I have to Reboot to change WIFI sources

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casey.o

I finally got my laptop reinstalled and tweaked the way I like it.
Everything works fine, except for the WIFI. I can connect and get a
good solid connection. However, if I change location, I can not
connect. In other words, (Example) If I connect at McDonalds in town,
use their service for awhile, then drive to the other side of town and
try to connect at a bar which has WIFI service, it will not connect. It
keeps trying, but nothing happens, and it eventually times out. Even if
I return to McDonalds, it will not connect a second time. But, if I
reboot, it connects immediately (at both the bar and McDonalds).

This is a Lenovo (IBM) T43 Thinkpad. XP-Pro SP3 (just installed).
The WIFI adaptor is built in to the computer. The driver software is
the same I have used in the past, and I never had this problem before.

What could cause this?
 
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Paul in Houston TX

I finally got my laptop reinstalled and tweaked the way I like it.
Everything works fine, except for the WIFI. I can connect and get a
good solid connection. However, if I change location, I can not
connect. In other words, (Example) If I connect at McDonalds in town,
use their service for awhile, then drive to the other side of town and
try to connect at a bar which has WIFI service, it will not connect. It
keeps trying, but nothing happens, and it eventually times out. Even if
I return to McDonalds, it will not connect a second time. But, if I
reboot, it connects immediately (at both the bar and McDonalds).

This is a Lenovo (IBM) T43 Thinkpad. XP-Pro SP3 (just installed).
The WIFI adaptor is built in to the computer. The driver software is
the same I have used in the past, and I never had this problem before.

What could cause this?

What happens when you:
ipconfig /renew
ipconfig /flushdns
 
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BillW50

In (e-mail address removed) typed:
I finally got my laptop reinstalled and tweaked the way I like it.
Everything works fine, except for the WIFI. I can connect and get a
good solid connection. However, if I change location, I can not
connect. In other words, (Example) If I connect at McDonalds in town,
use their service for awhile, then drive to the other side of town
and try to connect at a bar which has WIFI service, it will not
connect. It keeps trying, but nothing happens, and it eventually
times out. Even if I return to McDonalds, it will not connect a
second time. But, if I reboot, it connects immediately (at both the
bar and McDonalds).

This is a Lenovo (IBM) T43 Thinkpad. XP-Pro SP3 (just installed).
The WIFI adaptor is built in to the computer. The driver software is
the same I have used in the past, and I never had this problem before.

What could cause this?

Yeah that is why I usually don't put SP3 on a XP system. It doesn't use
one of those Qualcomm Atheros WiFi, does it? I don't think they ever fix
any bugs in their drivers. Hard to tell if their hardware is any good or
not, since their drivers are usually so bad. They also have no end user
support either.

Turning the WiFi off and then back on again sometimes clears it up.
There is usually a hotkey combo to toggle the WiFi or sometimes a small
switch somewhere. If that doesn't work, try enabling and disabling it
through the Device Manager.

Windows XP SP3 Survey Results
http://techtalk.pcpitstop.com/2008/06/08/windows-xp-sp3-survey-results/

Sad isn't it? SP3 came out after the Vista fiasco.
 
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BillW50

In Nil typed:
Typical of you to use a 7 year old story to try to justify your
bizarre practices. Can't you find anything relevant?

I have installed SP3 on scores of PCs and have never had a problem.

Every single one I installed with SP3 Outlook Express 6 won't compact
the folders.dbx anymore. And don't bother checking yours, as yours is
broken too. Bruce Hagen of OE newsgroup (I think it was Bruce anyway)
said Microsoft has no plans of even fixing this bug. I personally think
they have no interest in fixing any bugs introduced with SP3. Microsoft
just wishes that XP just went away. Who knows what time bombs they may
lay in SP3 and later updates to make that happen?
 
