Inserted symbol replaced with question mark on reopen; Why?

G

Guest

Inserting a symbol, such as a paragraph symbol, does NOT save in a file; on
next reopen the symbol is replaced with a question mark. Why?

If you can NOt save symbols, why have the option of adding them to FrontPage
files?

Thanks, Bernard Wotton
 
S

Stefan B Rusynko

The symbol needs to be from the same character set as your page is set for

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| Inserting a symbol, such as a paragraph symbol, does NOT save in a file; on
| next reopen the symbol is replaced with a question mark. Why?
|
| If you can NOt save symbols, why have the option of adding them to FrontPage
| files?
|
| Thanks, Bernard Wotton
 
A

Andrew Murray

What is a "paragraph symbol" - what font is it - eg. webdings or wingdings?

Maybe you don't have the font that supports that particular charcter.
 
G

Guest

Most of text is in the Times New Roman font format.

¶ = the "Pilgrow sign" = new paragraph symbol, Unicode (hex) character code
00B6, or ASCII (decimal) 182, or ASCII (hex) 00B6

(Some Bible versions uses that symbol between the verse number and the First
word of a new paragraph to show where the next paragraph begins. When I copy
& paste those verses into my file, that symbol shows up in the file, when I
save the file, then close down, reopen that file again, the symbol is
replaced with a question mark. Sometimes the quote marks --double or single
--does the same thing, as does some other symbols that I can't think of this
moment...)

After reopening the htlm file I look for the question marks, and use the
insert symbol menu to put the correct symbol back in the file, but it nevers
saves that symbol for future viewing. Why?

I'm using the New Times Roman fonts on that page, and those symbols are very
common ones.

I also would like to quote Greek letters & words in New Testament Greek into
my pages at times. Greek fonts are installed on my system. I haven't tried
doing that yet, because common symbols don't show up when reopening file in
FrontPage, or Internet Explorer or other browsers...

Thanks for all you folks help...
Bernard Wotton
 
R

Ronx

Insert the symbol as an entity
¶ (& # 182; without spaces), or as ¶ (& para; without
space)
If your page is coded as charset=UTF-8 then inserting the symbol as an
ASCII character may result in its being displayed as a "?". Note that
if editing live, the coding delivered by the server in HTTP headers
will overide any character set code set in the page HTML, such as
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
charset=ISO-8859-1">
 
G

Guest

Hi again,

Those symbols do show up on my web site pages...

But what I'm also doing is just regular .htm pages which are not part of any
web site. I'm using FrontPage 2003 to edit htm files or pages, some of which
are very large. As far as I know, and have been doing, I can and do use any
font that is on my system in those pages, & use the "Inser" > "Symbol" to
insert symbols that I want to use at some point in the doc. The menu
selection automatically uses the font type that I'm using at that point in
the doc, and I guess I could use any other font too, if some other font's
symbol shows up better then the one in the current font.

Are just regular htm pages treated differently then Web pages? Those symbols
show up on web pages, but not on saved htm pages. Why? and how to make them
show up in hlm pages that I'm making just for my own use?

Thanks, Bernard Wotton
 
G

Guest

Hi, Ronx

OK, I changed the first line of code in that hlm page from

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" ?>
to
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="ASCII" ?>

Now those symbols are saved in the doc when reopening file... in FrontPage
2003

Thanks...Ronx

I hope it contines to work ok, I had to literally go into code mode and
make those changes by hand by copy & page the other encoding name in place of
the original one. That is scary business for one who does not know anything
about programming!

Thanks to all you people who help us do the things we want done in our doc
pages!
 

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