ICS

[Stri]

I've no idea why there are multiple posts. I didn't make that happen
I'm using Google Groups....

I came to work today and asked my tutor (I'm studying to work for
Microsoft) and he said that this could not be achieved with a
crossover cable?

The network cards are LAN'd but it seems windows ICS doesn't like
crossover cable. Maybe there is a third part connection sharing
software.

Regards and thanks

Scottie

Hi Scottie,
Her are some steps to perform and hopefully you will get Internet Connection
sharing up and running:
How to set up a ICS:
Hardware:
- Tow Computers
- The Host have Two NICs
- Croos-Over cable (if you will not use a hub with 10base-T/100base-T,
cat5, patch cabel)
- Client have a NIC installed and all TCP/IP, DNS configured to get the
IP Auto.
- Enabling the ICS on both the Host and the Client

1 - How to set the Host:
You need to set the Host first as the Host will play the Distributor Role in
the ICS so you need to
set up correctly to allow ICS;

Click Start >> Control Panel >> Network and internet connections >> Network
Connections then Right click My network paces
and select Properties.
Here you should see or have two internet connection one for your Internet
connection and one for your local Area Network (LAN).
Right click Internet Connection and select properties.
On the Properties Window click on Advanced Tab and check these boxes:
Internet Connection Sharing:
[ ] Allow other network users to connect through this computer's Internet
Connection

[ ] Allow other Network users to control or Disable the hared Internet
Connection.
Click [OK] to Confirm your settings and close the Internet connection Window.

2 - Setting up the Client:

The same Go to the Control panel and Network Connections >> here at least
you should have one Internet connection Icon or Service
Installed, if not then your NIC or hardware not installed and you need to
install it configure it.
On the Local Area Network Right click and select properties.
Under general tab Highlight the Internet Protocol and click properties.

* Client for Microsoft Networks
* Internet Protocol (TCP/IP) 9If you don't have those then install
them)
Make sure the Machine getting an Automatic IP, DNS then click Advanced and
make sure also that there is not an old settings and all the DNS, WINs IP
filtering are all empty and there are no entries.
Troubleshooting Internet Connection Sharing in Windows XPhttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/308006
HTH.
Let us know without Multi-post <g>
Regards,
nass
--------www.nasstec.co.uk

Thanks Nass,

You're a star. I'll try that tonight if I can kick my flat mate of the
host PC.
*grumble* World Of Warcraft players *grumble*

I'll let you know.

 

[Guest]

I've no idea why there are multiple posts. I didn't make that happen
I'm using Google Groups....

I came to work today and asked my tutor (I'm studying to work for
Microsoft) and he said that this could not be achieved with a
crossover cable?

The network cards are LAN'd but it seems windows ICS doesn't like
crossover cable. Maybe there is a third part connection sharing
software.

Regards and thanks

Scottie

Hi Scottie,
Her are some steps to perform and hopefully you will get Internet Connection
sharing up and running:
How to set up a ICS:
Hardware:
- Tow Computers
- The Host have Two NICs
- Croos-Over cable (if you will not use a hub with 10base-T/100base-T,
cat5, patch cabel)
- Client have a NIC installed and all TCP/IP, DNS configured to get the
IP Auto.
- Enabling the ICS on both the Host and the Client

1 - How to set the Host:
You need to set the Host first as the Host will play the Distributor Role in
the ICS so you need to
set up correctly to allow ICS;

Click Start >> Control Panel >> Network and internet connections >> Network
Connections then Right click My network paces
and select Properties.
Here you should see or have two internet connection one for your Internet
connection and one for your local Area Network (LAN).
Right click Internet Connection and select properties.
On the Properties Window click on Advanced Tab and check these boxes:
Internet Connection Sharing:
[ ] Allow other network users to connect through this computer's Internet
Connection

[ ] Allow other Network users to control or Disable the hared Internet
Connection.
Click [OK] to Confirm your settings and close the Internet connection Window.

2 - Setting up the Client:

The same Go to the Control panel and Network Connections >> here at least
you should have one Internet connection Icon or Service
Installed, if not then your NIC or hardware not installed and you need to
install it configure it.
On the Local Area Network Right click and select properties.
Under general tab Highlight the Internet Protocol and click properties.

