installing os to 2nd hard drive


G

Guest

I have a HP Pavilion comp. original drive is partition for c drive and d
drive. D drive is for the HP recovery program. the computer was already
loaded with Windows XP Home ed. so I dont have a cd. I have installed a
second hard drive G into my computer and formated for files.
on tuesday or wed my after having updates to windows done, computer was
restarted and I started getting a smart error dectecting that my C drive is
about to have iminent failure.
What I would like to do is this, Install the os onto the 2nd hard drive,
transfer everything from 1st hd to 2 hd. then make 2nd hard drive as master
and original as 2nd drive for saving until I get a new one to replace it.
ok, is this possible to do without losing information back up files, etc?
can you point me the steps to do or a website to print the steps?
any cautions etc?


Thanks in advance
 
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J

Jerry

Hard drive manufacturers provide programs to do what you want. These should
be on the CD you got with the new drive or can be downloaded from the
manufacturer's web site.
 
T

Timothy Daniels

In the absence of such a CD, you can download a free 30-day
trial copy of Casper XP from www.FSSdev.com/products/casperxp/ .
The only restriction imposed on the free trial version is that the
clone OS will be in a partition of the same size as the original OS's
partition.

BTW, standard cloning technique for WinXP/NT/2K is to have the
"parent" OS invisible to the clone when the clone boots up for the
first time. The easiest way to do this (if the clone resides on
another HD) is to simply disconnect the data cable from the original
HD when booting the clone for the first time. The clone will
automatically move to the head of the default HD boot order when
the original HD is removed, so no re-jumpering is necessary to boot
the clone. After booting in isolation for the first time, the clone on
subsequent boots may be allowed to see its "parent" OS without
any problems.

*TimDaniels*
 
D

DL

Does not the HP recovery section give you the options of creating recovery
cd's?
You may find disk clone apps cannot clone the recovery partition, in which
case you may be really screwed if you later have a prob.
 
G

Guest

I have made the recovery cds before, I had tried that but it wont go because
it says the c:\i386\asms\1000\msft\windows\gdiplus\gdiplus.cat is
???(missing, or errors on it) wont go any further. Keeps looping back to
that file.
 
G

Guest

tried this over the weekend. (using the manufactures disk) when I try
to boot after coping it says the disk is recognized, but yet in bios, it is
recognized. ????
 
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G

Guest

didnt try unplugging the original hd. when i first boot 2nd hd. i will that
a try.
 
G

Guest

just got done trying that. didnt work..

got the first blue screen, then to black and up came the words:

"Windows could not start because of a computer disk hardware configuration
problem. Could not read from the selected boot disk. Check boot path and
disk hardware. Please check the windows documentaion about hardware disk
configuration and your hardware reference manuals for additional information."

whats next to try??
 
T

Timothy Daniels

Since you mentioned the word "master" in connection with one of
your HDs, I'm assuming that both HDs are PATA (i.e. not SATA)
HDs. Is that the case?

Please supply the following information:
1) On the clone HD, how many partitions are there (use Disk Management
to see this).
2) Which partition no. is the OS on?
3) Which partition no. are the boot files (i.e. boot.ini, ntldr, ntdetect.com) on?
4) Is the partition containing the boot files marked "active" (use Disk Mgt
again to see this - if there's just one partition, and "Mark Partition as Active"
is grayed out when you rt-clk the partition's GUI, it's "active")
5) Please list the contents of the boot.ini file which is just below the root of
the partition containing the boot files.

*TimDaniels*
 
G

Guest

what is PATA?? yes they are both not sata.. the new one is a ultra ata/100
7200 rpm. the old one is 5400 rpm. will that make a difference?

i have been making only i partition on the new drive.
 
T

Timothy Daniels

"PATA" means parallel ATA, as opposed to serial ATA. Their rotational
speed difference shouldn't make a discernable difference in operation.
Does "have been making only 1 partition on the new drive" mean that
there is only one partition now on the new drive? What about answers
to the questions that I asked?

