installing Win XP Home ed. over Win 98ME without a 98 DIsk

[npcgeisel]

installing Win XP Home ed. over Win 98ME without a 98 DIsk

I just purchased Win XP Home ed (dual - either upgrade or full install
I was told when I purchased that with this program I can upgrade Win 9
ME without a disk & not lose my programs etc. (my PC came with 9
installed but no disk) is this true? Haven't opened the box yet as
want to be sure what I'm doing and if I have the correct program

 

[Bert Kinney]

Hi,

Is this the retail version of Window Home, or an OEM version? Also does
it say Upgrade or Full on the box?

 

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

"dual" There is no such thing as far as windows XP is concerned.

However the full version can perform a full or upgrade without a previous
installation or CD available.

The upgrade version will need the CD or existing installation.
It is also capable of a full or upgrade installation, but the previous
installation or CD is necessary.
If you do not have the Windows 98 CD and Windows 98 is installed, it should
upgrade OK.
But, whenever you need to reinstall windows XP, you may have problems
without the previous CD.

Exactly what version do you have?
Full or upgrade?
Retail or OEM?

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

installing Win XP Home ed. over Win 98ME without a 98 DIsk

There's no such thing as "Win 98ME." Is it Windows 98 or is it Windows Me?

Especially if it's Windows 98, be aware that your computer is old enough
that it either may not run Windows XP at all, or run it so slowly that you
may find it unusable. In particular, how fast is your CPU, how much RAM do
you have, and how big is the hard drive?

I just purchased Win XP Home ed (dual - either upgrade or full
install)

There's no such thing as "dual - either upgrade or full install."

There are three types of CD you can buy:

1. Full Retail

2. Upgrade Retail

3. OEM

OEM CDs can do only clean installations, and not upgrades.

Either type of Retail CD (Full or Upgrade) can do a clean installation or an
upgrade. The only difference between the two is that in order to do a clean
installation with the Upgrade version, you need a CD of a previous
qualifying version to show it as proof of ownership.

I was told when I purchased that with this program I can
upgrade Win 98 ME without a disk & not lose my programs etc. (my PC
came with 98 installed but no disk) is this true?

If it's a retail version (either Full or Upgrade), yes. If it's an OEM
version, no.

However (and it's a big however), be aware that there are never any
guarantees. Upgrades normally go well, but there are exceptions. It's
*always* possible for something to go wrong. If the worst happens, you could
conceivably lose everything on the drive, so it's prudent to be sure you
have a backup of anything you can't afford to lose before beginning. You
should also have the installation media for all your programs in case you
have to reinstall them.

 

[npcgeisel]

npcgeisel wrote:
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installing Win XP Home ed. over Win 98ME without a 98 DIsk-


There's no such thing as "Win 98ME." Is it Windows 98 or is it Window
Me?

Especially if it's Windows 98, be aware that your computer is ol
enough
that it either may not run Windows XP at all, or run it so slowly tha
you
may find it unusable. In particular, how fast is your CPU, how much RA
do
you have, and how big is the hard drive?

-
I just purchased Win XP Home ed (dual - either upgrade or full
install)-


There's no such thing as "dual - either upgrade or full install."

There are three types of CD you can buy:

1. Full Retail

2. Upgrade Retail

3. OEM

OEM CDs can do only clean installations, and not upgrades.

Either type of Retail CD (Full or Upgrade) can do a clean installatio
or an
upgrade. The only difference between the two is that in order to do
clean
installation with the Upgrade version, you need a CD of a previous
qualifying version to show it as proof of ownership.

-
I was told when I purchased that with this program I can
upgrade Win 98 ME without a disk & not lose my programs etc. (my PC
came with 98 installed but no disk) is this true?-


If it's a retail version (either Full or Upgrade), yes. If it's an OE

version, no.

However (and it's a big however), be aware that there are never any
guarantees. Upgrades normally go well, but there are exceptions. It's
*always* possible for something to go wrong. If the worst happens, yo
could
conceivably lose everything on the drive, so it's prudent to be sur
you
have a backup of anything you can't afford to lose before beginning
You
should also have the installation media for all your programs in cas
you
have to reinstall them.

#1 I am a novice at this!

The program is Windows xp Home Edition (Full) retail In the uppe
right hand corner of the box front under MICROSOFT it reads: For PC
with Windows 98 or earlier .

I don't know if my operating system can run the xp program. When I ru
Direct X Diagnostic this is what I see:

Operating System Microsoft System 98 (4.10, Build 2222)
Processor, AMD Athlon xp2200, mmx, 30now, 1.8 GHz
224 MB Ram
Page File 1715 MB available.
Direct X 9.0c
Display 800 x 60

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

#1 I am a novice at this!

Yes, I understand that. That's why I went to the trouble of carefully
explaining what you apparently didn't know.

The program is Windows xp Home Edition (Full) retail In the upper
right hand corner of the box front under MICROSOFT it reads: For PCs
with Windows 98 or earlier .

OK, fine. Yes, you can do an upgrade, and keep all your data and installed
programs. But as I said, "it's *always* possible for something to go wrong.
If the worst happens, you could conceivably lose everything on the drive, so
it's prudent to be sure you have a backup of anything you can't afford to
lose before beginning."

I don't know if my operating system can run the xp program.

Windows XP *is* an operating system. There's no question of an operating
system running it. The question is whether your *computer* can run it.

When I run
Direct X Diagnostic this is what I see:

Operating System Microsoft System 98 (4.10, Build 2222)
Processor, AMD Athlon xp2200, mmx, 30now, 1.8 GHz
224 MB Ram
Page File 1715 MB available.
Direct X 9.0c
Display 800 x 600

That should be OK. How large is your hard drive?

