Installing new motherboard

[Guest]

How do I get replacement motherboard to work with windows XP home edition,
that was provided by manufacturer? The system is out of warranty by
manufacturer. They will not help, and microsoft just says to contact
manufacturer. Surely the lifespan of this license should be more than 1.5
yr! System just gets flashing cursor when booting to drive.

 

[Alias]

Do you have an XP CD, not a restore disk?

Alias

 

[Yves Leclerc]

The XP provided by the manufacturer was more likely OEM and the license dies
with the old motherbaord. You will have to buy a new retail version of XP.

 

[Bob I]

Get the same motherboard model that came with the box and there won't be
a problem.

 

[Tim Slattery]

Get the same motherboard model that came with the box and there won't be
a problem.

Yes, there probably will be a problem. The OEM version of XP that came
with the original computer is probably BIOS-locked to the original
motherboard. You probably will not be able to get it to work with any
other MoBo, even a new version of the same model.

 

[Nigel]

Yes, there probably will be a problem. The OEM version of XP that came
with the original computer is probably BIOS-locked to the original
motherboard. You probably will not be able to get it to work with any
other MoBo, even a new version of the same model.

Very likely to be the case. HP replaced the motherboard on my laptop when
it developed a fault, and forgot to take this into account so that when I
subsequently had to reinistall XP after things went horribly wrong it did
not work.

When I contacted HP they duely supplied some replacement disks that worked
fine.

Nigel

 

[Leythos]

The license does not "die with the old motherboard". The
license is tied to the "first computer" that the OEM XP is
installed on.

Actually, MS clearly identifies the MOTHERBOARD as the computer. If the
computer shipped with an OEM copy, then the OEM license is invalidated
when a new motherboard is installed.

 

[Opinicus]

The XP provided by the manufacturer was more likely OEM
and the license dies with the old motherbaord.

The license does not "die with the old motherboard". The
license is tied to the "first computer" that the OEM XP is
installed on.

 

[Opinicus]

How do I get replacement motherboard to work with windows
XP home edition,
that was provided by manufacturer? The system is out of
warranty by
manufacturer. They will not help

Pay the manufacturer to replace the motherboard.

 

[Opinicus]

Actually, MS clearly identifies the MOTHERBOARD as the
computer. If the
computer shipped with an OEM copy, then the OEM license is
invalidated
when a new motherboard is installed.

Wasn't in my case. A phone call to MS and an explanation
that the old motherboard had died and been replaced
activated my OEM license very nicely, thank you.

Your MS must be different from mine.

 

[Leythos]

Wasn't in my case. A phone call to MS and an explanation that the old
motherboard had died and been replaced activated my OEM license very
nicely, thank you.

Your MS must be different from mine.

No, many times they will still re-activate it. I've seen it done many
times without a single question. The retail version is not locked like the
OEM version, but even the OEM version can be re-activated if you get a
nice phone rep when you call in.

If you read the EULA, MS is quite clear that the license expires when you
change the motherboard, even if their phone activation people still
re-activate it for you. One other thing - if you REPLACE a defective OEM
board it's clearly also covered as still licensed under the EULA, it's
when you replace a non-defective board as part of an upgrade that it
invalidates the license. This information is in the EULA, it's makes for
some seriously boring reading

 

[Michael Stevens]

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The license does not "die with the old motherboard". The
license is tied to the "first computer" that the OEM XP is
installed on.

The Microsoft OEM system builders consider the motherboard as the defining
component when determining a new computer, but activation is routinely
granted on motherboard swaps.
Click on or copy and paste the link below into your web browser address box.
OEM clarification.
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/oemeula.htm
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[Opinicus]

If you read the EULA, MS is quite clear that the license
expires when you
change the motherboard

Not my EULA. The word "motherboard" appears nowhere in it,
thank you.

Your MS must be different from mine.

 

[Leythos]

Not my EULA. The word "motherboard" appears nowhere in it, thank you.

Your MS must be different from mine.

Is yours a OEM?

Does yours state first computer?

In definition on the MS site, they state that Computer means motherboard.

 

[Leythos]

I have OEM XP Pro in English and Spanish and have Home in Spanish. NONE of
the EULAs say "motherboard" or "placa base" or "place madre".

Your MS must be different than mine too.

Alias

Alias, I thought we already covered that the Spanish EULA is different?

 

[Alias]

Is yours a OEM?

Does yours state first computer?

In definition on the MS site, they state that Computer means motherboard.

I have OEM XP Pro in English and Spanish and have Home in Spanish. NONE of
the EULAs say "motherboard" or "placa base" or "place madre".

Your MS must be different than mine too.

Alias

 

[Alias]

Alias, I thought we already covered that the Spanish EULA is different.

Read for content before replying. I have two Spanish XP OSs and one ENGLISH
XP Pro. ALL of them do not mention a motherboard, including the English one
that was written for the UK, Australia, New Zealand, Ireland and Canada.

Sooo, next time you spout off about the motherboard, perhaps you can say
something like "If your XP was bought in JesusLand, the motherboard is
considered to be a computer ..."

Alias

 

[Leythos]

Read for content before replying. I have two Spanish XP OSs and one ENGLISH
XP Pro. ALL of them do not mention a motherboard, including the English one
that was written for the UK, Australia, New Zealand, Ireland and Canada.

Sooo, next time you spout off about the motherboard, perhaps you can say
something like "If your XP was bought in JesusLand, the motherboard is
considered to be a computer ..."

Oh smart-ass, somewhere in your EULA is states that you are licensed to
install on one computer. Now, if you read MS websites you can learn what
MS considers a computer in relation to the EULA/OEM licensing. MS Clearly
states that changing the MOTHERBOARD except for replacement due to defect
invalidates the OEM license.

 

[Tom]

Oh smart-ass, somewhere in your EULA is states that you are licensed to
install on one computer. Now, if you read MS websites you can learn what
MS considers a computer in relation to the EULA/OEM licensing. MS Clearly
states that changing the MOTHERBOARD except for replacement due to defect
invalidates the OEM license.

So? I agreed to their EULA, not their websites, and all of the updates
applied haven't changed the EULA to say Motherboard means computer, or
whatever your belief system tells you think. MS can change it everyday on
their website what this means, and you'll agree to it, regardless of the
previous.

So in the meantime, go walk over to your window, look outside, and pretend
there's
nothing there. Then pick up the phone and call Microsoft, your preacher (or
whoever else provides your acceptable thought pamphlet), and continue to do
as you are told.

 

[Alias]

Oh smart-ass, somewhere in your EULA is states that you are licensed to
install on one computer. Now, if you read MS websites you can learn what
MS considers a computer in relation to the EULA/OEM licensing.

Um, I made no stinking agreement on no stinking web site. My EULA says
"hardware" and "computer", no mention of motherboard. Remember, I bought the
OEM XP CD and I built the machine. Ergo, I am the OEM and I say motherboards
is fine, boss. Upgrading your puter is a part of the 'Merican Way of Life
and it still is ONE COMPUTER. I believe the key words here are "upgrading"
and "replacing defective computer parts".

MS Clearly

states that changing the MOTHERBOARD except for replacement due to defect
invalidates the OEM license.

Um, I made no stinking agreement on no stinking web site. I hit F8 and
agreed to an EULA that doesn't say that. It doesn't say I have to read their
web site either to remain a licensee in good standing.

Alias