*TimDaniels*
 
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G

Guest

on the original hd, there are 2 partitions. is c: drive the 2nd is d drive
d: is hp recovery. the os is on the c drive partition. the boot files are
on the c drive partition. c drive partition is marked active. d drive is
not marked active.
the boot files is under the c drive partition. ntldr and ntdetect.com files
i find 4 files each in the hd. under i386,
windows\$ntservicepackuninstall$, windows\i386, and
windows\servicepackfiles\i386 the boot.ini file the computer wont find..
all I find is a boot.ini.backup in windows\pss in c drive

on the new hd, I have 1 partition. copied c drive. this partion is active.
found those files except the boot.ini. it wasnt found anywhere.

I would list the files but i am not sure where to look for you.
 
T

Timothy Daniels

Assuming that everything was copied over to the new HD except
the boot.ini file, try using the boot.ini file listed below. Just create
it with Notepad and place it under C: so it has the path C:\boot.ini .


[boot loader]
timeout=0
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="WinXP Home clone" /fastdetect


With the new HD as the only HD in the system, the clone OS should
start up regardless of how it's jumpered. If you have the old HD on
the same cable, make sure that the new HD is Master and the old HD
is Slave.

*TimDaniels*
 
G

Guest

funny, when i search for the file boot.ini in c drive (old hd) it only shows
boot.ini.backup and g drive(new hd) doesnt show anything under the search.
but as I tried saving the file under notepad, it get the warning box:

Boot.ini
this file exists with read only attributes.
please use a different file name.

ok



Timothy Daniels said:
Assuming that everything was copied over to the new HD except
the boot.ini file, try using the boot.ini file listed below. Just create
it with Notepad and place it under C: so it has the path C:\boot.ini .


[boot loader]
timeout=0
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="WinXP Home clone" /fastdetect


With the new HD as the only HD in the system, the clone OS should
start up regardless of how it's jumpered. If you have the old HD on
the same cable, make sure that the new HD is Master and the old HD
is Slave.

*TimDaniels*


sggack said:
on the original hd, there are 2 partitions. is c: drive the 2nd is d drive
d: is hp recovery. the os is on the c drive partition. the boot files are
on the c drive partition. c drive partition is marked active. d drive is
not marked active.
the boot files is under the c drive partition. ntldr and ntdetect.com files
i find 4 files each in the hd. under i386,
windows\$ntservicepackuninstall$, windows\i386, and
windows\servicepackfiles\i386 the boot.ini file the computer wont find..
all I find is a boot.ini.backup in windows\pss in c drive

on the new hd, I have 1 partition. copied c drive. this partion is active.
found those files except the boot.ini. it wasnt found anywhere.

I would list the files but i am not sure where to look for you.
 
G

Guest

pressed post too fast.

the above was trying to save on g drive (new hd)

just to see what would happen, i tryied to save in c drive(old hd) i got
the box

c:\boot.ini already exists.
do you want to replace it?

yes no





sggack said:
funny, when i search for the file boot.ini in c drive (old hd) it only shows
boot.ini.backup and g drive(new hd) doesnt show anything under the search.
but as I tried saving the file under notepad, it get the warning box:

Boot.ini
this file exists with read only attributes.
please use a different file name.

ok



Timothy Daniels said:
Assuming that everything was copied over to the new HD except
the boot.ini file, try using the boot.ini file listed below. Just create
it with Notepad and place it under C: so it has the path C:\boot.ini .


[boot loader]
timeout=0
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="WinXP Home clone" /fastdetect


With the new HD as the only HD in the system, the clone OS should
start up regardless of how it's jumpered. If you have the old HD on
the same cable, make sure that the new HD is Master and the old HD
is Slave.