 

[npcgeisel]

npcgeisel wrote:
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Ken Blake, MVP Wrote:-
npcgeisel wrote:
-
installing Win XP Home ed. over Win 98ME without a 98 DIsk-


There's no such thing as "Win 98ME." Is it Windows 98 or is it
Windows Me?

Especially if it's Windows 98, be aware that your computer is old
enough
that it either may not run Windows XP at all, or run it so slowly
that you
may find it unusable. In particular, how fast is your CPU, how much
RAM do
you have, and how big is the hard drive?

-
I just purchased Win XP Home ed (dual - either upgrade or full
install)-


There's no such thing as "dual - either upgrade or full install."

There are three types of CD you can buy:

1. Full Retail

2. Upgrade Retail

3. OEM

OEM CDs can do only clean installations, and not upgrades.

Either type of Retail CD (Full or Upgrade) can do a clean
installation or an
upgrade. The only difference between the two is that in order to do a
clean
installation with the Upgrade version, you need a CD of a previous
qualifying version to show it as proof of ownership.

-
I was told when I purchased that with this program I can
upgrade Win 98 ME without a disk & not lose my programs etc. (my PC
came with 98 installed but no disk) is this true?-


If it's a retail version (either Full or Upgrade), yes. If it's an
OEM

version, no.

However (and it's a big however), be aware that there are never any
guarantees. Upgrades normally go well, but there are exceptions. It's
*always* possible for something to go wrong. If the worst happens,
you could
conceivably lose everything on the drive, so it's prudent to be sure
you
have a backup of anything you can't afford to lose before beginning.
You
should also have the installation media for all your programs in case
you
have to reinstall them.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup-

#1 I am a novice at this!-


Yes, I understand that. That's why I went to the trouble of carefully
explaining what you apparently didn't know.

-
The program is Windows xp Home Edition (Full) retail In the upper
right hand corner of the box front under MICROSOFT it reads: For PCs
with Windows 98 or earlier .-


OK, fine. Yes, you can do an upgrade, and keep all your data an
installed
programs. But as I said, "it's *always* possible for something to g
wrong.
If the worst happens, you could conceivably lose everything on th
drive, so
it's prudent to be sure you have a backup of anything you can't affor
to
lose before beginning."


-
I don't know if my operating system can run the xp program.-


Windows XP *is* an operating system. There's no question of a
operating
system running it. The question is whether your *computer* can run it.

-
When I run
Direct X Diagnostic this is what I see:

Operating System Microsoft System 98 (4.10, Build 2222)
Processor, AMD Athlon xp2200, mmx, 30now, 1.8 GHz
224 MB Ram
Page File 1715 MB available.
Direct X 9.0c
Display 800 x 600-


That should be OK. How large is your hard drive?

How do I check the size of the Hard Drive?

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

Ken Blake, MVP Wrote:

How do I check the size of the Hard Drive??

Look at it in "My Computer." If you don't see it directly there, right-click
on it, and choose Properties.

 

[npcgeisel]

npcgeisel wrote:
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Ken Blake, MVP Wrote:-
--
Operating System Microsoft System 98 (4.10, Build 2222)
Processor, AMD Athlon xp2200, mmx, 30now, 1.8 GHz
224 MB Ram
Page File 1715 MB available.
Direct X 9.0c
Display 800 x 600-


That should be OK. How large is your hard drive?


--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup-

How do I check the size of the Hard Drive??-


Look at it in "My Computer." If you don't see it directly there,
right-click
on it, and choose Properties.

Mr. Blake I did what you said "Look at it in "My Computer." If you
don't see it directly there, right-click on it, and choose Properties."
But I cannot find anything there that says Hard Drive nor the size. the
previous information I sent Op System etc came from that properties
menu. Sorry Would it have another name in Properties. So sorry to
be taking up so much of your time. Prudence

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

Mr. Blake

No formaility is necessary. Just "Ken" is fine.

I did what you said "Look at it in "My Computer." If you
don't see it directly there, right-click on it, and choose
Properties." But I cannot find anything there that says Hard Drive
nor the size. the previous information I sent Op System etc came from
that properties menu. Sorry Would it have another name in
Properties. So sorry to be taking up so much of your time. Prudence

Sorry, I've confused you. When I said "right-click on it," the "it" I'm
talking about is the hard drive.

 

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

Open "My Computer" by clicking it.
You should see a list of drives and folders.
Find the one for your hard drive.
There may be a variety of names, but the one you want should end in "(C)"
Right click that one and then click Properties.
You can also do the same for the other drives but will get an error if you
try it on a CD/DVD or floppy with no disk inserted.

 

[npcgeisel]

Sorry for the delay in responding - I took the plunge and installed XP
last Saturday, everything went fine doing the upgrade until I shut the
PC down and went back to start it up later in the day, it became stuck
in an 8 hour loop restart/scan/shut down/restart/scan etc. On the phone
with Microsoft for 3 hours, until the told me it was not a sofware
problem. I was finally able to get into "safe mode" but by then all I
could do was re-install 98, that got me through, then I did a full
install with XP. I lost everything - so I'm starting from scratch -
and my email was really messed up. Comcast sent me to MS/IE - MS/IIE
back to Comcast, who after two more hours got me back in operation
(total 3 days in "limbo") MS charged me using one of my Service Packs
and all they did was connect me to Comcast. Can I request a credit of
that Service back? Thank you so much for all of your help. Prudence
(I'm sure I'll be talking to you again)