* Client for Microsoft Networks
* Internet Protocol (TCP/IP) 9If you don't have those then install
them)
Make sure the Machine getting an Automatic IP, DNS then click Advanced and
make sure also that there is not an old settings and all the DNS, WINs IP
filtering are all empty and there are no entries.
Troubleshooting Internet Connection Sharing in Windows XPhttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/308006
HTH.
Let us know without Multi-post <g>
Regards,
nass
--------www.nasstec.co.uk

Thanks Nass,

You're a star. I'll try that tonight if I can kick my flat mate of the
host PC.
*grumble* World Of Warcraft players *grumble*

I'll let you know.

Good luck and don't forget press the button once and wait for it 10 minutes
and see if you could spot your Post (click Refresh), if not then try again
after 30 Minutes.
Regards,
nass

 

[Stri]

:
I've no idea why there are multiple posts. I didn't make that happen
I'm using Google Groups....
I came to work today and asked my tutor (I'm studying to work for
Microsoft) and he said that this could not be achieved with a
crossover cable?
The network cards are LAN'd but it seems windows ICS doesn't like
crossover cable. Maybe there is a third part connection sharing
software.
Regards and thanks
Scottie
Hi Scottie,
Her are some steps to perform and hopefully you will get Internet Connection
sharing up and running:
How to set up a ICS:
Hardware:
- Tow Computers
- The Host have Two NICs
- Croos-Over cable (if you will not use a hub with 10base-T/100base-T,
cat5, patch cabel)
- Client have a NIC installed and all TCP/IP, DNS configured to get the
IP Auto.
- Enabling the ICS on both the Host and the Client
1 - How to set the Host:
You need to set the Host first as the Host will play the Distributor Role in
the ICS so you need to
set up correctly to allow ICS;
Click Start >> Control Panel >> Network and internet connections >> Network
Connections then Right click My network paces
and select Properties.
Here you should see or have two internet connection one for your Internet
connection and one for your local Area Network (LAN).
Right click Internet Connection and select properties.
On the Properties Window click on Advanced Tab and check these boxes:
Internet Connection Sharing:
[ ] Allow other network users to connect through this computer's Internet
Connection
[ ] Allow other Network users to control or Disable the hared Internet
Connection.
Click [OK] to Confirm your settings and close the Internet connection Window.
2 - Setting up the Client:
The same Go to the Control panel and Network Connections >> here at least
you should have one Internet connection Icon or Service
Installed, if not then your NIC or hardware not installed and you need to
install it configure it.
On the Local Area Network Right click and select properties.
Under general tab Highlight the Internet Protocol and click properties.
* Client for Microsoft Networks
* Internet Protocol (TCP/IP) 9If you don't have those then install
them)
Make sure the Machine getting an Automatic IP, DNS then click Advanced and
make sure also that there is not an old settings and all the DNS, WINs IP
filtering are all empty and there are no entries.
Troubleshooting Internet Connection Sharing in Windows XPhttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/308006
HTH.
Let us know without Multi-post <g>
Regards,
nass
--------www.nasstec.co.uk

Thanks Nass,

You're a star. I'll try that tonight if I can kick my flat mate of the
host PC.
*grumble* World Of Warcraft players *grumble*

I'll let you know.

Good luck and don't forget press the button once and wait for it 10 minutes
and see if you could spot your Post (click Refresh), if not then try again
after 30 Minutes.
Regards,
nass

It wasnt me mate. It was google groups. I only clicked the once

 

[Stri]

It wasnt me mate. It was google groups. I only clicked the once

Progress!

I did as you suggested. I followed the steps you listed above and
after setting up the NSW it ran fine...
For about 30 seconds. It was connected then it timed out?!?!

I rebooted the client PC and when it returned to the desktop the ICS
icon on the client was gone?
I ran both the NSW's again and the ICS returned but I couldnt view web
pages.

I went into the individual firewall execptions for all 3 NIC's and
made sure they were all ticked but that didn't make any difference.

The other thing I tried was to go to windows setup in add/remove progs
and add "peer to peer" in networking and "world wide web service" on
the client PC. Im not sure what significance that would be.

But why would the ICS work but then time out, that doesn't make sense
to me.

Cheers

 

[Guest]

Progress!

I did as you suggested. I followed the steps you listed above and
after setting up the NSW it ran fine...
For about 30 seconds. It was connected then it timed out?!?!

I rebooted the client PC and when it returned to the desktop the ICS
icon on the client was gone?
I ran both the NSW's again and the ICS returned but I couldnt view web
pages.

