I'm having trouble with Vista

[:: Alias ::]

I'm simply copying files from one hard drive to another, not over any
network. It doesn't matter if from one internal drive to another or
from some internal drive to an external drive or the other way around.
The process is sometimes much slower than XP or going out of the shell
and using something else to copy.

I'm noticed others have similar problems. Is this a known issue?

It's a known Windows issue, made worse with Vista with its indexing. I
have both XP and Ubuntu installed, with XP on a faster computer. Ubuntu
does file transfers MUCH faster than XP.

Alias

 

[Need to Know]

Look who's talking. My posting history has very little insults and no lies.

Only you know when you're lying. And you do insult and you attack people.

 

[fb]

:: Alias :: wrote:

Liar. FUD spreader. In short, you're a troll.

That's your job, mr liar, mr troll, mr FUD spreader.
Get lost loser!

 

[Alias]

Only you know when you're lying.

So you accusing me of lying is what?

And you do insult and you attack people.

Only when they deserve it.

Alia

 

[fb]

Look who's talking. My posting history has very little insults and no lies.

OMG! You're sick in the head! You are a known and admitted liar, thief,
spammer, linux troll, and a bigoted atheist.
Most of all, you lie to yourself. Self deception is your real sickness.
Maybe your weak personage coupled with your arrogance is the problem.
But for sure you're one really fukked up POS!

 

[the wharf rat]

You do realize Ubuntu is based on Debian right? Just wondering since

Ubuntu has a lot of front end stuff grafted on.

I personally find KDE far too cluttered but I suppose I can see it's
appeal to a windows user in being windows-like.

Gnome is just too damn cute. I won't even install it.

 

[Mike Hall - MVP]

Reading it once was enough. You attempted to lie and got caught. Is
that the approved Microsoft policy for MVPs?

If you want to argue, go to one of the many Yahoo chat rooms in existence..


--
Mike Hall - MVP
How to construct a good post..
http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc
Mike's Window - My Blog..
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

 

[Need to Know]

It's a known Windows issue, made worse with Vista with its indexing. I
have both XP and Ubuntu installed, with XP on a faster computer. Ubuntu
does file transfers MUCH faster than XP.

That's garbage Alias about the indexing because of the out of the box
defaults that are indexed.

http://www.realtime-vista.com/administration/2006/12/vista_indexing_options.htm

Maybe the OP can do somethings to and tweak.

<http://www.mydigitallife.info/2007/...-delete-operation-speed-problem-in-vista-fix/>

 

[Need to Know]

So you accusing me of lying is what?

I am not accusing you of anything but being a troll. Where the heck do
you come to the conclusion that I accused you of lying based on my
statement above.

You accused me of lying with your statement above that.

Only when they deserve it.

There you go. You're not the saint you keep pretending to be.

 

[Mill Yanaire]

I am not accusing you of anything but being a troll. Where the heck do you
come to the conclusion that I accused you of lying based on my statement
above.

You accused me of lying with your statement above that.


There you go. You're not the saint you keep pretending to be.

No, but he's the Sheep-****er he brags about being

 

[SG]

Maybe you should be more considerate of people asking for help and not
jump to conclusions or be defensive. I expected more from a MVP. It
seems you have a thing for P2P sites. I never use them, yet you
immediately jumped to that conclusion. As far as being specific maybe
that would be a good suggestion on how you should frame your replies
being a MVP and all rather than your shotgun response which totally
missed the mark.

It appears some here are more interested in furthering their agenda
than actually trying to help. I have already said in a reply to
someone else the crash most annoying to me is Windows Explorer and my
downloading of music was with Urge.

