If not Zone Alarm then what? Outbound filtering still needed.

[JS]

So is a one way firewall.

JS

Ridiculous comment.

Sort of like monitoring who walks into your house,
but you don't care who walks back out and what they are carrying.

JS

On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 10:46:05 -0400, Big_Al wrote:

I like the outbound traffic filter in Zone Alarm. I use the free
version, however free is not the primary need. But I've read here so
many comments about not using ZA and just use windows firewall, or just
negative comments about ZA.

I would like to know, is there another program that will filter
outbound
traffic and is better than ZA?

For the average homeuser, the Windows Firewall in XP does a fantastic
job
at its core mission and is really all you need if you have an
'real-time'
anti-virus program, [another firewall on your router or] other edge
protection like SeconfigXP and practise safe-hex.
The windows firewall deals with inbound protection and therefore does
not
give you a false sense of security. Best of all, it doesn't implement
lots
of nonsense like pretending that outbound traffic needs to be monitored.

At Least This Snake Oil Is Free.
http://msinfluentials.com/blogs/jesper/archive/2007/07/19/at-least-this-snake-oil-is-free.aspx

Deconstructing Common Security Myths.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/technetmag/issues/2006/05/SecurityMyths/default.aspx
Scroll down to:
"Myth: Host-Based Firewalls Must Filter Outbound Traffic to be Safe."

Exploring the windows Firewall.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/technetmag/issues/2007/06/VistaFirewall/default.aspx
"Outbound protection is security theater¡Xit¡¦s a gimmick that only
gives the
impression of improving your security without doing anything that
actually
does improve your security."

In conjunction with WinXP SP2 Firewall use:
Seconfig XP 1.0
http://seconfig.sytes.net/
(http://www.softpedia.com/progDownload/Seconfig-XP-Download-39707.html)
Seconfig XP is able configure Windows not to use TCP/IP as transport
protocol for NetBIOS, SMB and RPC, thus leaving TCP/UDP ports 135,
137-139
and 445 (the most exploited Windows networking weak point) closed.
OR
Configuring NT-services much more secure.
http://www.ntsvcfg.de/ntsvcfg_eng.html

 

[Unknown]

Nope! That is sheer stupidity. To prove, remove and your computer will even
run better.

So is a one way firewall.

JS

Ridiculous comment.

Sort of like monitoring who walks into your house,
but you don't care who walks back out and what they are carrying.

JS

On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 10:46:05 -0400, Big_Al wrote:

I like the outbound traffic filter in Zone Alarm. I use the free
version, however free is not the primary need. But I've read here so
many comments about not using ZA and just use windows firewall, or
just
negative comments about ZA.

I would like to know, is there another program that will filter
outbound
traffic and is better than ZA?

For the average homeuser, the Windows Firewall in XP does a fantastic
job
at its core mission and is really all you need if you have an
'real-time'
anti-virus program, [another firewall on your router or] other edge
protection like SeconfigXP and practise safe-hex.
The windows firewall deals with inbound protection and therefore does
not
give you a false sense of security. Best of all, it doesn't implement
lots
of nonsense like pretending that outbound traffic needs to be
monitored.

At Least This Snake Oil Is Free.
http://msinfluentials.com/blogs/jesper/archive/2007/07/19/at-least-this-snake-oil-is-free.aspx

Deconstructing Common Security Myths.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/technetmag/issues/2006/05/SecurityMyths/default.aspx
Scroll down to:
"Myth: Host-Based Firewalls Must Filter Outbound Traffic to be Safe."

Exploring the windows Firewall.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/technetmag/issues/2007/06/VistaFirewall/default.aspx
"Outbound protection is security theater¡Xit¡¦s a gimmick that only
gives the
impression of improving your security without doing anything that
actually
does improve your security."

In conjunction with WinXP SP2 Firewall use:
Seconfig XP 1.0
http://seconfig.sytes.net/
(http://www.softpedia.com/progDownload/Seconfig-XP-Download-39707.html)
Seconfig XP is able configure Windows not to use TCP/IP as transport
protocol for NetBIOS, SMB and RPC, thus leaving TCP/UDP ports 135,
137-139
and 445 (the most exploited Windows networking weak point) closed.
OR
Configuring NT-services much more secure.
http://www.ntsvcfg.de/ntsvcfg_eng.html

 

[JS]

Any application running in the background will slow down a computer so
removing it proves nothing.

JS

Nope! That is sheer stupidity. To prove, remove and your computer will
even run better.

So is a one way firewall.

JS

Ridiculous comment.
Sort of like monitoring who walks into your house,
but you don't care who walks back out and what they are carrying.

JS

On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 10:46:05 -0400, Big_Al wrote:

I like the outbound traffic filter in Zone Alarm. I use the free
version, however free is not the primary need. But I've read here
so
many comments about not using ZA and just use windows firewall, or
just
negative comments about ZA.

