internet connection sharing in Windows Vista versions

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Mirko

Does anyone know which is the least (cheapest) version of Vista that
supports sharing an internet connection to other computers within a small
home network?

I searched through Microsoft's Windows Vista website, but didn't find an
answer.
 
Cheapest would be Vista Home Basic, since it is equal to XP Home which
supported up to 5 machines.
 
Does anyone know which is the least (cheapest) version of Vista that
supports sharing an internet connection to other computers within a small
home network?

I searched through Microsoft's Windows Vista website, but didn't find an
answer.
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If you have broadband, a cheap (US$30) router (NAT) will do the trick
with no worries on someone shutting down/rebooting the ICS host.
Connection limits should not be a worry for the geekiest home network,
only speed (which would be no different than ICS).
 
which supported up to 5 machines.

hello, can you provide proof for that limitation on xp home?

this is the first time I have heard of it
 
I think you are wrong since I have never heard of such a limitation, and I
have been using XP and ICS since it came out...

I posted this question on the networking group for xp and here is what
someone replied:


------
michail - you are correct in your assumption -the limits apply to
"concurrent" connections to a computer within network status they do not
apply to ICS.
ICS connections are "limited" by the ISP - for example with Comcast.net and
a Motorola cable modem and broadband router there is a maximum of 32
"shared" connections permitted
------


If you can find me a document from microsoft that says that the 5 or 10
computer limitaion applies to ICS then ok. But I looked and I couldnt find
one that talks about ICS.
 
The 5/10 limitation applies to connecting to shares. I don't think this
applies to the Internet Connection Sharing feature, which has nothing to do
with "shares", but is rather a way for a computer to operate as a simple
router if it has two network connections.

--
Bruce Sanderson MVP Printing
http://members.shaw.ca/bsanders

It is perfectly useless to know the right answer to the wrong question.
 
another reply from an MVP confirms that ICS has no limitation.
I was very sure of this... but I wanted a confirmation

_________
The concurrent connections is for established connections, in Windows
Networking. ICS is an IP service, and IP is a connectionless protocol.
This
limitation does not apply to ICS.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/server-availability-affected-by.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/server-availability-affected-by.html

Your ISP has no say in the matter. If you have a router that supports 32
connected computers, you can have 32. If your router supports 256, then you
can
have 256. Of course long before you get that number active, your bandwidth
will
suck so much, you won't care. To say nothing of the ICS server.

Now whether you are legally and morally entitled to connect 256 computers...

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
 
Thanks to all who replied! And I do have another question that is bothering
me.

Do all versions of Vista include "Microsoft Internet Information Services
(IIS)"?



michail iakovou yos said:
another reply from an MVP confirms that ICS has no limitation.
I was very sure of this... but I wanted a confirmation

_________
The concurrent connections is for established connections, in Windows
Networking. ICS is an IP service, and IP is a connectionless protocol.
This
limitation does not apply to ICS.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/server-availability-affected-by.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/server-availability-affected-by.html

Your ISP has no say in the matter. If you have a router that supports 32
connected computers, you can have 32. If your router supports 256, then
you can
have 256. Of course long before you get that number active, your
bandwidth will
suck so much, you won't care. To say nothing of the ICS server.

Now whether you are legally and morally entitled to connect 256
computers...

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/





Bruce Sanderson said:
The 5/10 limitation applies to connecting to shares. I don't think this
applies to the Internet Connection Sharing feature, which has nothing to
do with "shares", but is rather a way for a computer to operate as a
simple router if it has two network connections.

--
Bruce Sanderson MVP Printing
http://members.shaw.ca/bsanders

It is perfectly useless to know the right answer to the wrong question.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
No....


Mirko said:
Thanks to all who replied! And I do have another question that is
bothering me.

Do all versions of Vista include "Microsoft Internet Information Services
(IIS)"?



michail iakovou yos said:
another reply from an MVP confirms that ICS has no limitation.
I was very sure of this... but I wanted a confirmation

_________
The concurrent connections is for established connections, in Windows
Networking. ICS is an IP service, and IP is a connectionless protocol.
This
limitation does not apply to ICS.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/server-availability-affected-by.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/server-availability-affected-by.html

Your ISP has no say in the matter. If you have a router that supports 32
connected computers, you can have 32. If your router supports 256, then
you can
have 256. Of course long before you get that number active, your
bandwidth will
suck so much, you won't care. To say nothing of the ICS server.

Now whether you are legally and morally entitled to connect 256
computers...

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/





Bruce Sanderson said:
The 5/10 limitation applies to connecting to shares. I don't think this
applies to the Internet Connection Sharing feature, which has nothing to
do with "shares", but is rather a way for a computer to operate as a
simple router if it has two network connections.