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Bob F

BillW50 said:
In Nil typed:

Every single one I installed with SP3 Outlook Express 6 won't compact
the folders.dbx anymore. And don't bother checking yours, as yours is
broken too. Bruce Hagen of OE newsgroup (I think it was Bruce anyway)
said Microsoft has no plans of even fixing this bug. I personally
think they have no interest in fixing any bugs introduced with SP3.
Microsoft just wishes that XP just went away. Who knows what time
bombs they may lay in SP3 and later updates to make that happen?

LOL!

XP3 has been working fine for me 24/7 for years. If it doesn't compact
folders.dbx, so what? There are other programs you can use for email/usenet if
that bothers you.
 
B

BillW50

Bob F explained :
LOL!

XP3 has been working fine for me 24/7 for years. If it doesn't compact
folders.dbx, so what?

And XP SP2 has been working fine for me 24/7 for years, so what? One of
my machines does have XP SP3 on it and I am not impressed. Not one
single new feature. Useless, don't waste my time!
There are other programs you can use for email/usenet
if that bothers you.

Oh you mean ones like: Forté Agent, Windows Live Mail, 40tude Dialog,
MesNews, OE Classic, Mozilla Thunderbird, etc? Yeah what a bunch of
useless software. These all remind of programmers in training. As they
all lack important features. I don't think I have seen a decent program
in the last 10 years. Older programs are so much better than the crap
they put out today.
 
B

BillW50

J. P. Gilliver (John) formulated on Saturday :
Bob F explained : []
XP3 has been working fine for me 24/7 for years. If it doesn't compact
folders.dbx, so what?

And XP SP2 has been working fine for me 24/7 for years, so what? One of my
machines does have XP SP3 on it and I am not impressed. Not one single new
feature. Useless, don't waste my time!

Not one single new feature _that YOU use_. (It also contained bugfixes.)

Yes, but if I need a bugfix, I install it individually. Like KB909095
for example. I don't need to fix things like not displaying Chinese
characters correctly under IE. Heck I can't even read Chinese anyway,
so what good would it do me anyway? Plus SP3 also adds new bugs, so
what good is that? Microsoft has no plans for SP4 to fix those.

And how do you know SP3 and later doesn't contain secret backdoors that
Microsoft, Google, Facebook, NSA, etc could use? And what about a time
bomb that will make your XP unusable after a so and so date? They are
already trying to get XP users to upgrade to a newer version of Windows
by claiming XP is so unsecure. And that doesn't seem to scare enough of
us to help Microsoft sell more OS. So Microsoft might be able to make
updated XP less usable somehow in the future. They could do the same
for SP2 machines too, but SP3 machines would be a bigger target. There
just aren't enough XP SP2 users to worry about.

And speaking about bugs, ever looked for a XP bug list? I have and they
don't exist. I did find one comment that claims whoever creates one,
Microsoft shuts them down. I don't know how true that is, but it does
makes sense that none exists. I don't know what Microsoft could do
about such a list posted in newsgroups? Although they could put a
Microsoft office on the moon if they wanted to, so maybe they can.
But nobody is forcing you to use SP3 - if you're happy with SP2, stick with
it! SP3 has been fine for me since I moved to XP; since I don't use OE, I'm
not bothered about some obscure bug relating to it. But I'm certainly not
saying _you_ should move to SP3: sounds as if it'd give you no advantage
(assuming you don't use any of the other things that were fixed) and one
disadvantage.

But I do have one machine with SP3. And I am not impressed! An extra
1GB of new code for what? Just like that DOTNET junk. 500MB+ worth of
libraries just to run a few 10MB applications? Nonsense, they can keep
their DOTNET. This one has no DOTNET stuff at all. Some other of my XP
machines was not so lucky. As some branded OEM XP SP2 installs puts
DOTNET on automatically. Plus Windows 7 and 8 (all versions) does too.
I use the ancient Turnpike (-:.

Wow! I haven't used Turnpike in years. ;-)
They all lack what _you_ consider important features, or - more likely -
implement those functions in a way you're not used to. Conversely, they may
add _new_ features - which, since you've never had them, you don't miss.