Gotermeyer,

This is your original post.....
Quote:
Been using Home Premium SP1 32 bit for several months, file copying
seems way slower than XP and it crashes a lot for no apparent reason.
I mostly use for web surfing and downloading music and some work
related document writing. I've been thinking of trying Ubuntu, since
Vista doesn't seem stable. Opinions?
End Quote

I fail to see anywhere in that post where you ask for help. You only ask for
opinions about trying Ubuntu or did I missed something here? BTW, Mike's
reply about Downloading music via P2P is a surefire way to pick up crap that
will slow your machine up and cause it to crash could be taken wrong by you.
I'm not Mike and I don't speak for him, however he may have easily meant
someone whom might not know the dangers of a P2P program and not even know
the legality of such. I guarantee you that there is no one in these groups,
myself included, hasn't at some point had something illegal on their system,
but it's also likely they didn't even know it until it was brought to their
attention. I've worked on thousands of systems over the years for my
customers and still to this day I see this all the time where they are
shocked to find out some of the things they have is not legal. It's not
because it was their intention, they were just uneducated.


--
All the best,
SG

Is your computer system ready for Vista?
https://winqual.microsoft.com/hcl/
Want to keep up with the latest news from MS?
http://news.google.com/nwshp?tab=wn&ned=us&topic=t
Just type in Microsoft

 

[Pete Stavrakoglou]

If you want to argue, go to one of the many Yahoo chat rooms in
existence..

Mike, this is one of those moments where you expect Allen Funt to show up.
Either that or look for that brick wall to bang your head against. It's
futile.

 

[Censored Syndrome]

Ubuntu has a lot of front end stuff grafted on.

Gnome is just too damn cute. I won't even install it.

I guess you are an plain X guy? Slackware by any chance?

ss.

 

[Censored Syndrome]

3. You download music

You didn't say where, and P2P sites can be dangerous

Maybe you should be a bit more specific, and in being so, we can maybe
give more specific answers..

Downloading music from legitimate sites is the norm these days, and CD sales
have plummeted, so your assumption is further unwarranted.

Now that internet downloads are included on the UK music charts, we're
always going to have bloody Slade and other seasonal travesties in the
charts every Christmas, even when they are not re-issued.

ss.

 

[Charlie Tame]

Where are you copying files to/from? Some Vista file operations are
quicker than XP, some are slower. Knowing exactly what you're doing will
help diagnose the cause of the slowness.

Are there any errors in the event logs related to the crashes? Open the
Performance and Reliability Monitor. Click on Reliability Monitor. Click
on the red X's to see the errors.

As far as Ubuntu being more reliable than Vista I'd say they are about
equal. Assuming no physical hardware problems both depend on the
reliability of the drivers for your particular hardware. I run both on
several different computers. I currently have no reliability issues with
either. I have had reliability issues with both when buggy drivers were
in use. I do still have some programs on both that are problematical.
With both OS's I can lock them up solid just by running an incompatible
program.

I would have to agree although my Vista machines seem to have developed
irritations since SP1 was installed.

I think Ubuntu is less solid than Debian, probably that is simply due to
having more things to go wrong and perhaps more to stretch the hardware.

 

[Charlie Tame]

I'm simply copying files from one hard drive to another, not over any
network. It doesn't matter if from one internal drive to another or
from some internal drive to an external drive or the other way around.
The process is sometimes much slower than XP or going out of the shell
and using something else to copy.

I'm noticed others have similar problems. Is this a known issue?

There are no errors of any kind nor any events recorded in any logs.

Thanks for a fair and objective answer not colored by any bias. The
problem I see over and over has nothing to do with my applications but
it seems to be Vista itself since it is Explorer that is slow in
copying files and again it is Explorer that keeps saying it needs to
shut down either when first bringing it up or if it is middle of doing
something. Since no external third party drivers are involved in
copying files this problem seems embedded in Windows itself. I have
also seen in XP and I think 2000 as well but to a lessor degree.

Yes 100% agree, it seems to have been there all along since W2000.
Probably most people do not try to copy enough to notice it but for
example with XP I always found that if you tried to copy a folder with a
lot in it there would always be something that failed. Sometimes for
really strange reasons.

 

[DanS]

I still hate that the Title bars/Window borders disappear when I move
the mouse over the Min/Max/Close buttons.

Stinking compiz !

Here's a thread with discussion of this issue:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/152493

 

[Kerry Brown]

I'm simply copying files from one hard drive to another, not over any
network. It doesn't matter if from one internal drive to another or
from some internal drive to an external drive or the other way around.
The process is sometimes much slower than XP or going out of the shell
and using something else to copy.

