I don't want to get into a big diatribe on multi-protocol networking but, lets assume that
you have a completely wired SOHO LAN. The WinXP and Win98 nodes are on the LAN side and the
Internet is on the WAN side. The Router part of the equation only comes into play when you
need to Route TCP/IP from the LAN network to the WAN network. When WinXP networks with
Win98 it actually uses NetBIOS over IP and when the Win98 PC talks to the WinXP PC it stays
on the LAN side. Now if the destination location is a WAN address the device acts as a
Router to Route between the LAN node (say; 192.168.1.1) to the WAN address (say; yahoo.com
216.109.112.135)
When you use IPX/SPX the Win98 PC talks to the WinXP PC on the LAN and NEVER crosses the
LAN/WAN barrier and since the Internet only uses TCP/IP it doesn't need to. Now wireless
does the same only over the Ether (over the air) and not over twisted pair copper wires.
If you don't understand the above and my last reply, give up on the idea of using IPX/SPX
and you certainly don't need NetWare which is a Network Operating System (NOS) which is
comparable to you needed windows 2003 Server. You don't need a server for two LAN nodes to
talk to each other on the LAN side. They just have to agree on the LAN network address. In
my last example, the LAN network address for TCP/IP was 192.168.1.0 and for IPX/SPX was
00000100.
Dave
| First of all I am sure that this game uses IPX/SPX and it runs well on XP.
| Second, Im starting to think you can't do a wireless connection for IPX/SPX,
| because only TCP/IP goes over the internet. Or I don't know, I'm just your
| average PC user with some networking knowledge. I'm wondering if I need
| Netware to run IPX/SPX because I was instructed to. How can I recover my Win
| XP clients?
|
|
|
|
| "David H. Lipman" wrote:
|
| > You need to KNOW if this DOS game actually requires IPX/SPX and if the DOS games runs
| > properly under WinXP.
| >
| > There are games that require IPX/SPX because it is a fast and optimizable protocol. It
is
| > faster the TC/IP. But, due to the fact that the Internet is based upon TCP/IP, IPX/SPX
has
| > lost favour.
| >
| > Novell created IPX/SPX for their Netware OS based upon XNS (Xerox Networking
Specification)
| > and Novell is the source for a WinXP IPX/SPX client.
| >
| >
http://www.novell.com/products/clients/nt2000/quicklook.html
| >
| > While a network on a LAN for TCP/IP might be like...
| >
| > Network 192.168.1.0
| > node A=192.168.1.1
| > node B=192.168.1.2
| >
| > IPX/SPX uses the MAC address for the node and uses an arbitrary 8 digit number as the
| > network such as...
| >
| > Network 1 = 00000100
| > node A = 00000100:0060080598BE
| > node B = 00000100:0060080728CD
| >
| > If a Router was to "Route" IPX/SPX it would route between the two IPX networks like the
| > above 00000100 and the below network 00000200
| >
| > Network 2 = 00000200
| > node C = 00000200:00600803869D
| > node D = 00000200:0060684728DC
| >
| > SOHO Routers just don't need to perform this as only corporate networks with many nodes
need
| > to Route IPX and it would increase the cost..
| >
| > Dave
| >
| >
| >
| >
| > | > | Well, I take it that every old dos game that can run a network game is on
| > | IPX/SPX because it was widely used throughout Windows 95. So I want that to
| > | work between XP and 98SE. Those are the only comps I have so I have to work
| > | with them. I gave am email to the router tech support and they said a
| > | wireless connection can use IPX/SPX as long as there is a netware server and
| > | an IPX/SPX protocol. So I listened to them.My problem is, is that XP can't
| > | find its client for netware.
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > | "David H. Lipman" wrote:
| > |
| > | > Why are you using IPX/SPX in the first place ?
| > | >
| > | > Are you using a IPX/SPX compliant game or application ?
| > | >
| > | > Are the WinXP and Wn98 platforms the ONLY nodes ?
| > | >
| > | > SOHO Routers don't support IPX/SPX. They don't need to. SOHO Routers only support
| > TCP/IP
| > | > as a routable protocol. However, as a WAP or Ethernet switch it is acting in a
protocol
| > | > independent concept so it is not that it supports IPX/SPX, it is that it supports
any
| > | > Ethernet protocol.
| > | >
| > | > Lets get to the core of your needs then we can resolve the problem.
| > | >
| > | > Dave
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > | > | > | Hello everyone. I am trying to get IPX/SPX to work between Windows XP home
| > | > | and Windows 98SE over a wireless router. The router supports that protocol.
| > | > | I installed everything possible related to IPX/SPX. Then I was told that I
| > | > | need client for netware. So I installe it in the Windows 98 SE no problem,
| > | > | But the Windows XP home said it couldn't find any client drivers (it only
| > | > | gave me the "have disk option"). So where can I recover these drivers? Second
| > | > | is, I want to run old dos games over IPX/SPX, I was told that you don't need
| > | > | netware to do so, just the protocols. It didn't work. So how can I make that
| > | > | work? And lastly, how do I test the connection. I used netstat and it showed
| > | > | me that I was connected with netBIOS but thats the file and print sharing
| > | > | over TCP/IP. I guess I want to run both servers. Please help!!
| > | > |
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