IE 7 - malware?

[Old Enough]

I have a HP 1315 all-in-one printer-scanner-copier.
Really good piece of equipment - works great.
The main control panel is "HP Director", which allows me to scan
pictures and documents, make copies, edit graphics and photographs,
etc.

A day or two ago, when I tried to load HP Director, the panel did not
appear on the desktop. Pushing Ctrl-Alt-Delete showed that the
program had in fact loaded, but there was no way I could get the
desktop panel to come up.
I un-installed and re-installed the program - twice. No joy.

Googling the situation, I was lead to believe that this might be
caused by the upgrading of Internet Explorer to v. 7.
Basically, I don't use IE, but there seems to be no reasonable method
of getting rid of it. But that's not the question here.
Also, since I do some (very little) web design, I use IE at times just
to check my work.

OK - I reverted back to IE v. 6. My HP program once again works like
a charm.

Question: What does one call programs that (partially) disable other
legitimate programs? Malware? Something else? What would cause IE v.
7 to fall in that category?

Thanks for any insights!

_________________________________
Old Enough
to know I don't know a thing ....

 

[Nepatsfan]

In

I have a HP 1315 all-in-one printer-scanner-copier.
Really good piece of equipment - works great.
The main control panel is "HP Director", which allows me to
scan
pictures and documents, make copies, edit graphics and
photographs,
etc.

A day or two ago, when I tried to load HP Director, the panel
did not
appear on the desktop. Pushing Ctrl-Alt-Delete showed that
the
program had in fact loaded, but there was no way I could get
the
desktop panel to come up.
I un-installed and re-installed the program - twice. No joy.

Googling the situation, I was lead to believe that this might
be
caused by the upgrading of Internet Explorer to v. 7.
Basically, I don't use IE, but there seems to be no
reasonable method
of getting rid of it. But that's not the question here.
Also, since I do some (very little) web design, I use IE at
times just
to check my work.

OK - I reverted back to IE v. 6. My HP program once again
works like
a charm.

Question: What does one call programs that (partially)
disable other
legitimate programs? Malware? Something else? What would
cause IE v.
7 to fall in that category?

Thanks for any insights!

_________________________________
Old Enough
to know I don't know a thing ....

Like a number of products, the version of HP Director that came
with your all-in-one is not compatible with IE7. HP has
released a patch to fix this issue. You can download it here;

Critical update to resolve an issue with HP Director after
installing Internet Explorer 7
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/...en&cc=us&dlc=en&product=374568&os=228&lang=en

Note: There's a workaround if you don't want to install the
patch.

HP All-in-Ones, Printers, Scanners and Cameras - The HP
Director Software Does Not Display After Installing Internet
Explorer 7
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/genericDocument?lc=en&cc=us&docname=c00802504

Good luck

Nepatsfan

 

[Old Enough]

In

Like a number of products, the version of HP Director that came
with your all-in-one is not compatible with IE7. HP has
released a patch to fix this issue. You can download it here;

Critical update to resolve an issue with HP Director after
installing Internet Explorer 7
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/...en&cc=us&dlc=en&product=374568&os=228&lang=en

Note: There's a workaround if you don't want to install the
patch.

HP All-in-Ones, Printers, Scanners and Cameras - The HP
Director Software Does Not Display After Installing Internet
Explorer 7
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/genericDocument?lc=en&cc=us&docname=c00802504

Good luck

Nepatsfan

Thanks, Nepatsfan!

I still have a nagging question, though.
Why should updates to Internet Explorer (partially) disable or
interfere with other existing programs, and why should it be up to
owners of such other programs to write patches or otherwise adapt
themselves to a newer Microsoft program?

I guess itgoes to show that when you're big and powerful you don't
have to consider anyone else, and you can do what you want - the heck
with anyone else.

BTW, Nepatsfan, you seem like a knowledgeable and helpful person.
Do you know if there's a way to totally remove Internet Explorer from
a computer without screwing up any part of the Windows XP OS?

Thanks!
_________________________________
Old Enough
to know I don't know a thing ....

 

[Gordon]

I still have a nagging question, though.
Why should updates to Internet Explorer (partially) disable or
interfere with other existing programs, and why should it be up to
owners of such other programs to write patches or otherwise adapt
themselves to a newer Microsoft program?

The problem is, there are literally MILLIONS of applications out there,
so it's really impossible for any software developer to make sure that a
new release works with all existing applications. Having said that, (and
I'm in no way defending MS on this), that is what beta releases are for,
so that third-party developers can test and amend their applications,
and in this case, the betas were out in sufficient time that HP could
have done something - they didn't until after the event....which as HP
is an OEM vendor of Windows rather says more about HP than it does about
Microsoft....

 

[Peter Foldes]

BTW, Nepatsfan, you seem like a knowledgeable and helpful person.
Do you know if there's a way to totally remove Internet Explorer from
a computer without screwing up any part of the Windows XP OS?

There is no way to completely remove it without affecting the working OS. What you can do is to remove the reference to it on the Desktop

 

[Guest]

Thanks, Nepatsfan!

I still have a nagging question, though.
Why should updates to Internet Explorer (partially) disable or
interfere with other existing programs, and why should it be up to
owners of such other programs to write patches or otherwise adapt
themselves to a newer Microsoft program?

I guess itgoes to show that when you're big and powerful you don't
have to consider anyone else, and you can do what you want - the heck
with anyone else.

BTW, Nepatsfan, you seem like a knowledgeable and helpful person.
Do you know if there's a way to totally remove Internet Explorer from
a computer without screwing up any part of the Windows XP OS?

Thanks!
_________________________________
Old Enough
to know I don't know a thing ....

Well Old, this issue is very deep and complicated to discuss here. Before
telling you on how to remove it bear in Mind you will need it for updates for
your Operating system, also some websites/application will only use IE?.
How to remove it, but not completely here is goes:
Click Start >> Control panel >> Add/Remove windows programs then click on
Add & Remove components to open its window.
On the Add/remove windows Components Uncheck the Check Box for Internet
explorer.
HTH.
nass

 

[Old Enough]

I have a HP 1315 all-in-one printer-scanner-copier.

etc. etc..

Thanks, folks, for your help, answers and explanations.
Y'all make sense!
_________________________________
Old Enough
to know I don't know a thing ....

 

[Gordon]

Well Old, this issue is very deep and complicated to discuss here. Before
telling you on how to remove it bear in Mind you will need it for updates
for
your Operating system, also some websites/application will only use IE?.
How to remove it, but not completely here is goes:
Click Start >> Control panel >> Add/Remove windows programs then click on
Add & Remove components to open its window.
On the Add/remove windows Components Uncheck the Check Box for Internet
explorer.
HTH.

Read the dialog box. That procedure does NOT remove IE in any shape or
form - all it does is to remove the MENU items relating to IE - it just
removes ACCESS to it.

 

[Gerry]

Old Enough

The customer has the choice not to buy new products. As someone else has
pointed out there are so many other programmes that can potentially
conflict with a new programme that it is impossible to avoid them. If
Microsoft tried to eliminate these conflicts in their entirety they
would never launch a new product. Users have to be realistic in their
expectations. Microsoft does beta test new programmes to enable others
to find solutions to conflicts.

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Hope this helps.

Gerry
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