Don't know what would cause this. I'd suspect the controller driver but if
it works OK outside of Explorer then that won't be the cause. Try turning
off you AV and see if that helps.

I'm noticed others have similar problems. Is this a known issue?

There are no errors of any kind nor any events recorded in any logs.

What exactly happens when it crashes? It would be very unusual for a crash
to happen with noting in the event logs. Can you describe what you see on
the screen when it crashes?

Thanks for a fair and objective answer not colored by any bias. The
problem I see over and over has nothing to do with my applications but
it seems to be Vista itself since it is Explorer that is slow in
copying files and again it is Explorer that keeps saying it needs to
shut down either when first bringing it up or if it is middle of doing
something. Since no external third party drivers are involved in
copying files this problem seems embedded in Windows itself. I have
also seen in XP and I think 2000 as well but to a lessor degree.

There are several drivers involved in copying a file - chipset drivers,
controller drivers, and probably more. If you get a message that Explorer
needs to shut down there will be an error in the event logs.

 

[Ringmaster]

OMG! You're sick in the head! You are a known and admitted liar, thief,
spammer, linux troll, and a bigoted atheist.
Most of all, you lie to yourself. Self deception is your real sickness.
Maybe your weak personage coupled with your arrogance is the problem.
But for sure you're one really fukked up POS!

Speaking of liars and thrives, here's an example of how the idiot
Frank gets caught in his lies:

The complete idiot and obvious mental case Frankie the ****wit has
been posting the same slop over and over trying to say some demented
poster named PowerUser wrote it about me.

Just hate speech. Idiot Frank, the "good Christian" he wants everyone
to think he is simply changed to Adam Albright form the original
target, surprise, the Pope.

Here's the actual quote lifted from where squirrel brains might have
got it:

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2005/04/billmon_shoes_o.html#c4739952

"The Pope does not merely undermine the current world order. He does
so consciously, deliberately, willfully, and methodically."

Much of the remaining flowery hate speech phrases Frankie ****wit cut
and pasted saying they were directed to me appear in kook religious
newsgroups again directed at the Pope and other leaders.

Apparently Frank visits such right wing religious kook groups, since
we all know the language is at a level far beyond Frank's abilities,
him being nothing but a simple minded cut and paste jockey. The quote
above from some wack job named Martin Luther. If you know your
history, you know who the real Martin Luther was.

So as usual Frank the total ****wit slips and falls face first in his
own shit. Nothing new there, he does it all the time.

Ringmaster is happy to expose the idiots for what they are.

Enjoy the circus, Frank is the main attraction of our freak show. We
don't have to play him a dime. After performing Frank is put in a pen
with a couple sheep and he's as happy as a clam.

 

[Frank]

Ringmaster wrote:

----------------------------------------

You're still stinking falling down drunk today huh?
Figures.
Here the truth about...read'em and weep you stupid PUTZ!...LOL!

By PowerUser:
"Licentious. Obnoxious. Anti-democratic. In case you can't tell, I'm
making a direct reference to Mr. Adam Albright. Before I launch into my
main topic, I want to make a few matters crystal-clear: (1) Failure to
recognize this salient point will result in Adam's getting free reign to
enshrine irrational fears and fancies as truth, and (2) as a result of
that, my observations are perhaps unique. Now that you know where I
stand on those issues, I can safely say that wily cutthroats like Adam
are not born -- they are excreted. However unsavory that metaphor may
be, Adam acts as if he were King of the World. This hauteur is
astonishing, staggering, and mind-boggling. He truly believes that he
defends the real needs of the working class. It is just such
counter-productive megalomania, muddleheaded egoism, and intellectual
aberrancy that stirs Adam to carve out space in the mainstream for
ungrateful politics.