I went into the individual firewall execptions for all 3 NIC's and
made sure they were all ticked but that didn't make any difference.

The other thing I tried was to go to windows setup in add/remove progs
and add "peer to peer" in networking and "world wide web service" on
the client PC. Im not sure what significance that would be.

But why would the ICS work but then time out, that doesn't make sense
to me.

Cheers

Note: when you attempt to use the Internet connection sharing (ICS) using a
Digital Subscriber Line (DSL)
connection it may not work correctly on both the Host or the Client computers.
As you described you will get the Time Out Error Message, because your NIC
not recognized when using the ICS.

The cause of this, if your ISP using a Point to Point Protocol over Ethernet
(PPPoE) this Virtual adapter not recognized by ICS.
To solve this issue try this:
Uncheck the Internet connection sharing (ICS) from the Host then do these
steps Host:
Click Start >> Control panel >> Network and Internet Connections>> Internet
Options.
On the IE Properties click on the Connections Tab and select your Default
Coonection then check this radio Button:
( ) Never Dail up a connection
( ) Dial whenever a connection is available
(*) Always dail my default connection <- Check this radio button

While your DSL is selected be sure it is set as the Default for the setting
to take effect.

= Reinstall the Internet Connection sharing (ICS) as Described on the
Previous Post:
<Quote from previous msg>
1 - How to set the Host:
You need to set the Host first as the Host will play the Distributor Role in
the ICS so you need to
set up correctly to allow ICS;

Click Start >> Control Panel >> Network and internet connections >> Network
Connections then Right click My network paces
and select Properties.
Here you should see or have two internet connection one for your Internet
connection and one for your local Area Network (LAN).
Right click Internet Connection and select properties.
On the Properties Window click on Advanced Tab and check these boxes:
Internet Connection Sharing:
[ ] Allow other network users to connect through this computer's Internet
Connection

[ ] Allow other Network users to control or Disable the hared Internet
Connection.
Click [OK] to Confirm your settings and close the Internet connection Window.

2 - Setting up the Client:

The same Go to the Control panel and Network Connections >> here at least
you should have one Internet connection Icon or Service
Installed, if not then your NIC or hardware not installed and you need to
install it configure it.
On the Local Area Network Right click and select properties.
Under general tab Highlight the Internet Protocol and click properties.

* Client for Microsoft Networks
* Internet Protocol (TCP/IP) 9If you don't have those then install
them)
Make sure the Machine getting an Automatic IP, DNS then click Advanced and
make sure also that there is not an old settings and all the DNS, WINs IP
filtering are all empty and there are no entries.
</Quote from previous Msg>
Restart the Host Computer.
Be sure you didn't create a username or password on the client computer for
the ICS connection leave a blank.

Troubleshooting ICS connection:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/expert/crawford_02july01.mspx

Also be sure that the Host not assigned the same IP as the Client, to do
that by running the Run command and type in:
CMD.exe click [OK] and on the new prompt command line type in:
ipconfig /all Hit Enter

Perform this on Both (Host & Client and compare the IP address.
HTH.
Regards,
nass

 

[Stri]

Perform this on Both (Host & Client and compare the IP address.

HTH.
Regards,
nass

Hi Nass,

My mate was around last night and he knows a little more than me even
though I know a little bit.
He sat and spent hours trying last night and he concludes that the O/S
is the problem. I agree with him seeing as we've tried everything
else.

At the moment we're looking at the following options. In order of
preference.

1. 3rd party ICS software
2. Router
3. Something else I've forgotten

Thanks for your help Nass. I'd like you to know I appreciate it.
In addition if you know of any good 3rd party ICS software that would
be great

 

[Guest]

Hi Nass,

My mate was around last night and he knows a little more than me even
though I know a little bit.
He sat and spent hours trying last night and he concludes that the O/S
is the problem. I agree with him seeing as we've tried everything
else.

At the moment we're looking at the following options. In order of
preference.

