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Ken Blake, MVP
Mike said:
Yes, certainly.
Understood. You are one of many who do so. My only point wa that not all OE
users do.
Yes, certainly.
Understood. You are one of many who do so. My only point wa that not all OE
users do.
C
capitan
Wayne said:
Bring up a Linux machine and run your MS apps on WINE. Or see how well
they migrate to Open Office 2.0. I have been nursing myself off of MS
Office because I hate having to buy it with each new computer I buy
(I've been buying it OEM, mabey not the best way). I have found Open
Office 2.0 to be wonderful, all my MS Office docs transferred over fine,
and it does everything I needed it to do. BTW, there is also a free
download of OpenOffice 2.0 for Windows machines if you don't want to
bring up a Linux machine. Good Luck.
W
Winux P
: Wayne wrote:
: >>You can tell Microsoft what you think is best just as you can tell any
: >>other manufacturer. But they choose how they are going to sell their
: >>product.
: >>From there it is your choice whether to buy theirs or one of the other
: >>alternatives.
: >
: >
: >
: > Can we get a little serious? Is there really any competition against
: > Microsofts operating systems considering that a lot of us grew up on
several
: > microsoft products
: > that today you can't work on one without the other?
: >
: > It reminds me of the hay days at the Xerox corporation. They dominated
the
: > market with their 99 percent share of all photocopiers on the market,
simply
: > because their was no competition and were selling them at rediculous
prices
: > ... because they could. Today Xerox is one tenth their size and
struggling
: > to stay alive.
: >
: > I pray that an Asian company comes out with a far superior operating
sytem
: > one day at half the cost.
: >
: > Please point me to a competitive operating system that I can still work
with
: > all my microsoft files, like publisher files, office files etc.
:
: Bring up a Linux machine and run your MS apps on WINE. Or see how well
: they migrate to Open Office 2.0. I have been nursing myself off of MS
: Office because I hate having to buy it with each new computer I buy
: (I've been buying it OEM, mabey not the best way). I have found Open
: Office 2.0 to be wonderful, all my MS Office docs transferred over fine,
: and it does everything I needed it to do. BTW, there is also a free
: download of OpenOffice 2.0 for Windows machines if you don't want to
: bring up a Linux machine. Good Luck.
:
: --
: capitan
:
:
It will need something as structured and powerful as VBA as a development
language behind it. There will not be a mass transfer or even a trial of it
if specified applications can't easily be constructed from this office
suite. As much as I don't want to admit it MS Office has the upper hand by
far, especially on Excel on Word, Access is the worlds most popular DB
application, even though there are much better desktop DB apps . Using Linux
as well (me that is), keep in mind MS has still not made a version of Office
to run on Linux nor has it made a CLR (.NET Framework) for it. Only meaning
there's little to no business for it. I know it's not in their interest to
do so but, if there where tonnes of Linux boxes in the world they too would
capitalise on it. Love to see an OS that competes with Windows to the point
where MS charges the "real" price for Windows like $AUD 85.00. I'm now
thinking it will never be Linux, whatever takes on Windows successfully will
be something new and catchy and leave Linux and other OS's (other than
Windows) saying Crikey! How simple was that, why didn't we think of that.
Keep up with Linux and OpenOffice, through your 2cents in to the developers
and support as Windows is in serious need of competition (not just consumer
choice, i.e, If you don't like Windows go to Linux rhetoric dismissive
argument). An alternative must be constructed and distributed. So far all
I've seen of Linux in the market place is it can't even be given out for
free and, a whole lot of statistics claims it's ever growing by a great
margin. I can't believe this. MS continues building momentum. Watch .NET
Framework (CLR) do what Sun-Java failed to do so, and the funny part is MS
only need do it to Windows, Sun tried to do for all OSs (binary
communists!).
I do love the Linux OS though.
- Winux P
: >>You can tell Microsoft what you think is best just as you can tell any
: >>other manufacturer. But they choose how they are going to sell their
: >>product.
: >>From there it is your choice whether to buy theirs or one of the other
: >>alternatives.
: >
: >
: >
: > Can we get a little serious? Is there really any competition against
: > Microsofts operating systems considering that a lot of us grew up on
several
: > microsoft products
: > that today you can't work on one without the other?
: >
: > It reminds me of the hay days at the Xerox corporation. They dominated
the
: > market with their 99 percent share of all photocopiers on the market,
simply
: > because their was no competition and were selling them at rediculous
prices
: > ... because they could. Today Xerox is one tenth their size and
struggling
: > to stay alive.