*TimDaniels*


sggack said:
on the original hd, there are 2 partitions. is c: drive the 2nd is d drive
d: is hp recovery. the os is on the c drive partition. the boot files are
on the c drive partition. c drive partition is marked active. d drive is
not marked active.
the boot files is under the c drive partition. ntldr and ntdetect.com files
i find 4 files each in the hd. under i386,
windows\$ntservicepackuninstall$, windows\i386, and
windows\servicepackfiles\i386 the boot.ini file the computer wont find..
all I find is a boot.ini.backup in windows\pss in c drive

on the new hd, I have 1 partition. copied c drive. this partion is active.
found those files except the boot.ini. it wasnt found anywhere.

I would list the files but i am not sure where to look for you.

:

"PATA" means parallel ATA, as opposed to serial ATA. Their rotational
speed difference shouldn't make a discernable difference in operation.
Does "have been making only 1 partition on the new drive" mean that
there is only one partition now on the new drive? What about answers
to the questions that I asked?

*TimDaniels*

:
what is PATA?? yes they are both not sata.. the new one is a
ultra ata/100 7200 rpm. the old one is 5400 rpm. will that make
a difference?

i have been making only i partition on the new drive.

:

Since you mentioned the word "master" in connection with one of
your HDs, I'm assuming that both HDs are PATA (i.e. not SATA)
HDs. Is that the case?

Please supply the following information:
1) On the clone HD, how many partitions are there (use Disk Management
to see this).
2) Which partition no. is the OS on?
3) Which partition no. are the boot files (i.e. boot.ini, ntldr, ntdetect.com) on?
4) Is the partition containing the boot files marked "active" (use Disk Mgt
again to see this - if there's just one partition, and "Mark Partition as Active"
is grayed out when you rt-clk the partition's GUI, it's "active")
5) Please list the contents of the boot.ini file which is just below the root of
the partition containing the boot files.

*TimDaniels*

:
just got done trying that. didnt work..

got the first blue screen, then to black and up came the words:

"Windows could not start because of a computer disk hardware
configuration problem. Could not read from the selected boot disk.
Check boot path and disk hardware. Please check the windows
documentaion about hardware disk configuration and your
hardware reference manuals for additional information."

whats next to try??

:
didnt try unplugging the original hd. when i first boot 2nd hd. i will that
a try.

:

In the absence of such a CD, you can download a free 30-day
trial copy of Casper XP from www.FSSdev.com/products/casperxp/ .
The only restriction imposed on the free trial version is that the
clone OS will be in a partition of the same size as the original OS's
partition.

BTW, standard cloning technique for WinXP/NT/2K is to have the
"parent" OS invisible to the clone when the clone boots up for the
first time. The easiest way to do this (if the clone resides on
another HD) is to simply disconnect the data cable from the original
HD when booting the clone for the first time. The clone will
automatically move to the head of the default HD boot order when
the original HD is removed, so no re-jumpering is necessary to boot
the clone. After booting in isolation for the first time, the clone on
subsequent boots may be allowed to see its "parent" OS without
any problems.

*TimDaniels*


:
Hard drive manufacturers provide programs to do what you want.
These should be on the CD you got with the new drive or can be
downloaded from the manufacturer's web site.

:
I have a HP Pavilion comp. original drive is partition for c drive
and d drive. D drive is for the HP recovery program. the
computer was already loaded with Windows XP Home ed.
so I dont have a cd. I have installed a second hard drive G into
my computer and formated for files. on tuesday or wed my after
having updates to windows done, computer was restarted and
I started getting a smart error dectecting that my C drive is
about to have iminent failure.
What I would like to do is this, Install the os onto the 2nd hard drive,
transfer everything from 1st hd to 2 hd. then make 2nd hard drive
as master and original as 2nd drive for saving until I get a new
one to replace it. ok, is this possible to do without losing
information back up files, etc?
can you point me the steps to do or a website to print the steps?
any cautions etc?
 