--
Bruce Sanderson MVP Printing
http://members.shaw.ca/bsanders

It is perfectly useless to know the right answer to the wrong question.



check out this forum post:
http://www.computing.net/networking/wwwboard/forum/23912.html

Although some persons have managed to connect up to 8 PCs with XP Home,
but thats through a workaround.
--
Andre
Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
My Vista Quickstart Guide:
http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!E8E5CC039D51E3DB!9709.entry
which supported up to 5 machines.

hello, can you provide proof for that limitation on xp home?

this is the first time I have heard of it

Cheapest would be Vista Home Basic, since it is equal to XP Home
which supported up to 5 machines.
--
Andre
Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
My Vista Quickstart Guide:
http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!E8E5CC039D51E3DB!9709.entry

Does anyone know which is the least (cheapest) version of Vista that
supports sharing an internet connection to other computers within a
small home network?

I searched through Microsoft's Windows Vista website, but didn't
find an answer.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
Oh, I just found an earlier thread where the question has already been
answered.


Mirko said:
Thanks to all who replied! And I do have another question that is
bothering me.

Do all versions of Vista include "Microsoft Internet Information Services
(IIS)"?



michail iakovou yos said:
another reply from an MVP confirms that ICS has no limitation.
I was very sure of this... but I wanted a confirmation

_________
The concurrent connections is for established connections, in Windows
Networking. ICS is an IP service, and IP is a connectionless protocol.
This
limitation does not apply to ICS.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/server-availability-affected-by.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/server-availability-affected-by.html

Your ISP has no say in the matter. If you have a router that supports 32
connected computers, you can have 32. If your router supports 256, then
you can
have 256. Of course long before you get that number active, your
bandwidth will
suck so much, you won't care. To say nothing of the ICS server.

Now whether you are legally and morally entitled to connect 256
computers...

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/





Bruce Sanderson said:
The 5/10 limitation applies to connecting to shares. I don't think this
applies to the Internet Connection Sharing feature, which has nothing to
do with "shares", but is rather a way for a computer to operate as a
simple router if it has two network connections.

--
Bruce Sanderson MVP Printing
http://members.shaw.ca/bsanders

It is perfectly useless to know the right answer to the wrong question.



check out this forum post:
http://www.computing.net/networking/wwwboard/forum/23912.html

Although some persons have managed to connect up to 8 PCs with XP Home,
but thats through a workaround.
--
Andre
Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
My Vista Quickstart Guide:
http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!E8E5CC039D51E3DB!9709.entry
which supported up to 5 machines.

hello, can you provide proof for that limitation on xp home?

this is the first time I have heard of it

Cheapest would be Vista Home Basic, since it is equal to XP Home
which supported up to 5 machines.
--
Andre
Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
My Vista Quickstart Guide:
http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!E8E5CC039D51E3DB!9709.entry

Does anyone know which is the least (cheapest) version of Vista that
supports sharing an internet connection to other computers within a
small home network?

I searched through Microsoft's Windows Vista website, but didn't
find an answer.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
Internet connection sharing is a dinosaur. If you want to setup a home
network, then please get a broadband router. They are relatively cheap and
work very well and provide an added layer of security.
 
William,
Can you elaborate a little on this please? My ISP only "allows" me one
dynamically allocated ip address, that is why I have used ICS in the past to
"forward" my connection onto my home network for my other 3 pcs. (of course
using a 2nd ethernet card in my "host" PC).
With a broadband router, does the router get the one dynamically IP address
and then automatically allocate 192.168.0.xxx numbers to the home network?
That would simplify things a lot for me as I'm about to revert back to XP in
order to get my family off my back for no internet access. I guess I was
thinking a router was like a hub.
Thanks!
Peter J. Macay
 
Hello Peter,

Your router will get the external IP address allocated by your ISP. The
router will have its own internal LAN IP, such as 192.168.0.1 - then each of
your pcs will either acquire their own internal IP from the router via DHCP,
or you may assign a fixed internal IP address to each one.

Our network has a router/modem with the internal IP 10.1.1.1, and we
assigned fixed internal IPs to our pcs. PC1 is 10.1.1.2, PC2 10.1.1.3 etc.
The deafult gateway is the router, 10.1.1.1, primary DNS is the router
10.1.1.1, additional DNS server is our ISPs DNS server address. NetBios
over TCP/IP is enabled on each pc.
 
Hi Jane,

Thank you so much for the clarification. I thought you had to use
192.168.0.xxxx because this was a "fake" IP range that would not try and
forward through the routher, using other ranges like 10.1.1.xxx would be a
"valid" IP address and the router would try and route both ways through the
router and then cause a conflict on the internet because you're using
someeone else's assigned address.
Is this an option you program into the router? To only allow packet traffic
in, but not out?

Thanks again for your helpful response!

Peter J Macay
 
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