I never noticed . . .

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Adam Albright

Yes, Prius owners love their car as much as Adam loves Vista!

"The car is very low to the ground and there is no pick up. I realize
that this is not a sports car but I would expect something slightly better.
The stock tires lose traction easily. Seats get uncomfortable after an hour."

"I wish the paint would be a little thicker. My kids seem to be able to scratch it easily."

"When traveling in high winds, it is like a job to keep it on the road."

"Cons: The exterior design"

"I do not like the smell of "new plastic" that is in the car. Doesn't smell like
new car, smells like a new toy!"

"If you're going up a hill and its snow or ice covered if it slips just a little it
stops and you have to get a run at it so the tires don't spin."

"Problems galore! They need to recall them again. Am I the only one who's car
cut down and refuse to start in the city? Embarrassing! I only had it for a week
when I realize gitters in the engine. I wish I bought a Versa or Fit. The dealer
gave me a gas slurping Camry to drive (still am) until my car is fixed."

Ref: http://autos.msn.com/research/userreviews/reviewlist.aspx?modelid=12772

Check out one of many Prius forums to get more objective opinions.
Most owners are almost obsessive, often naming their "baby" and
fawning after it like a pet. No me, but others, well what can I say.

FACTS:

The car is no lower to the ground than similar cars. In fact because
of the design you ride higher like in a SUV. One minor negative is you
don't see the front hood at all, so at first that takes a bit getting
used to if you could in your prior car. Also the front pillars are
wide, again taking a bit getting used to.

My Prius is the 11th car I purchased, all new. It has one of the best
paint jobs of any including cars I paid a lot more for.

Traveling about 300 miles up to Michigan with wind gusts to 50 MPG
driving on I94 last fall and a particular gusty day my Prius was just
as stable as larger cars I've driven like a Mercury Grand Marquis or
similar sized Buick.

The Prius comes with anti-slip standard. Duh! Driving it this last
winter's snow and ice it never "slipped" more than a second or two
with the system automatically kicked in to prevent full blown skids.
People simply don't know what they're talking about...or they don't
know how to drive. Probably both.

Starting problems? That's more bull. This is by far the easiest and
most quite, smoothest running car I ever owned in 40 plus years of
driving. It literally has a push button to start it, when running on
the "battery" it is whisper quite. It does take a bit getting used the
first couple weeks when you pause at a stop sign or traffic light and
one of the Prius's several computers switches to the battery making
you think the engine "died", the gas engine starts again automatically
if you have a lead foot when taking off from the traffic light.

It cycles between it's small 4 cyl gas engine and the powerpack
constantly depending on load without you being aware unless you're
looking at the powertrain monitor on the dash. It never failed to
start quickly even in this year's rougher than normal Chicago winter
with several days near or below zero. The powerpack isn't a toy, it
delivers 20,000 volts, and is accordingly marked high voltage under
the hood with it constantly recharging by the gas engine when in use.

Smell? Doesn't smell any different than any other new car. Geez Carey
I know you're just a twit but get real. I've had the car for 18 months
haven't had a single problem and everyone that drives it and most
people I know that see ask to try it, LOVE it. It's quite, VERY quite,
has plenty of pick up, surprisingly so, both the electric and gas
engine run together if you step on the gas hard, and it has more room
inside that many similar models. The only thing I agree with that a
bit negative is the standard seats are a little stiff and not as
comfortable as they could be on longer runs. Leather is a option.
 
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Adam Albright

I have only had one car that had over 100K miles on it. An Acura MDX.
Decided to sell it because I just wanted something new. Now I have an
Infiniti M35. Much nicer than that Prius. You say gas mileage? I only
drive 6 miles to work. I probably use less gas then you do. On the weekends
we use the wife's Hybrid, Lexus 400h.

By the way, the Infiniti is paid for (2006) and the Hybrid we pay about
$200/month.

So? I paid CASH for my home, so what. Oh, no mortgage, that's why.
That was over 22 years ago, over a quarter million. Don't even ask how
much it has appreciated, you'd be shocked.