T

Timothy Daniels

Press "No". Back up a couple steps. First, let's look for boot.ini
again by showing (unhiding) the system files. From the web page:
http://www.xtra.co.nz/help/0,,4155-1916458,00.html ,

Click Start.
Open My Computer.
Select the Tools menu and click Folder Options.
Select the View Tab.
Under the Hidden files and folders heading select Show hidden files and folders.
Uncheck the Hide protected operating system files (recommended) option.
Click Yes to confirm.
Click OK.

Then post the contents of the boot.ini file in the 1st partition of both
the old HD and the new HD.

sggack said:
pressed post too fast.

the above was trying to save on g drive (new hd)

just to see what would happen, i tryied to save in c drive(old hd) i got
the box

c:\boot.ini already exists.
do you want to replace it?

yes no

sggack said:
funny, when i search for the file boot.ini in c drive (old hd) it only shows
boot.ini.backup and g drive(new hd) doesnt show anything under the search.
but as I tried saving the file under notepad, it get the warning box:

Boot.ini
this file exists with read only attributes.
please use a different file name.

ok



Timothy Daniels said:
Assuming that everything was copied over to the new HD except
the boot.ini file, try using the boot.ini file listed below. Just create
it with Notepad and place it under C: so it has the path C:\boot.ini .


[boot loader]
timeout=0
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="WinXP Home clone" /fastdetect


With the new HD as the only HD in the system, the clone OS should
start up regardless of how it's jumpered. If you have the old HD on
the same cable, make sure that the new HD is Master and the old HD
is Slave.

*TimDaniels*


:
on the original hd, there are 2 partitions. is c: drive the 2nd is d drive
d: is hp recovery. the os is on the c drive partition. the boot files are
on the c drive partition. c drive partition is marked active. d drive is
not marked active.
the boot files is under the c drive partition. ntldr and ntdetect.com files
i find 4 files each in the hd. under i386,
windows\$ntservicepackuninstall$, windows\i386, and
windows\servicepackfiles\i386 the boot.ini file the computer wont find..
all I find is a boot.ini.backup in windows\pss in c drive

on the new hd, I have 1 partition. copied c drive. this partion is active.
found those files except the boot.ini. it wasnt found anywhere.

I would list the files but i am not sure where to look for you.

:

"PATA" means parallel ATA, as opposed to serial ATA. Their rotational
speed difference shouldn't make a discernable difference in operation.
Does "have been making only 1 partition on the new drive" mean that
there is only one partition now on the new drive? What about answers
to the questions that I asked?

*TimDaniels*

:
what is PATA?? yes they are both not sata.. the new one is a
ultra ata/100 7200 rpm. the old one is 5400 rpm. will that make
a difference?

i have been making only i partition on the new drive.

:

Since you mentioned the word "master" in connection with one of
your HDs, I'm assuming that both HDs are PATA (i.e. not SATA)
HDs. Is that the case?

Please supply the following information:
1) On the clone HD, how many partitions are there (use Disk Management
to see this).
2) Which partition no. is the OS on?
3) Which partition no. are the boot files (i.e. boot.ini, ntldr, ntdetect.com) on?
4) Is the partition containing the boot files marked "active" (use Disk Mgt
again to see this - if there's just one partition, and "Mark Partition as Active"
is grayed out when you rt-clk the partition's GUI, it's "active")
5) Please list the contents of the boot.ini file which is just below the root of
the partition containing the boot files.

*TimDaniels*

:
just got done trying that. didnt work..

got the first blue screen, then to black and up came the words:

"Windows could not start because of a computer disk hardware
configuration problem. Could not read from the selected boot disk.
Check boot path and disk hardware. Please check the windows
documentaion about hardware disk configuration and your
hardware reference manuals for additional information."

whats next to try??

:
didnt try unplugging the original hd. when i first boot 2nd hd. i will that
a try.

:

In the absence of such a CD, you can download a free 30-day
trial copy of Casper XP from www.FSSdev.com/products/casperxp/ .
The only restriction imposed on the free trial version is that the
clone OS will be in a partition of the same size as the original OS's
partition.

