In what order to startup programs start?

[mm]

In what order to startup programs start?

Is there any relationship between the order in which startup programs
are listed in msconfig (or MSinfo32) and the order in which they
actually start?

Better yet, what is the order in which they actually start? That is,
there is the registry for current user, and I think for everyone,
there is the start up folder for an individual user, and one for
everyone, and iirc there are two more sections.

Right now, my friend's computer had Windows Defender installed, but
afaict, not in the startup routine. I want it to start and run, and I
put in the startup folder for C:\Documents and Settings\All
users\start menu\programs\startup and it starts but with an asterisk,
which means it's not running.

I've read that other anti-malware turn it off, but when I start it by
hand after startup, it continues to run. So I think that means it has
started before the other AV program. EVen though it's not in the
registry but a startup program and even though it's at the bottom of
the list in msconfig. Does my conclusion make sense?

Hmmm. Within a registry run entry, do they start in the
line-after-line order they show up in regedit?

Thanks a lot.

 

[Bob]

http://download.cnet.com/Startup-Control-Center/3000-2094_4-10209453.html

 

[mm]

http://download.cnet.com/Startup-Control-Center/3000-2094_4-10209453.html

Wow, this is great. Free for 15 days, then 20 dollars.

IIUC it doesn't actually say which group gets run first, but I found
some webpages that probably talk about that, and this makes moving
things around so easy that I can run a few tests and figure it out.

(There are 3 AV products actually. Superantispyware says it doesn't
conflict with anything, but even if it does, there only six possible
orders. And I can see the icons as they appear in the systran and I
know that SAS installs last.)

More to the point, I'm not sure what happened**, but now Windows
Defeneder starts okay. I hope it and AVG don't interact badly, but
she'll tell me I hope.

It doesnt' have a facility for changing order when more than one
folder is involved, but it was easy enough to make a new entry, this
time to copy the command from an old shortcut and paste it into a new
entry.

Thanks a lot. None of the five webpages I googled included this.


I also see that installation put superantispyware in Current User, and
all the other registry items are in All Users. I wonder why it did
that. It doesn't matter because this computer has only one user, but
it's curious. And that would be why it runs last, because All Users
runs before Current User in the registry.

There is also what they call autostart, and its installer put Dialog
Helper in the Current user folder. Again I wonder why, but it doesnt'
matter. In installed this and SuperAntiSpyware and I know SAS didn't
ask me if I wanted it for all users or not. I always answer yes, all.


**That is, Windows Defender is last in the list, as this program
displays it, but in the systray, it's 3rd from the right, which I
think means it's the third to appear, and that's before AVG. I
thought this should start last to stay running, but come to think of
it, wasn't it already starting last, since it was in Documents and
Settings, and don't registry items start before that?

 

[(PeteCresswell)]

Per mm:

Wow, this is great. Free for 15 days, then 20 dollars.

IIUC it doesn't actually say which group gets run first, but I found
some webpages that probably talk about that, and this makes moving
things around so easy that I can run a few tests and figure it out.

I just tried it too - seems useful for me. On the first try, I
must have fat-fingered something and wound with some blatant CNET
marketing tool... but then I read your post, realized what I had
done, and d/l's the real deal.

I see a bunch of entities that I do not recognize and need to
find out about - and probably disable/uninstall.

It's probably in the manual, but does anybody know how to
determine the ultimate sequence these things get executed in?

Or is it implicit in the tree view (i.e. Autostart.AllUsers
==>AutoStart.CurrentUser ==> Registry.AllUsers.Run ==>
Registry.AllUser.RunOnce... and so-forth)?