I would like to know, is there another program that will filter
outbound
traffic and is better than ZA?

For the average homeuser, the Windows Firewall in XP does a fantastic
job
at its core mission and is really all you need if you have an
'real-time'
anti-virus program, [another firewall on your router or] other edge
protection like SeconfigXP and practise safe-hex.
The windows firewall deals with inbound protection and therefore does
not
give you a false sense of security. Best of all, it doesn't implement
lots
of nonsense like pretending that outbound traffic needs to be
monitored.

At Least This Snake Oil Is Free.
http://msinfluentials.com/blogs/jesper/archive/2007/07/19/at-least-this-snake-oil-is-free.aspx

Deconstructing Common Security Myths.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/technetmag/issues/2006/05/SecurityMyths/default.aspx
Scroll down to:
"Myth: Host-Based Firewalls Must Filter Outbound Traffic to be Safe."

Exploring the windows Firewall.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/technetmag/issues/2007/06/VistaFirewall/default.aspx
"Outbound protection is security theater¡Xit¡¦s a gimmick that only
gives the
impression of improving your security without doing anything that
actually
does improve your security."

In conjunction with WinXP SP2 Firewall use:
Seconfig XP 1.0
http://seconfig.sytes.net/
(http://www.softpedia.com/progDownload/Seconfig-XP-Download-39707.html)
Seconfig XP is able configure Windows not to use TCP/IP as transport
protocol for NetBIOS, SMB and RPC, thus leaving TCP/UDP ports 135,
137-139
and 445 (the most exploited Windows networking weak point) closed.
OR
Configuring NT-services much more secure.
http://www.ntsvcfg.de/ntsvcfg_eng.html

 

[Unknown]

Of course it does. If you don't install useless programs your computer runs
better.
Zone Alarm is useless. Run your computer without it and you'll never miss
it.

Any application running in the background will slow down a computer so
removing it proves nothing.

JS

Nope! That is sheer stupidity. To prove, remove and your computer will
even run better.

So is a one way firewall.

JS

Ridiculous comment.
Sort of like monitoring who walks into your house,
but you don't care who walks back out and what they are carrying.

JS

On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 10:46:05 -0400, Big_Al wrote:

I like the outbound traffic filter in Zone Alarm. I use the free
version, however free is not the primary need. But I've read here
so
many comments about not using ZA and just use windows firewall, or
just
negative comments about ZA.

I would like to know, is there another program that will filter
outbound
traffic and is better than ZA?

For the average homeuser, the Windows Firewall in XP does a fantastic
job
at its core mission and is really all you need if you have an
'real-time'
anti-virus program, [another firewall on your router or] other edge
protection like SeconfigXP and practise safe-hex.
The windows firewall deals with inbound protection and therefore does
not
give you a false sense of security. Best of all, it doesn't implement
lots
of nonsense like pretending that outbound traffic needs to be
monitored.

At Least This Snake Oil Is Free.
http://msinfluentials.com/blogs/jesper/archive/2007/07/19/at-least-this-snake-oil-is-free.aspx

Deconstructing Common Security Myths.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/technetmag/issues/2006/05/SecurityMyths/default.aspx
Scroll down to:
"Myth: Host-Based Firewalls Must Filter Outbound Traffic to be Safe."

Exploring the windows Firewall.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/technetmag/issues/2007/06/VistaFirewall/default.aspx
"Outbound protection is security theater¡Xit¡¦s a gimmick that only
gives the
impression of improving your security without doing anything that
actually
does improve your security."

In conjunction with WinXP SP2 Firewall use:
Seconfig XP 1.0
http://seconfig.sytes.net/
(http://www.softpedia.com/progDownload/Seconfig-XP-Download-39707.html)
Seconfig XP is able configure Windows not to use TCP/IP as transport
protocol for NetBIOS, SMB and RPC, thus leaving TCP/UDP ports 135,
137-139
and 445 (the most exploited Windows networking weak point) closed.
OR
Configuring NT-services much more secure.
http://www.ntsvcfg.de/ntsvcfg_eng.html

 

[JS]

Sorry, but it's my computer, I am the "Administrator" and I get to decide
(even with so called honest applications) what programs can and can not
connect to the Internet, for updates or other purposes. I always do Image
backups before allowing any major software package and others apps like
Java, Adobe Reader, Windows Update to download and install any time they
feel like it.

JS

Of course it does. If you don't install useless programs your computer
runs better.
Zone Alarm is useless. Run your computer without it and you'll never miss
it.

Any application running in the background will slow down a computer so
removing it proves nothing.

JS

Nope! That is sheer stupidity. To prove, remove and your computer will
even run better.
So is a one way firewall.