1. 3rd party ICS software
2. Router
3. Something else I've forgotten

Thanks for your help Nass. I'd like you to know I appreciate it.
In addition if you know of any good 3rd party ICS software that would
be great

Hi,
Well in My opinion a Router will be better and more better if it is wireless
Router, you can have your machine in your own Bedroom or where ever you want
it to be and you don't need the other machine ON at all to get Internet
Access as the case in Internet Connection Sharing (ICS).
You can Make a LAN Connection and Share Games ON it and Play Games OnLine
Live or compete with each other Live on the Network, share music, movies and
so on..
Or you can make it simple with a Hub/Switch and share the Internet
Connection and you still be able to access the Internet even if your mate IN
or Out (His machine ON/OFF).

If you still would like to Share the Internet through his machine then
download this freeware software from here:
AnalogX Proxy internet connection sharing
http://www.snapfiles.com/get/axproxy.html
HTH.
God luck and you are welcome.
Regards,
nass

 

[Stri]

I did as you suggested. I followed the steps you listed above and
after setting up the NSW it ran fine...
For about 30 seconds. It was connected then it timed out?!?!

I rebooted the client PC and when it returned to the desktop the ICS
icon on the client was gone?
I ran both the NSW's again and the ICS returned but I couldnt view web
pages.

I went into the individual firewall execptions for all 3 NIC's and
made sure they were all ticked but that didn't make any difference.

The other thing I tried was to go to windows setup in add/remove progs
and add "peer to peer" in networking and "world wide web service" on
the client PC. Im not sure what significance that would be.

But why would the ICS work but then time out, that doesn't make sense
to me.

Cheers

Note: when you attempt to use the Internet connection sharing (ICS) using a
Digital Subscriber Line (DSL)
connection it may not work correctly on both the Host or the Client computers.
As you described you will get the Time Out Error Message, because your NIC
not recognized when using the ICS.

The cause of this, if your ISP using a Point to Point Protocol over Ethernet
(PPPoE) this Virtual adapter not recognized by ICS.
To solve this issue try this:
Uncheck the Internet connection sharing (ICS) from the Host then do these
steps Host:
Click Start >> Control panel >> Network and Internet Connections>> Internet
Options.
On the IE Properties click on the Connections Tab and select your Default
Coonection then check this radio Button:
( ) Never Dail up a connection
( ) Dial whenever a connection is available
(*) Always dail my default connection <- Check this radio button

While your DSL is selected be sure it is set as the Default for the setting
to take effect.

= Reinstall the Internet Connection sharing (ICS) as Described on the
Previous Post:
<Quote from previous msg>
1 - How to set the Host:
You need to set the Host first as the Host will play the Distributor Role in
the ICS so you need to
set up correctly to allow ICS;

Click Start >> Control Panel >> Network and internet connections >> Network
Connections then Right click My network paces
and select Properties.
Here you should see or have two internet connection one for your Internet
connection and one for your local Area Network (LAN).
Right click Internet Connection and select properties.
On the Properties Window click on Advanced Tab and check these boxes:
Internet Connection Sharing:
[ ] Allow other network users to connect through this computer's Internet
Connection

[ ] Allow other Network users to control or Disable the hared Internet
Connection.
Click [OK] to Confirm your settings and close the Internet connection Window.

2 - Setting up the Client:

The same Go to the Control panel and Network Connections >> here at least
you should have one Internet connection Icon or Service
Installed, if not then your NIC or hardware not installed and you need to
install it configure it.
On the Local Area Network Right click and select properties.
Under general tab Highlight the Internet Protocol and click properties.

* Client for Microsoft Networks
* Internet Protocol (TCP/IP) 9If you don't have those then install
them)
Make sure the Machine getting an Automatic IP, DNS then click Advanced and
make sure also that there is not an old settings and all the DNS, WINs IP
filtering are all empty and there are no entries.
</Quote from previous Msg>
Restart the Host Computer.
Be sure you didn't create a username or password on the client computer for
the ICS connection leave a blank.

Troubleshooting ICS connection:http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/expert/crawford_0...

Also be sure that the Host not assigned the same IP as the Client, to do
that by running the Run command and type in:
CMD.exe click [OK] and on the new prompt command line type in:
ipconfig /all Hit Enter

Perform this on Both (Host & Client and compare the IP address.
HTH.
Regards,
nass

Hmm I've replied to this thread but they're not getting through. I
hope I've not been blocked

 

[Stri]

Hi Nass,

That's a great collection of links but I'm not sure where to turn.

The network cards can ping each other on the network. I'm not sure
what else to check. All the ICS settings seem fine.

It wouldnt work so I bought a router. Works great now.

Thanks Nass and everyone else. You've been great

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