BTW, standard cloning technique for WinXP/NT/2K is to have the
"parent" OS invisible to the clone when the clone boots up for the
first time. The easiest way to do this (if the clone resides on
another HD) is to simply disconnect the data cable from the original
HD when booting the clone for the first time. The clone will
automatically move to the head of the default HD boot order when
the original HD is removed, so no re-jumpering is necessary to boot
the clone. After booting in isolation for the first time, the clone on
subsequent boots may be allowed to see its "parent" OS without
any problems.

*TimDaniels*


:
Hard drive manufacturers provide programs to do what you want.
These should be on the CD you got with the new drive or can be
downloaded from the manufacturer's web site.

:
I have a HP Pavilion comp. original drive is partition for c drive
and d drive. D drive is for the HP recovery program. the
computer was already loaded with Windows XP Home ed.
so I dont have a cd. I have installed a second hard drive G into
my computer and formated for files. on tuesday or wed my after
having updates to windows done, computer was restarted and
I started getting a smart error dectecting that my C drive is
about to have iminent failure.
What I would like to do is this, Install the os onto the 2nd hard drive,
transfer everything from 1st hd to 2 hd. then make 2nd hard drive
as master and original as 2nd drive for saving until I get a new
one to replace it. ok, is this possible to do without losing
information back up files, etc?
can you point me the steps to do or a website to print the steps?
any cautions etc?
 
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G

Guest

ok got the info for you. copy pasted the info.

c:\boot.ini
[boot loader]
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Home
Edition" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn

c:\document and settings\owner\recent
[boot loader]
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS

[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Home
Edition" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn

g:\boot.ini
[boot loader]
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS

[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Home
Edition" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn

and just for the sake of listing it.

d:\BOOT.INI
[boot loader]
timeout=0
default=C:\CMDCONS\BOOTSECT.DAT
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /fastdetect
C:\CMDCONS\BOOTSECT.DAT="Microsoft Windows Recovery Console" /cmdcons

thanks again


Timothy Daniels said:
Press "No". Back up a couple steps. First, let's look for boot.ini
again by showing (unhiding) the system files. From the web page:
http://www.xtra.co.nz/help/0,,4155-1916458,00.html ,

Click Start.
Open My Computer.
Select the Tools menu and click Folder Options.
Select the View Tab.
Under the Hidden files and folders heading select Show hidden files and folders.
Uncheck the Hide protected operating system files (recommended) option.
Click Yes to confirm.
Click OK.

Then post the contents of the boot.ini file in the 1st partition of both
the old HD and the new HD.

sggack said:
pressed post too fast.

the above was trying to save on g drive (new hd)

just to see what would happen, i tryied to save in c drive(old hd) i got
the box

c:\boot.ini already exists.
do you want to replace it?

yes no

sggack said:
funny, when i search for the file boot.ini in c drive (old hd) it only shows
boot.ini.backup and g drive(new hd) doesnt show anything under the search.
but as I tried saving the file under notepad, it get the warning box:

Boot.ini
this file exists with read only attributes.
please use a different file name.

ok



:

Assuming that everything was copied over to the new HD except
the boot.ini file, try using the boot.ini file listed below. Just create
it with Notepad and place it under C: so it has the path C:\boot.ini .


[boot loader]
timeout=0
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="WinXP Home clone" /fastdetect


With the new HD as the only HD in the system, the clone OS should
start up regardless of how it's jumpered. If you have the old HD on
the same cable, make sure that the new HD is Master and the old HD
is Slave.

