turned out to be that i kept saying verizon.com, not
verizon.net. Why can't verizon use com like everyone else.

The historical use of .com was by for-profit commercial entities and
..net was for Internet services, like a distributed NETwork of computers
or a portal to a set of services or smaller sites.

There is the ISP as a company and there is the ISP as a service
provider. Employees within the company and when the company
communicates directly to other companies or customers will use .com but
that same company is providing services to their customers and those
services get the .net TLD (top-level domain). Verizon is not a rare
scenario in separating their business and service identities.

See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Internet_top-level_domains

It is a pity that some users have severely abused the intended purposes
for the TLDs by swarming to just a few, like the .com TLD, when they
should've been using .org, like your own Usenet provider, or .info for
their personal web sites. The vast majority of users, like yourself,
get no choice, haven't a clue about TLDs, or don't bother or don't want
to rent a domain to bring to their e-mail address, so they get what
they're given by whatever service provider they choose.

It takes awhile of making some mistakes before it becomes engrained that
you need to dole out an e-mail address ending in .net instead of .com.
With the service entity doling out e-mail accounts using several domain,
your username on login has become your e-mail address. While it is a
nuisance to enter that long of a username, it does help train you in
what is the correct TLD for it.