I want to draw two important conclusions from this. The first is that
Adam and his gofers are wolves in sheep's clothing who will create
profound emotional distress for people on both sides of the issue
eventually, and the second is that the justification he gave for seeking
to judge people by the color of their skin while ignoring the content of
their character was one of the most addlepated justifications I've ever
heard. It was so addlepated, in fact, that I will not repeat it here.
Even without hearing the details you can still see my point quite
clearly: Adam keeps telling everyone within earshot that honesty and
responsibility have no cash value and are therefore worthless. I'm
guessing that Adam read that on some Web site of dubious validity. More
reliable sources generally indicate that he isn't as smart as he thinks
he is. As an interesting experiment, try to point this out to
Adam. (You might want to don safety equipment first.) I think you'll
find that if he had even a shred of intellectual integrity, he'd admit
that he has no evidence or examples to back up his point. Still, I
recommend you check out some of his commentaries and draw your own
conclusions on the matter. Adam teaches workshops on clericalism.
Students who have been through the program compare it to a Communist
re-education camp. Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to
repeat it. Of course, if Adam had learned anything from history, he'd
know that I challenge him to point out any text in this letter that
proposes that we ought to worship feckless mountebanks as folk heroes.
It isn't there. There's neither a hint nor a suggestion of such a thing.


We no longer have the luxury of indulging in universalist, altruistic
principles that, no matter how noble they may appear, have enabled the
most self-satisfied spouters I've ever seen to compose paeans to
irrationalism. Didn't Adam tell his comrades that he wants to make
people suspicious of those who speak the truth? Did he first give any
thought to what would happen if he did? Of course, that question is
ridiculous -- as ridiculous as his gormless platitudes. None but the
grotesque can deny that he says that the sun rises just for him. What he
means by this, of course, is that he wants free reign to threaten the
existence of human life, perhaps all life on the planet. I understand
that I become truly impatient with people who refuse to recognize the
key role that he is playing in the destruction of our civilization, but
from the fog and mist of his disquisitions rises the leering grimace of
nihilism. An equal but opposite observation is that I and Adam part
company when it comes to the issue of quislingism. He feels that
those who disagree with him should be cast into the outer darkness,
should be shunned, should starve, while I suspect that he needs to stop
living in a fool's paradise. But there's the rub; his idea of mutinous
autism is no political belief. It is a fierce and burning gospel of
hatred and intolerance, of murder and destruction, and the unloosing of
an irascible blood-lust. It is, in every sense, a doctrinaire and pagan
religion that incites its worshipers to an infernal frenzy and then
prompts them to precipitate riots.


Adam does not merely undermine the current world order. He does so
consciously, deliberately, willfully, and methodically. His undertakings
were never about tolerance and equality. That was just window dressing
for the "innocents". Rather, someone has been giving Adam's brain a very
thorough washing, and now Adam is trying to do the same to us. Several
things he has said have brought me to the boiling point. The statement
of his that made the strongest impression on me, however, was something
to the effect of how he is a refined gentleman with the soundest
education and morals you can imagine. Forgive me for boring you with all
the gory details, but Adam's hypocrisy is transparent. Even the least
discerning among us can see right through it.


It's easy to tell if Adam's lying. If his lips are moving, he's lying.
Although Adam demonstrates a great deal of ignorance and presumption
when he says that he commands an army of robots that live in the hollow
center of the earth and produce earthquakes whenever they feel like
shaking things up a bit on the surface, the fact remains that in order
to convince us that he has the authority to issue licenses for
practicing heathenism, Adam often turns to the old propagandist trick of
comparing results brought about by entirely dissimilar causes. Now that
you've read the bulk of this letter, it should not come as a complete
surprise that there can be no argument that when I first realized that
Mr. Adam Albright is a proponent of "paternalism" -- a term Adam uses
catachrestically in place of "Pyrrhonism" -- a cold shudder ran down my
back. However, this fact bears repeating again and again, until the
words crack through the hardened exteriors of those who would violate
the basic tenets of journalism and scholarship. I am referring, of
course, to the likes of Adam Albright."

Want to read more about this failed drunken accountant and big mouth
lying pig?
For your reading pleasure!

http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?hl=en&enc_user=tYag3woAAABrYFiZuwWGCKzw8oMmJKS7

Enjoy!
I know I did!...LOL!
Frank