*TimDaniels*


:
on the original hd, there are 2 partitions. is c: drive the 2nd is d drive
d: is hp recovery. the os is on the c drive partition. the boot files are
on the c drive partition. c drive partition is marked active. d drive is
not marked active.
the boot files is under the c drive partition. ntldr and ntdetect.com files
i find 4 files each in the hd. under i386,
windows\$ntservicepackuninstall$, windows\i386, and
windows\servicepackfiles\i386 the boot.ini file the computer wont find..
all I find is a boot.ini.backup in windows\pss in c drive

on the new hd, I have 1 partition. copied c drive. this partion is active.
found those files except the boot.ini. it wasnt found anywhere.

I would list the files but i am not sure where to look for you.

:

"PATA" means parallel ATA, as opposed to serial ATA. Their rotational
speed difference shouldn't make a discernable difference in operation.
Does "have been making only 1 partition on the new drive" mean that
there is only one partition now on the new drive? What about answers
to the questions that I asked?

*TimDaniels*

:
what is PATA?? yes they are both not sata.. the new one is a
ultra ata/100 7200 rpm. the old one is 5400 rpm. will that make
a difference?

i have been making only i partition on the new drive.

:

Since you mentioned the word "master" in connection with one of
your HDs, I'm assuming that both HDs are PATA (i.e. not SATA)
HDs. Is that the case?

Please supply the following information:
1) On the clone HD, how many partitions are there (use Disk Management
to see this).
2) Which partition no. is the OS on?
3) Which partition no. are the boot files (i.e. boot.ini, ntldr, ntdetect.com) on?
4) Is the partition containing the boot files marked "active" (use Disk Mgt
again to see this - if there's just one partition, and "Mark Partition as Active"
is grayed out when you rt-clk the partition's GUI, it's "active")
5) Please list the contents of the boot.ini file which is just below the root of
the partition containing the boot files.

*TimDaniels*

:
just got done trying that. didnt work..

got the first blue screen, then to black and up came the words:

"Windows could not start because of a computer disk hardware
configuration problem. Could not read from the selected boot disk.
Check boot path and disk hardware. Please check the windows
documentaion about hardware disk configuration and your
hardware reference manuals for additional information."

whats next to try??

:
didnt try unplugging the original hd. when i first boot 2nd hd. i will that
a try.

:

In the absence of such a CD, you can download a free 30-day
trial copy of Casper XP from www.FSSdev.com/products/casperxp/ .
The only restriction imposed on the free trial version is that the
clone OS will be in a partition of the same size as the original OS's
partition.

BTW, standard cloning technique for WinXP/NT/2K is to have the
"parent" OS invisible to the clone when the clone boots up for the
first time. The easiest way to do this (if the clone resides on
another HD) is to simply disconnect the data cable from the original
HD when booting the clone for the first time. The clone will
automatically move to the head of the default HD boot order when
the original HD is removed, so no re-jumpering is necessary to boot
the clone. After booting in isolation for the first time, the clone on
subsequent boots may be allowed to see its "parent" OS without
any problems.

*TimDaniels*


:
Hard drive manufacturers provide programs to do what you want.
These should be on the CD you got with the new drive or can be
downloaded from the manufacturer's web site.

:
I have a HP Pavilion comp. original drive is partition for c drive
and d drive. D drive is for the HP recovery program. the
computer was already loaded with Windows XP Home ed.
so I dont have a cd. I have installed a second hard drive G into
my computer and formated for files. on tuesday or wed my after
having updates to windows done, computer was restarted and
I started getting a smart error dectecting that my C drive is
about to have iminent failure.
What I would like to do is this, Install the os onto the 2nd hard drive,
transfer everything from 1st hd to 2 hd. then make 2nd hard drive
as master and original as 2nd drive for saving until I get a new
one to replace it. ok, is this possible to do without losing
information back up files, etc?
can you point me the steps to do or a website to print the steps?
any cautions etc?
 
T

Timothy Daniels

The problem looks pretty obvious - the entry in the boot.ini files
at C:\boot.ini and at G:\boot.ini (the latter I assume to be the clone
of C: in the new HD) points to partition 2 instead of partition 1.
Just change "partition(2)" in boot.ini to "partition(1)" in the G:
partition's boot.ini file using Notepad. Later, if things work out,
you can change it in what is now the C: partition as well.

