Installing new motherboard

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Michael Stevens said:
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The Microsoft OEM system builders consider the motherboard as the defining
component when determining a new computer, but activation is routinely
granted on motherboard swaps.
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OEM clarification.
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/oemeula.htm
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Again, So? The radio button I clicked on to agreeing to the EULA, says
nothing about a computer, or the hardware, etc, meaning the motherboard. And
to have the Microsoft OEM System Builder Licensing Team make statements on a
site to what it means is useless, until it is put it in the actual agreement
in definite terms meaning that when "clicked". Hell, using that method of
contracting, MS can make any rules they wish regarding their software,
despite the agreement that was accepted at the time.
 
Um, I made no stinking agreement on no stinking web site. My EULA says
"hardware" and "computer", no mention of motherboard. Remember, I bought the
OEM XP CD and I built the machine. Ergo, I am the OEM and I say motherboards
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You bought the OEM CD from an OEM vendor, that doesn't make you a OEM.
is fine, boss. Upgrading your puter is a part of the 'Merican Way of
Life and it still is ONE COMPUTER. I believe the key words here are
"upgrading" and "replacing defective computer parts".
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Keep believing that, you might convenience yourself, but you won't change
what the EULA says or the MS definition of what a computer is.
 
Leythos said:
You bought the OEM CD from an OEM vendor, that doesn't make you a OEM.


Keep believing that, you might convenience yourself, but you won't change
what the EULA says or the MS definition of what a computer is.
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LOL! And this guy's serious!

Alias
 
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Tom said:
Again, So? The radio button I clicked on to agreeing to the EULA, says
nothing about a computer, or the hardware, etc, meaning the
motherboard. And to have the Microsoft OEM System Builder Licensing
Team make statements on a site to what it means is useless, until it
is put it in the actual agreement in definite terms meaning that when
"clicked". Hell, using that method of contracting, MS can make any
rules they wish regarding their software, despite the agreement that
was accepted at the time.
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So I guess you would rather be armed with blissful ignorance than actual
information? When I do something, I like to know as much as I can. Sorry you
did not appreciate actual information to use as you choose.
Kind of like going to the airport with your favorite family heirloom
pocketknife and not knowing it will be confiscated if you want to get on the
plane. If you know what to expect or what might happen, you can plan ahead
and not be surprised or disappointed with the results.
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Opinicus said:
The license does not "die with the old motherboard". The
license is tied to the "first computer" that the OEM XP is
installed on.
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Depends. This sounds like one installed by the maker and 'BIOS locked'.
It is not usable with a board or BIOS that fails the lock (at least from
1 March). So you must get replacement of either from original maker,
who will take appropriate steps
 
Michael Stevens said:
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So I guess you would rather be armed with blissful ignorance than actual
information? When I do something, I like to know as much as I can. Sorry
you did not appreciate actual information to use as you choose.
Kind of like going to the airport with your favorite family heirloom
pocketknife and not knowing it will be confiscated if you want to get on
the plane. If you know what to expect or what might happen, you can plan
ahead and not be surprised or disappointed with the results.
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Poor analogy Mike!

And it isn't even a viable comparison in this case. I am talking about real
words, having real meanings. In this case with the EULA I agree to when I
click it, not afterwards, and then interpreted on a website. If this were
taken to court, they would force the OEM to provide hard documentation with
the OEM license stating meanings otherwise, and then to be provided by MS to
have very relative meanings with any service pack, or other provided updates
that change it. IN your analogy, the OEM, and MS gets cut with my knife.

It is patently wrong to have one agree to an already ambiguously written
agreement, to then have other rules apply that actually aren't written in
it!
 
Scully said:
How do I get replacement motherboard to work with windows XP home edition,
that was provided by manufacturer?
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Obtain the replacement motherboard from the computer's manufacturer.

The system is out of warranty by
manufacturer. They will not help, ...
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Do you mean that the manufacturer refuses to sell you a replacement
motherboard?

and microsoft just says to contact
manufacturer.
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Correct, Microsoft cannot assist with an OEM problem.

Surely the lifespan of this license should be more than 1.5
yr! System just gets flashing cursor when booting to drive.
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As it has been for many years, the "lifespan" of an OEM OS license is
the lifespan of the computer on which it was purchased. If you elect to
purchase a replacement motherboard from someone other than the original
computer manufacturer, that means that you also elect to no longer use
that OEM license. (Granted, a reputable manufacturer would have
provided a computer that lasted longer, but you chose the OEM.)