Thanks again for giving me the opportunity to show you're just another
dope.

You said you're driving a Infinite M35 and use less gas then I do.
Really?

Well lets look:

http://www.fueleconomy.gov/FEG/noframes/23294.shtml

http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/noframes/22016.shtml

Oh and btw:

http://www.leftlanenews.com/next-prius-to-offer-113-mpg.html
 
A

Adam Albright

So you probably had to stretch out the payments so you could continue to
live in the double-wide?

Well I do live in a double-wide. Lot that is, I'm betting I paid way
more just for the land my house is sitting on then yours. LOL!

How many square foot is your house? 800?

ROTFLAMO!
 
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Adam Albright

My last new car was a Lexus LS.
I also purchased a new Ford Ranger XLT
and the wife drives a 2008 Saturn Vue XR.

XR = Xtreme RoadRage

Figures a dope would buy gas guzzlers. I also bet you have all the
lights on in your house when there is nobody in the room and run your
air conditioner with windows open.

Do you recycle?

Shame there isn't a market for hot air.
 
B

Bill Yanaire

Adam Albright said:
Well I do live in a double-wide. Lot that is, I'm betting I paid way
more just for the land my house is sitting on then yours. LOL!

How many square foot is your house? 800?

ROTFLAMO!

I live in a suburb of Los Angeles. I doubt that you paid more for your land
than I paid for my house.
 
C

Carey Frisch [MVP]

The V-8 Lexus averages 20 MPG.
The V-6 Ford Ranger averages 22 MPG.
The V-6 Saturn Vue averages 21 MPG.

All use Mobil 1 synthetic oil.

I wouldn't call them "gas guzzlers"

They serve their purpose for my driving needs.
The Lexus and Saturn Vue have heated leather seats
which are great for soothing backaches and
making wintertime driving more tolerable.

I recycle everything that's recyclable.
My house is very energy efficient
and I do not have high utility bills.
Compared to my neighbors, my
utility bill averages about $50
less per month.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience -
Windows System & Performance

---------------------------------------------------------------

:

My last new car was a Lexus LS.
I also purchased a new Ford Ranger XLT
and the wife drives a 2008 Saturn Vue XR.

XR = Xtreme RoadRage

Figures a dope would buy gas guzzlers. I also bet you have all the
lights on in your house when there is nobody in the room and run your
air conditioner with windows open.

Do you recycle?

Shame there isn't a market for hot air.
 
B

Bill Yanaire

Adam Albright said:
So? I paid CASH for my home, so what. Oh, no mortgage, that's why.
That was over 22 years ago, over a quarter million. Don't even ask how
much it has appreciated, you'd be shocked.

Thanks again for giving me the opportunity to show you're just another
dope.

You said you're driving a Infinite M35 and use less gas then I do.
Really?

Well lets look:

http://www.fueleconomy.gov/FEG/noframes/23294.shtml

http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/noframes/22016.shtml

Oh and btw:

http://www.leftlanenews.com/next-prius-to-offer-113-mpg.html

If you want to think I'm a dope go ahead and think that. I could care less.
I don't know how far you drive or your driving habits. I fill up every two
weeks. I said I probably use less gas than you. I don't know if you work
or are retired, in an institution or work release. I probably drive less
than 90% of the commuters in Los Angeles.
 
A

Adam Albright

If you want to think I'm a dope go ahead and think that. I could care less.
I don't know how far you drive or your driving habits. I fill up every two
weeks. I said I probably use less gas than you. I don't know if you work
or are retired, in an institution or work release. I probably drive less
than 90% of the commuters in Los Angeles.

The point that zooms over your head is you are paying roughly TWICE
what I do on a miles per gallon basis. It has nothing to do with how
far your drive, rather HOW MUCH is costs you for the miles you drive
regardless how many miles it happens to be.

Now before you resume your smug know everything posture, let me
explain why that's important.

For every pig headed driver that insists he has some God given right
to run around in a some gas guzzling fuel wasting rattle trap consider
the cost to the economy.