Yes, but I use others all of the time to keep up with them all. Same
with office suites. And spending all of that time with them, I still
like OE6 and MS Office 2000 better than anything else. I am using
MesNews right now (I like to switch applications a lot). I never did
ever figure out how to toggle threaded view off. Threaded view is nice
from time to time, but I don't always like it.
I would certainly agree with that in some respects - code size for one.

I run some of the newer stuff from time to time, but I like the older
stuff much better. If I was just a kid, I would probably like the newer
stuff more.
 
J

J. P. Gilliver (John)

[QUOTE="BillW50 said:
Bob F explained : []
XP3 has been working fine for me 24/7 for years. If it doesn't
compact folders.dbx, so what?

And XP SP2 has been working fine for me 24/7 for years, so what? One
of my machines does have XP SP3 on it and I am not impressed. Not
one single new feature. Useless, don't waste my time!

Not one single new feature _that YOU use_. (It also contained bugfixes.)

Yes, but if I need a bugfix, I install it individually. Like KB909095[/QUOTE]

That assumes you know you need it. You say you haven't found a list of
bugs, so you can't know them all ... (yes, obviously the opposite
probably also applies, whatever that is.)
for example. I don't need to fix things like not displaying Chinese
characters correctly under IE. Heck I can't even read Chinese anyway,
so what good would it do me anyway? Plus SP3 also adds new bugs, so
what good is that? Microsoft has no plans for SP4 to fix those.

And how do you know SP3 and later doesn't contain secret backdoors that
Microsoft, Google, Facebook, NSA, etc could use? And what about a time
bomb that will make your XP unusable after a so and so date? They are
already trying to get XP users to upgrade to a newer version of Windows
by claiming XP is so unsecure. And that doesn't seem to scare enough of
us to help Microsoft sell more OS. So Microsoft might be able to make
updated XP less usable somehow in the future. They could do the same
for SP2 machines too, but SP3 machines would be a bigger target. There
just aren't enough XP SP2 users to worry about.

All true, though I would be mildly surprised if any such nasties were
only in SP3. It's academic for me, anyway: this machine came with SP3.
And speaking about bugs, ever looked for a XP bug list? I have and they
don't exist. I did find one comment that claims whoever creates one,
Microsoft shuts them down. I don't know how true that is, but it does
makes sense that none exists. I don't know what Microsoft could do

Does also sound a little paranoid, in its non-disprovability.
about such a list posted in newsgroups? Although they could put a
Microsoft office on the moon if they wanted to, so maybe they can.
Hmm.
[]
But I do have one machine with SP3. And I am not impressed! An extra
1GB of new code for what? Just like that DOTNET junk. 500MB+ worth of
libraries just to run a few 10MB applications? Nonsense, they can keep

which would be a lot more than 10MB if the libraries weren't there. (Not
that, in many cases, third-party app.s don't exist that are just as
small and _don't_ need .net.)
their DOTNET. This one has no DOTNET stuff at all. Some other of my XP
machines was not so lucky. As some branded OEM XP SP2 installs puts
DOTNET on automatically. Plus Windows 7 and 8 (all versions) does too.


Wow! I haven't used Turnpike in years. ;-)

Wow, I haven't met anyone outside the Turnpike newsgroup that has even
heard of it! (Development finally stopped in about 2007.)
Yes, but I use others all of the time to keep up with them all. Same
with office suites. And spending all of that time with them, I still
like OE6 and MS Office 2000 better than anything else. I am using

Turnpike and Office 2003 (2000 might have done me but I don't think I
ever had it - I think I only have 2003 because my employer and Microsoft
had a free-for-employees offer; without that I might have still been on
'95-issue-97).
MesNews right now (I like to switch applications a lot). I never did
ever figure out how to toggle threaded view off. Threaded view is nice
from time to time, but I don't always like it.

I hardly ever use the other view in Turnpike.
I run some of the newer stuff from time to time, but I like the older
stuff much better. If I was just a kid, I would probably like the newer
stuff more.
Maybe. I guess I tend to run a generation or two behind.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists to
adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable
man. -George Bernard Shaw, writer, Nobel laureate (1856-1950)
 

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