JS

Ridiculous comment.
Sort of like monitoring who walks into your house,
but you don't care who walks back out and what they are carrying.

JS

On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 10:46:05 -0400, Big_Al wrote:

I like the outbound traffic filter in Zone Alarm. I use the free
version, however free is not the primary need. But I've read here
so
many comments about not using ZA and just use windows firewall, or
just
negative comments about ZA.

I would like to know, is there another program that will filter
outbound
traffic and is better than ZA?

For the average homeuser, the Windows Firewall in XP does a
fantastic job
at its core mission and is really all you need if you have an
'real-time'
anti-virus program, [another firewall on your router or] other edge
protection like SeconfigXP and practise safe-hex.
The windows firewall deals with inbound protection and therefore
does not
give you a false sense of security. Best of all, it doesn't
implement lots
of nonsense like pretending that outbound traffic needs to be
monitored.

At Least This Snake Oil Is Free.
http://msinfluentials.com/blogs/jesper/archive/2007/07/19/at-least-this-snake-oil-is-free.aspx

Deconstructing Common Security Myths.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/technetmag/issues/2006/05/SecurityMyths/default.aspx
Scroll down to:
"Myth: Host-Based Firewalls Must Filter Outbound Traffic to be
Safe."

Exploring the windows Firewall.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/technetmag/issues/2007/06/VistaFirewall/default.aspx
"Outbound protection is security theater¡Xit¡¦s a gimmick that only
gives the
impression of improving your security without doing anything that
actually
does improve your security."

In conjunction with WinXP SP2 Firewall use:
Seconfig XP 1.0
http://seconfig.sytes.net/
(http://www.softpedia.com/progDownload/Seconfig-XP-Download-39707.html)
Seconfig XP is able configure Windows not to use TCP/IP as transport
protocol for NetBIOS, SMB and RPC, thus leaving TCP/UDP ports 135,
137-139
and 445 (the most exploited Windows networking weak point) closed.
OR
Configuring NT-services much more secure.
http://www.ntsvcfg.de/ntsvcfg_eng.html

 

[Unknown]

Of course it's your computer. But, that doesn't negate you from false
beliefs.

Sorry, but it's my computer, I am the "Administrator" and I get to decide
(even with so called honest applications) what programs can and can not
connect to the Internet, for updates or other purposes. I always do Image
backups before allowing any major software package and others apps like
Java, Adobe Reader, Windows Update to download and install any time they
feel like it.

JS

Of course it does. If you don't install useless programs your computer
runs better.
Zone Alarm is useless. Run your computer without it and you'll never miss
it.

Any application running in the background will slow down a computer so
removing it proves nothing.

JS

Nope! That is sheer stupidity. To prove, remove and your computer will
even run better.
So is a one way firewall.

JS

Ridiculous comment.
Sort of like monitoring who walks into your house,
but you don't care who walks back out and what they are carrying.

JS

On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 10:46:05 -0400, Big_Al wrote:

I like the outbound traffic filter in Zone Alarm. I use the free
version, however free is not the primary need. But I've read
here so
many comments about not using ZA and just use windows firewall, or
just
negative comments about ZA.

I would like to know, is there another program that will filter
outbound
traffic and is better than ZA?

For the average homeuser, the Windows Firewall in XP does a
fantastic job
at its core mission and is really all you need if you have an
'real-time'
anti-virus program, [another firewall on your router or] other edge
protection like SeconfigXP and practise safe-hex.
The windows firewall deals with inbound protection and therefore
does not
give you a false sense of security. Best of all, it doesn't
implement lots
of nonsense like pretending that outbound traffic needs to be
monitored.

At Least This Snake Oil Is Free.
http://msinfluentials.com/blogs/jesper/archive/2007/07/19/at-least-this-snake-oil-is-free.aspx

Deconstructing Common Security Myths.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/technetmag/issues/2006/05/SecurityMyths/default.aspx
Scroll down to:
"Myth: Host-Based Firewalls Must Filter Outbound Traffic to be
Safe."

Exploring the windows Firewall.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/technetmag/issues/2007/06/VistaFirewall/default.aspx
"Outbound protection is security theater¡Xit¡¦s a gimmick that only
gives the
impression of improving your security without doing anything that
actually
does improve your security."

In conjunction with WinXP SP2 Firewall use:
Seconfig XP 1.0
http://seconfig.sytes.net/
(http://www.softpedia.com/progDownload/Seconfig-XP-Download-39707.html)
Seconfig XP is able configure Windows not to use TCP/IP as
transport
protocol for NetBIOS, SMB and RPC, thus leaving TCP/UDP ports 135,
137-139
and 445 (the most exploited Windows networking weak point) closed.
OR
Configuring NT-services much more secure.
http://www.ntsvcfg.de/ntsvcfg_eng.html