Installing Legal Copy of XP Pro

J

Jupiter Jones [MVP]

Wayne;
You may be asking in the wrong place if you are considering a replacement
OS.
Instead search for a forum supporting one or more of the alternatives such
as Linux.
The users there will be better able to explain the advantages of their OS as
well as possible solutions to your migration questions.
Have you looked into it already? Or are you simply assuming?

This newsgroup is for Windows answers and not Linux.

It sounds like you want "an Asian company" to come in and among other
things, take more jobs away from the US. In any case, people will then
whine about "an Asian company" selling their OS for about $100. Little
would change except where people whine.

It is all your choice and not Microsoft or anyone else's.
Use the products you want at the asking price.
You choose what OS to use on each of your computers.
 
W

Wayne

I own 4 computers that I tear apart and upgrade constantly. Not to
Then its obvious you dont have a money problem as you can afford 4 PCs.

Is that justification to buy repeated identical copies?

Let's look at it this way ... If I buy a record .....a song and copy that a
few times for my own personal use ... to have one in my car, one at the
cottage etc. is that wrong?

Let's look at it another way ...... can I possibly sit in front of my 4
computers and keyboards and operate them all at the same time ... NO. I
only have 10 fingers on two hands.
 
A

ANONYMOUS

Generally, you can install the OS on all 4 PCs but the only problem you
are likley to face is that after 30 days, the systems that are not
activated are rendered useless.

Depending on what your hobby consists of you could try backdating the
system date at every boot to by pass 30 day activation time limit. You
need to do this using DOS boot-up cd before rebooting into windows.

Have you heard of 120 days time period after which, apparently, you can
activate on a second PC and 3rd and so on. I don't know how this works
as I haven't tried it and I don't intend to.

My time costs more than the cost of OS.

hth
 
W

Wayne

If you want to run MS apps such as above, then use the OS that allows
them to run.
You hit the nail on the head with what you just said ..... ALLOWS them to
run !!! And THE operating system implying that there is only one! In
essence what you just said was that you HAVE TO HAVE MS's operating system
to run these files. NO CHOICE

Isn't this interesting.
 
H

H. S.

Wayne said:
Can we get a little serious? Is there really any competition against
Microsofts operating systems considering that a lot of us grew up on several
microsoft products
that today you can't work on one without the other?

It reminds me of the hay days at the Xerox corporation. They dominated the
market with their 99 percent share of all photocopiers on the market, simply
because their was no competition and were selling them at rediculous prices
... because they could. Today Xerox is one tenth their size and struggling
to stay alive.

I pray that an Asian company comes out with a far superior operating sytem
one day at half the cost.

Please point me to a competitive operating system that I can still work with
all my microsoft files, like publisher files, office files etc. I need to
migrate all these files that I have worked on over the years. Are you
telling me I can install something like Linux and have no problems, or am I
right ..... MS has no competition and is doing what Xerox had done in their
domination of the market?

Well, that is what you get by supporting proprietory formats. And that
is why this is happening:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_format
 
A

ANONYMOUS

Please point me to a competitive operating system that I can still work with
all my microsoft files, like publisher files, office files etc. I need to
migrate all these files that I have worked on over the years. Are you
telling me I can install something like Linux and have no problems, or am I
right ..... MS has no competition and is doing what Xerox had done in their
domination of the market?


Linux and Open office will do the trick. It is a hobby after all you
don't need expensive stuff do you?

Open office is free so is Linux.

hth
 
A

ANONYMOUS

Hate to tell you but in most cases Publisher, Office, etc. etc. are also
licensed for only one machine.

Kerry


Not correct. Office retail edition is licensed to be installed on
desktop and any other portable device whatever this means. Laptop
perhaps.

Office Students & Teachers on 3 PCs/Laptops.
 
A

ANONYMOUS

Let's look at it another way ...... can I possibly sit in front of my 4
computers and keyboards and operate them all at the same time ... NO. I
only have 10 fingers on two hands.


Hackers seems to manage to use all their computing power to crack
passwords! At our college, one hacker was using 30 PCs to hack into
systems mostly at nights when there is no one around. I caught him,
reported him to the atorities and he is awaiting charges. He is no
longer our student
 
W

Winux P

Wayne,

I know it's highway robbery justified by falsehoods and, you deserve humane
treatment, especially as a diligent citizen and consumer. A little honest
commonsense and self interest, you will be able to utilise your software
being Windows XP on all your computers, for your very own personal home
uses. I know its' distressing as MS does think and even expect you buy a
copy for each home computer but, between you and I we know that expectation
is a fools virtue as the "rewards" of expectation come to fools. Enough of
that and back to the point.

Wayne please by all means install the WinXP on all your computers and
activate them systematically. As a side note (a backside note) CD keys are
"tied" to a class of Windows XP generally being, Upgrade, Retail, OEM and
these days even Pirated, the later case does not apply to you though as
you've purchased it and kept it to yourself. No one here will compliment on
that. I do though and believe that the confusion regarding responses to your
post should be clarified. Installation and activation need not be done all
on the same day. Install on one machine and activate it.