There is a finite supply of oil and a limited capacity to turn oil
into gasoline. In case you missed it oil futures spiked near $115 a
barrel the last couple of days. Sooner or later that gets reflected at
the pump as higher gas prices.

When people don't care how much gas they waste that means they are
using a disproportional share. The result is EVERYBODY pays more.
Again the FACT that jumps past you is when you fill-up every couple
weeks it may not seem like much, but if you were driving a car that
got decent mileage you'd fill up once a month based on what you said.
Multiply that by millions of other chowder heads that think the same
way and YOU and others like you are the reason gas prices are pushing
towards $4 a gallon as a national average.

It's called supply and demand. You're demanding you have some "right"
to waste gas. That shortsighted stupidity means I and everyone else is
paying more because the net effect is you are taking more than your
fair share. If everyone cut back on how much gas they used the price
at the pump would plummet.

I hope this wasn't too hard for you to grasp, but sadly it probably
was. So as usual the majority suffer because of the sins of some loud
minority that do whatever the hell they want and screw everyone else.
 
A

Adam Albright

The V-8 Lexus averages 20 MPG.
The V-6 Ford Ranger averages 22 MPG.
The V-6 Saturn Vue averages 21 MPG.

All use Mobil 1 synthetic oil.

I wouldn't call them "gas guzzlers"

All relative. When I got my 2006 Prius it had a EPA rating of 55-60
MPH. In real world I'm averaging 48 MPG for mostly running around
town.

In my book, anything under 30 MPH these days is a gas guzzler. I don't
expect everyone to want to run out and buy a Prius. However if nobody
cares the price of gas will keep rising and I do care about that
because even though I'm buying way less, I'm still paying at least a
dollar more a gallon than I shouldn't be do totally to chowder heading
thinking they have some right to drive a gas guzzler.

The bigger and more important implication is the overall economy. As a
country we either have to drive less (fat chance of that happening) or
watch as the price climbs to and then past $5 a gallon. I can afford
it, I'm sure you can. The point is many are getting to the point they
can't and that just don't impact one thing, the rapidly raising oil
prices impact just about everything from food costs, freight costs
that get passed on just about everything and so on.
 
C

Carey Frisch [MVP]

Wife would not settle for the 4-cylinder Saturn Vue.
She needs the power to move quickly on expressways
when merging with huge tractor trailer rigs barreling
by at 70 MPH. The decision to go with a thirsty V-6
was based solely on safety and letting a woman have
the final say with her wants and needs.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience -
Windows System & Performance

---------------------------------------------------------------

:

All relative. When I got my 2006 Prius it had a EPA rating of 55-60
MPH. In real world I'm averaging 48 MPG for mostly running around
town.

In my book, anything under 30 MPH these days is a gas guzzler. I don't
expect everyone to want to run out and buy a Prius. However if nobody
cares the price of gas will keep rising and I do care about that
because even though I'm buying way less, I'm still paying at least a
dollar more a gallon than I shouldn't be do totally to chowder heading
thinking they have some right to drive a gas guzzler.

The bigger and more important implication is the overall economy. As a
country we either have to drive less (fat chance of that happening) or
watch as the price climbs to and then past $5 a gallon. I can afford
it, I'm sure you can. The point is many are getting to the point they
can't and that just don't impact one thing, the rapidly raising oil
prices impact just about everything from food costs, freight costs
that get passed on just about everything and so on.
 
A

Adam Albright

Actually that is my neighbors house. In our neighborhood, that would sell
for $495,000!!!


That's why I mean... California property is WAY over priced!

ROTFLMAO!
 
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Adam Albright

Wife would not settle for the 4-cylinder Saturn Vue.
She needs the power to move quickly on expressways
when merging with huge tractor trailer rigs barreling
by at 70 MPH. The decision to go with a thirsty V-6
was based solely on safety and letting a woman have
the final say with her wants and needs.

Get her one of these. She can always go over anybody or anything in
her way and at the same time get plenty of fresh air.

http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/resources/2006/11/Tank Chair.jpg
 

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