: >
: > I pray that an Asian company comes out with a far superior operating
sytem
: > one day at half the cost.
: >
: > Please point me to a competitive operating system that I can still work
with
: > all my microsoft files, like publisher files, office files etc.
:
: Bring up a Linux machine and run your MS apps on WINE. Or see how well
: they migrate to Open Office 2.0. I have been nursing myself off of MS
: Office because I hate having to buy it with each new computer I buy
: (I've been buying it OEM, mabey not the best way). I have found Open
: Office 2.0 to be wonderful, all my MS Office docs transferred over fine,
: and it does everything I needed it to do. BTW, there is also a free
: download of OpenOffice 2.0 for Windows machines if you don't want to
: bring up a Linux machine. Good Luck.
:
: --
: capitan
:
:
It will need something as structured and powerful as VBA as a development
language behind it. There will not be a mass transfer or even a trial of it
if specified applications can't easily be constructed from this office
suite. As much as I don't want to admit it MS Office has the upper hand by
far, especially on Excel on Word, Access is the worlds most popular DB
application, even though there are much better desktop DB apps . Using Linux
as well (me that is), keep in mind MS has still not made a version of Office
to run on Linux nor has it made a CLR (.NET Framework) for it. Only meaning
there's little to no business for it. I know it's not in their interest to
do so but, if there where tonnes of Linux boxes in the world they too would
capitalise on it. Love to see an OS that competes with Windows to the point
where MS charges the "real" price for Windows like $AUD 85.00. I'm now
thinking it will never be Linux, whatever takes on Windows successfully will
be something new and catchy and leave Linux and other OS's (other than
Windows) saying Crikey! How simple was that, why didn't we think of that.
Keep up with Linux and OpenOffice, through your 2cents in to the developers
and support as Windows is in serious need of competition (not just consumer
choice, i.e, If you don't like Windows go to Linux rhetoric dismissive
argument). An alternative must be constructed and distributed. So far all
I've seen of Linux in the market place is it can't even be given out for
free and, a whole lot of statistics claims it's ever growing by a great
margin. I can't believe this. MS continues building momentum. Watch .NET
Framework (CLR) do what Sun-Java failed to do so, and the funny part is MS
only need do it to Windows, Sun tried to do for all OSs (binary
communists!).
I do love the Linux OS though.
- Winux P
D
David R. Norton MVP
I am offended. Saying "I would rather kiss a lawyer than be seen with
you." is going WAY too far! <G>
K
Kerry Brown
David said:
I wish I had written it. I wouldn't have included that line. I have seen
some very attractive lawyers who I wouldn't mind kissing at all despite
their profession. Change lawyer to CIO and it would make sense.
Kerry
G
Guest
i have inherited an xp pro system at work.
i tried to update the os.
i got an error message that stated the code key was invalid. (a temporary
one or something about as lame)
the question is the directions only stated i needed to get a valid os key,
so how do i do that?
i could get an oem disk with a valid key but what then? do i have to
install something or can just use the key when trying to install the updates?
i know from reading other posts (here and other sites) that reinstalling on
top of xp pro is not recommended. so what do i do, and the simpler the
instructions the better!
i tried to update the os.
i got an error message that stated the code key was invalid. (a temporary
one or something about as lame)
the question is the directions only stated i needed to get a valid os key,
so how do i do that?
i could get an oem disk with a valid key but what then? do i have to
install something or can just use the key when trying to install the updates?
i know from reading other posts (here and other sites) that reinstalling on
top of xp pro is not recommended. so what do i do, and the simpler the
instructions the better!
J
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
A Repair Installation is a good option as far as making the license legal.
Windows XP installs on top of itself very well.
But since the computer is new to you, it is better you perform a Clean
Installation with whatever operating system you choose to install.
This cleans out all garbage the previous owner knowingly and unknowingly
installed.
To get a new key you need to purchase Windows XP or whatever OS you
determine best suits your needs.
Also see:
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/invalpk.htm
Windows XP installs on top of itself very well.
But since the computer is new to you, it is better you perform a Clean
Installation with whatever operating system you choose to install.
This cleans out all garbage the previous owner knowingly and unknowingly
installed.
To get a new key you need to purchase Windows XP or whatever OS you
determine best suits your needs.
Also see:
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/invalpk.htm