When speaking with the awfully polite PA people (keep in mind that they are
most probably Windows XP users too), you will be asked on why your
installing this copy (remember your copy) of Windows XP again? Don't be
perturbed by this as you're most happy to comply with them and, honestly
tell them you're a computer (WinXP) hobbyist and decided to re-install it as
your on holidays now and you felt like it or, your computer needed it.

Another day, another computer, another installation another phone call to
the diligent PA people. You'll be asked the same questions by a different
person. Why.....blah, blah? This time all you did was remove a network card
(or added one) put a little more RAM in, you get the drift, and need to
install it again. Remember you have the upper hand here cause the irony of
it all is that MS cannot deny you activation on doubt of your copy of
Windows XP. Hear that again, MS cannot deny you activation on doubt, it's
actually illegal for them to act on that premise. They can on certainty
though. I'm sure you get the drift, one more thing for OEM version, you'll
be asked additional questions for activation, if this is the case, you
purchased the OEM with a legitimate piece of hardware (like a HD, RAM, chip,
....) and yes, you're still using that hardware with the OS.

Beware of those whom place one hand on the chest and one pointing to sky and
cry, "EULA", like Moses bestowing the commandments upon us. The irony being
is that EULA brings back the worshiping of cows again. You legally don't
have to and shouldn't agree with EULA and install Windows XP. People do this
and successfully get activated and WGA'd. You only really need on machine to
get WGA'd and use that one to download all the WGA required software
downloads.

Wayne donot feel guilty on false pretences. MS (I know comes a cross as a
hard parent with all the fire and brimstone warnings), I assure you they'll
do nothing as they can't. Use a little commonsense and wit and you should
not have any problems having your very on OS for your personal usage and
more importantly in your home.

- Winux P



: I've broken down and spent Good Money for a legal copy of windows XP Pro
and
: have the following questions?
:
: I own 4 computers that I tear apart and upgrade constantly. Not to
mention
: the computers I have for my kids. Is this going to be a problem with the
: new anti piracy security in windows XP Pro?
:
: Am I aloud to move my one legal copy of XP Pro around on the 4 machines I
: play with?
:
: I'm afraid your going to tell me one license for one machine. Can't I
just
: tell MS about what I have in way of personal machines and that the license
: should be for ME and my hobbie not for ONE machine?
:
: Does MS seriously think I should pay more $ than the several hundred
dollars
: I paid for my one copy to have the operating system on my 4 machines?
:
: On a fresh install ..... do you now have to put in the CD key that came
with
: the XP Pro you bought ... are they tied together some how that the CD and
: Key must match?
:
:
:
 
K

kurttrail

Wayne said:
I've broken down and spent Good Money for a legal copy of windows XP
Pro and have the following questions?

I own 4 computers that I tear apart and upgrade constantly. Not to
mention the computers I have for my kids. Is this going to be a
problem with the new anti piracy security in windows XP Pro?

Am I aloud to move my one legal copy of XP Pro around on the 4
machines I play with?

I'm afraid your going to tell me one license for one machine. Can't
I just tell MS about what I have in way of personal machines and that
the license should be for ME and my hobbie not for ONE machine?

Does MS seriously think I should pay more $ than the several hundred
dollars I paid for my one copy to have the operating system on my 4
machines?
On a fresh install ..... do you now have to put in the CD key that
came with the XP Pro you bought ... are they tied together some how
that the CD and Key must match?

http://mmpafaq.microscum.com/

--
Peace!
Kurt
Self-anointed Moderator
microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
http://microscum.com/mscommunity
"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"
 
A

ANONYMOUS

Wayne said:
You hit the nail on the head with what you just said ..... ALLOWS them to
run !!! And THE operating system implying that there is only one! In
essence what you just said was that you HAVE TO HAVE MS's operating system
to run these files. NO CHOICE

Isn't this interesting.


That's logical don't you think so. MS apps can only run on MS OS unless
specifically made for other systems.
 
M

Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\)

Wayne

MS Office 2004 runs on Mac OS.. how unfair is that?.. we have to make do
with 2003 while Mac users get 2004.. like I said before, you are fast
mutating into a troll..
 
T

Tony

Wayne said:
You guys/gals gotta be kidding me ....

Your right ... one license is sometimes more than I pay for an entire
machine.

OK .. I understand business, and that they want revenue from the operating
sytems tied to every unit, but were is the consideration for people in
situations like mine?

Is there any other operating system I should be looking at that will run my
MS Publisher, MS Office etc etc, or does Bill have us good?

Wayne,

Don't you know, XP stands for eXPensive!

Your alternatives are Linux, Open Office, and
any of the many GUI's written for it (the GUI is not part
of the OS, as it is with Windows):

http://www.centos.org
http://www.openoffice.org
http://www.xfce.org

You can download them for free. But they too come
with a "License." It essentially says that they
are free and meant to stay free. (No repackaging it
as your own and charging for it.)

Linux is a huge culture shock for Windows users,
so you may want to purchase less computer and pay for the
proper number of XP licenses.

HTH,
--Tony
 
K

Kerry Brown

ANONYMOUS said:
Not correct. Office retail edition is licensed to be installed on
desktop and any other portable device whatever this means. Laptop
perhaps.

Office Students & Teachers on 3 PCs/Laptops.

I guess you didn't notice the qualifier "in most cases".

Kerry
 

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