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Leythos said:
Actually, MS clearly identifies the MOTHERBOARD as the computer. If the
computer shipped with an OEM copy, then the OEM license is invalidated
when a new motherboard is installed.
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Replacement of a defective motherboard does *not* invalidate an OEM
license.

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Tom said:
Poor analogy Mike!

And it isn't even a viable comparison in this case. I am talking
about real words, having real meanings. In this case with the EULA I
agree to when I click it, not afterwards, and then interpreted on a
website. If this were taken to court, they would force the OEM to
provide hard documentation with the OEM license stating meanings
otherwise, and then to be provided by MS to have very relative
meanings with any service pack, or other provided updates that change
it. IN your analogy, the OEM, and MS gets cut with my knife.
It is patently wrong to have one agree to an already ambiguously
written agreement, to then have other rules apply that actually
aren't written in it!
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Not a poor anology at all, you just have your blinders on. I am not arguing
legalities, I am supplying information. You can use the information any way
you want.
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Michael Stevens said:
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Not a poor anology at all, you just have your blinders on. I am not
arguing legalities, I am supplying information. You can use the
information any way you want.
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Except that information isn't binding, since you reference a website that
interprets hardware to EULA, as what was the topic of discussion. Not in
EULA, not a good source of reliable/valid/binding info otherwise.
 
Replacement of a defective motherboard does *not* invalidate an OEM
license.
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Thanks - I actually corrected that in another post. I was aware of it and
had typed in haste. Thanks.
 
Or upgrading to a new motherboard.

Alias
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Alias, Upgrading to a NEW, meaning Different, motherboard clearly
invalidates the OEM license that was installed with the OLD motherboard
according to MS's own information.
 
Leythos said:
Alias, Upgrading to a NEW, meaning Different, motherboard clearly
invalidates the OEM license that was installed with the OLD motherboard
according to MS's own information.
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No, not according to the OEM EULA, it doesn't. The EULA doesn't link
the license to any specific hardware component, but rather to the entire
computer.


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No, not according to the OEM EULA, it doesn't. The EULA doesn't link
the license to any specific hardware component, but rather to the entire
computer.
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If you want to call the "computer" the entire assembly, then it would be
the first computer as in the entire assembly, which would mean you can't
install an upgraded PSU, etc... On the MS site, they clearly explain that
they define the "Computer" as the motherboard - what's so hard about
understanding MS's definition as it relates to their licensing?
 
Leythos said:
If you want to call the "computer" the entire assembly, then it would be
the first computer as in the entire assembly, which would mean you can't
install an upgraded PSU, etc...
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That doesn't follow, at all.

On the MS site, they clearly explain that
they define the "Computer" as the motherboard - what's so hard about
understanding MS's definition as it relates to their licensing?
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By that reasoning, we must all starting believing that the world is
flat, just because there's a web site that says so.
(http://www.flat-earth.org/) Something posted on Microsoft's web site
is irrelevant. The only documentation/agreement/contract binding upon
the consumer is the EULA. If Microsoft really wants the OEM license to
be bound to any single specific hardware component, they need to change
the EULA.


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Leythos said:
Alias, Upgrading to a NEW, meaning Different, motherboard clearly
invalidates the OEM license that was installed with the OLD motherboard
according to MS's own information.
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No, you're wrong as has been explained many times by many people. YOU'RE
WRONG. GET OVER IT.

Alias
 
Leythos said:
Thanks - I actually corrected that in another post. I was aware of it and
had typed in haste. Thanks.
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Are you finally admitting that there is a real world out there?
 
By that reasoning, we must all starting believing that the world is
flat, just because there's a web site that says so.
(http://www.flat-earth.org/) Something posted on Microsoft's web site
is irrelevant. The only documentation/agreement/contract binding upon
the consumer is the EULA. If Microsoft really wants the OEM license to
be bound to any single specific hardware component, they need to change
the EULA.
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I can only restate what is listed on the MS site concerning OEM software,
that MS considers the computer to be the motherboard - and if you think
about it, the most descriptive/defining part in every computer system is
the motherboard.
 
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