If you have managed to boot the clone while the "parent" OS
was still connected, re-do the cloning. There may be very subtle
shortcuts set up during the 1st booting of the clone that point to
the identical file in the "parent", and you won't know it until you
take away the "parent" and then try to access the version of the
file which you thought was in the clone. When the cloning is done,
disconnect the old HD and restart the PC, and the clone should
start up. Then jumper the new HD as Master, the old HD as Slave,
and restart. The new HD's single partition should come up as C:,
and the old HD's 2 partitions will probably be seen as D: and G:.
You'll be able to drag 'n drop files and folders between C: and D:
to your heart's content.

*TimDaniels*

sggack said:
ok got the info for you. copy pasted the info.

c:\boot.ini
[boot loader]
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Home
Edition" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn

c:\document and settings\owner\recent
[boot loader]
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS

[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Home
Edition" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn

g:\boot.ini
[boot loader]
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS

[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Home
Edition" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn

and just for the sake of listing it.

d:\BOOT.INI
[boot loader]
timeout=0
default=C:\CMDCONS\BOOTSECT.DAT
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /fastdetect
C:\CMDCONS\BOOTSECT.DAT="Microsoft Windows Recovery Console" /cmdcons

thanks again


Timothy Daniels said:
Press "No". Back up a couple steps. First, let's look for boot.ini
again by showing (unhiding) the system files. From the web page:
http://www.xtra.co.nz/help/0,,4155-1916458,00.html ,

Click Start.
Open My Computer.
Select the Tools menu and click Folder Options.
Select the View Tab.
Under the Hidden files and folders heading select Show hidden files and folders.
Uncheck the Hide protected operating system files (recommended) option.
Click Yes to confirm.
Click OK.

Then post the contents of the boot.ini file in the 1st partition of both
the old HD and the new HD.

sggack said:
pressed post too fast.

the above was trying to save on g drive (new hd)

just to see what would happen, i tryied to save in c drive(old hd) i got
the box

c:\boot.ini already exists.
do you want to replace it?

yes no

:

funny, when i search for the file boot.ini in c drive (old hd) it only shows
boot.ini.backup and g drive(new hd) doesnt show anything under the search.
but as I tried saving the file under notepad, it get the warning box:

Boot.ini
this file exists with read only attributes.
please use a different file name.

ok



:

Assuming that everything was copied over to the new HD except
the boot.ini file, try using the boot.ini file listed below. Just create
it with Notepad and place it under C: so it has the path C:\boot.ini .


[boot loader]
timeout=0
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="WinXP Home clone" /fastdetect


With the new HD as the only HD in the system, the clone OS should
start up regardless of how it's jumpered. If you have the old HD on
the same cable, make sure that the new HD is Master and the old HD
is Slave.

*TimDaniels*


:
on the original hd, there are 2 partitions. is c: drive the 2nd is d drive
d: is hp recovery. the os is on the c drive partition. the boot files are
on the c drive partition. c drive partition is marked active. d drive is
not marked active.
the boot files is under the c drive partition. ntldr and ntdetect.com files
i find 4 files each in the hd. under i386,
windows\$ntservicepackuninstall$, windows\i386, and
windows\servicepackfiles\i386 the boot.ini file the computer wont find..
all I find is a boot.ini.backup in windows\pss in c drive

on the new hd, I have 1 partition. copied c drive. this partion is active.
found those files except the boot.ini. it wasnt found anywhere.

I would list the files but i am not sure where to look for you.

:

"PATA" means parallel ATA, as opposed to serial ATA. Their rotational
speed difference shouldn't make a discernable difference in operation.
Does "have been making only 1 partition on the new drive" mean that
there is only one partition now on the new drive? What about answers
to the questions that I asked?

