I need a new computer - but Vista reminds me of ME

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I bought a deadend DELL abot three years ago that has no upgrade capability
for the processor except for a very tiny path.

I will be buying a box - and my present box supports Vista - I do not want
Vista on the new box. I have two TV cards on my system - with Vista
drivers available, but Vista OS would eat the extra oomph I need for the
system - so the new box would only help the OS - not my hardware.

Do folks know of a manufacturer that will sell a box without an OS?

thanks
 
I still don't understand how Vista reminds you of Windows ME?

Vista features vast improvements to the desktop including a graphically rich
interface called Windows AERO, Instant Search capabilities, enhanced
Security, Multimedia, 64-bit computing, improved deployment and tighter
integration with the Web through new features such as Sidebar Gadgets and
Really Simple Syndication (RSS). Included in Vista are new under the hood
features such as Windows Presentation and Communication Foundations and the
..NET Framework 3 for creating powerful, connected and more secure
applications.

I don't remember ME having any or supporting any of the above. But we're all
entitled to our own opinions. Also, Windows ME is based on the Win9x
codebase.
 
He isn't talking about the features between the two products. Windows ME
sucks, crashes, is very unstable, etc..... So is Vista.
 
barnesds said:
I bought a deadend DELL abot three years ago that has no upgrade capability
for the processor except for a very tiny path.

I will be buying a box - and my present box supports Vista - I do not want
Vista on the new box. I have two TV cards on my system - with Vista
drivers available, but Vista OS would eat the extra oomph I need for the
system - so the new box would only help the OS - not my hardware.

Do folks know of a manufacturer that will sell a box without an OS?

thanks

There are probably hundreds or maybe thousands of computer builders prepared
to supply a machine without an OS.

Google will pick them up as I have no idea in what part of the world you
are.
 
Bill said:
He isn't talking about the features between the two products. Windows ME
sucks, crashes, is very unstable, etc..... So is Vista.

Do you now use Vista? Do you or did you use ME?
Frank
 
I use Vista occasionally, but my main work is still with XP. I tried ME way
back and when I found out what a disaster it was, I distanced myself from
it.
 
I haven't had the suckage, crashes or unstable OS that they speak about.
I've been very lucky with all the systems I have running Vista. But, reading
these forums, I know others are having problems. Not to the extent of
Windows ME (which I owned for ~2 weeks, preinstalled on a laptop. Worked on
several PC's running ME.), but it is still an issue. HOWEVER, people don't
post when they aren't having problems.

I do recognize that there are issues with Vista, and they seem to be fairly
common, but not to the extent some are claiming. The comparison to Windows
ME isn't correct. It's more like XP pre-service packs.

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Dustin Harper
(e-mail address removed)
http://www.vistarip.com

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I bought a deadend DELL abot three years ago that has no upgrade capability
for the processor except for a very tiny path.

I will be buying a box - and my present box supports Vista - I do not want
Vista on the new box. I have two TV cards on my system - with Vista
drivers available, but Vista OS would eat the extra oomph I need for the
system - so the new box would only help the OS - not my hardware.

Do folks know of a manufacturer that will sell a box without an OS?

thanks

Best bet is probably to buy a "barebones" system from someone like
newegg.com. You simply add memory, hard drive, cd/dvd and install your own
OS. While you're at it, you might want to check a couple of the Linux Live
CDs - like knoppix or elive.
 
Dustin said:
I haven't had the suckage, crashes or unstable OS that they speak
about. I've been very lucky with all the systems I have running
Vista. But, reading these forums, I know others are having problems.
Not to the extent of Windows ME (which I owned for ~2 weeks,
preinstalled on a laptop. Worked on several PC's running ME.), but it
is still an issue. HOWEVER, people don't post when they aren't having
problems.


Your experience is much the same as mine. To elaborate on your last
sentence, whenever a new version of *anything* comes out, you always read
about people having so many problems. But realize two things:

1. If you're reading about problems *here*, this where people come with
their problems, not with their successes. You get a very distorted view of
what's going on in the real world here; as someone once said, "hang around a
transmission shop and you will think that all cars have transmission
problems."

2. Most problems, by far, that people report here have nothing to do with
defects in the software. They result from people's ignorance, from bad or
inadequate hardware, from old drivers, from viruses, from spyware, and so
on. And except for very rare situations, they always get a fix for their
problems, and in most cases, that fix is a very simple one to implement.
 
No problems here with Vista, running on 3 computers at home, my brother and
my sister-in-law are also running it without any issues. So its a bit
overwhelming reading about a lot of the issues in here. But like you say,
for a newly released product especially for a major release like Vista,
somethings gotta give especially with the infinite PC configurations out
there.

As for ME, I ran it for nine months until I caught a virus and had to
reinstall Windows, never so any major differences between it and 98, so I
just reinstalled 98 SE. Win2k had a similar driver issue when it came out in
Feb. 2000, but eventually got smooth over time, I have confidence the odds
are just the same for Vista.
 
I have had a few problems, but they are mostly lack of knowledge on how to
set the software up. Whenever I get a new computer it takes sometime to get
it running the like the old computer. Usually that will not happen in all
cases, there different and new features. You learn to adapt.

Once it is setup, you get used to working with it, any quirks and setup
problem are forgotten.

Steve


Andre Da Costa said:
No problems here with Vista, running on 3 computers at home, my brother
and my sister-in-law are also running it without any issues. So its a bit
overwhelming reading about a lot of the issues in here. But like you say,
for a newly released product especially for a major release like Vista,
somethings gotta give especially with the infinite PC configurations out
there.

As for ME, I ran it for nine months until I caught a virus and had to
reinstall Windows, never so any major differences between it and 98, so I
just reinstalled 98 SE. Win2k had a similar driver issue when it came out
in Feb. 2000, but eventually got smooth over time, I have confidence the
odds are just the same for Vista.
 
HOWEVER, people don't post when they aren't having
problems.

That's is what I was trying to say: if they are not having any issues, they
don't come to the forums to post their success.

And yes, most of the posts I've seen are for fixes for third party software
or an easy fix.

--
Dustin Harper
(e-mail address removed)
http://www.vistarip.com

--
 
Dustin Harper wrote:

That's is what I was trying to say: if they are not having any
issues, they don't come to the forums to post their success.


Yes, I understood that. I wasn't disagreeing at all, just elaborating on
your message.
 
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