*TimDaniels*

:
what is PATA?? yes they are both not sata.. the new one is a
ultra ata/100 7200 rpm. the old one is 5400 rpm. will that make
a difference?

i have been making only i partition on the new drive.

:

Since you mentioned the word "master" in connection with one of
your HDs, I'm assuming that both HDs are PATA (i.e. not SATA)
HDs. Is that the case?

Please supply the following information:
1) On the clone HD, how many partitions are there (use Disk Management
to see this).
2) Which partition no. is the OS on?
3) Which partition no. are the boot files (i.e. boot.ini, ntldr, ntdetect.com) on?
4) Is the partition containing the boot files marked "active" (use Disk Mgt
again to see this - if there's just one partition, and "Mark Partition as Active"
is grayed out when you rt-clk the partition's GUI, it's "active")
5) Please list the contents of the boot.ini file which is just below the root of
the partition containing the boot files.

*TimDaniels*

:
just got done trying that. didnt work..

got the first blue screen, then to black and up came the words:

"Windows could not start because of a computer disk hardware
configuration problem. Could not read from the selected boot disk.
Check boot path and disk hardware. Please check the windows
documentaion about hardware disk configuration and your
hardware reference manuals for additional information."

whats next to try??

:
didnt try unplugging the original hd. when i first boot 2nd hd. i will that
a try.

:

In the absence of such a CD, you can download a free 30-day
trial copy of Casper XP from www.FSSdev.com/products/casperxp/ .
The only restriction imposed on the free trial version is that the
clone OS will be in a partition of the same size as the original OS's
partition.

BTW, standard cloning technique for WinXP/NT/2K is to have the
"parent" OS invisible to the clone when the clone boots up for the
first time. The easiest way to do this (if the clone resides on
another HD) is to simply disconnect the data cable from the original
HD when booting the clone for the first time. The clone will
automatically move to the head of the default HD boot order when
the original HD is removed, so no re-jumpering is necessary to boot
the clone. After booting in isolation for the first time, the clone on
subsequent boots may be allowed to see its "parent" OS without
any problems.

*TimDaniels*


:
Hard drive manufacturers provide programs to do what you want.
These should be on the CD you got with the new drive or can be
downloaded from the manufacturer's web site.

:
I have a HP Pavilion comp. original drive is partition for c drive
and d drive. D drive is for the HP recovery program. the
computer was already loaded with Windows XP Home ed.
so I dont have a cd. I have installed a second hard drive G into
my computer and formated for files. on tuesday or wed my after
having updates to windows done, computer was restarted and
I started getting a smart error dectecting that my C drive is
about to have iminent failure.
What I would like to do is this, Install the os onto the 2nd hard drive,
transfer everything from 1st hd to 2 hd. then make 2nd hard drive
as master and original as 2nd drive for saving until I get a new
one to replace it. ok, is this possible to do without losing
information back up files, etc?
can you point me the steps to do or a website to print the steps?
any cautions etc?
 
T

Timothy Daniels

Timothy Daniels said:
Just change "partition(2)" in boot.ini to "partition(1)" in the G:
partition's boot.ini file using Notepad.
Do this in both places in the boot.ini file and add the "timeout"
so it looks like this:

[boot loader]
timeout=0
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Home
Edition" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn


*TimDaniels*
 
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i am trying to change the boot.ini file in g drive.
i opened the file in notepad. changed it as you said from partition(2) to
partition(1),
added the timeout(0).
when I tried to save it, a save as box came up
boot.ini
this file exists with read only attributes.
please use a different name.

when i press ok, come up with the box with the folders in that drive.

what am i missing at doing?

Thanks again.

Timothy Daniels said:
Timothy Daniels said:
Just change "partition(2)" in boot.ini to "partition(1)" in the G:
partition's boot.ini file using Notepad.
Do this in both places in the boot.ini file and add the "timeout"
so it looks like this:

[boot loader]
timeout=0
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Home
Edition" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn


*TimDaniels*
 

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