How to dual boot Ubuntu 7.04 with Windows Vista already installed

[Guest]

How to dual boot Ubuntu 7.04 with Windows Vista already installed? I don't
want to remove vista on this machine but i want to dual boot. Can i do it
without reinstalling Windows Vista and creating a partitions or without
buying any software that can create a partition.

 

[James Moffitt]

My experience is that most versions of Windows does not like to share the
MBR with any other OS. You can try using Partition Magic to create a new
partition with some of the free space and install Linux to that partition.
Other than that I dont think it will be possible. Ok , that is my two
cents, good luck to you.

 

[ray]

How to dual boot Ubuntu 7.04 with Windows Vista already installed? I don't
want to remove vista on this machine but i want to dual boot. Can i do it
without reinstalling Windows Vista and creating a partitions or without
buying any software that can create a partition.

Yes. Boot the ubunutu CD and start the install. You will be presented with
a tool to resize and repartition. (You should defrag MS first, though.)
Proceed with the install and Ubuntu will set up the dual boot
automagically.

 

[ray]

My experience is that most versions of Windows does not like to share the
MBR with any other OS. You can try using Partition Magic to create a new
partition with some of the free space and install Linux to that partition.
Other than that I dont think it will be possible. Ok , that is my two
cents, good luck to you.

My experience has been that you boot the Linux install disk and proceed
with the onscreen instructions. I did that not too long ago on a new
computer from WM I was setting up for my wife. It came with xp. Ubuntu
repartitioned and set up the dual boot automagically.

 

[Leythos]

How to dual boot Ubuntu 7.04 with Windows Vista already installed? I
don't want to remove vista on this machine but i want to dual boot. Can
i do it without reinstalling Windows Vista and creating a partitions or
without buying any software that can create a partition.

Purchase a spare drive, remove the Vista one, install the new one,
install Linux - swap drives when you want to run the other OS.

--
Leythos
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[Chris Barnes]

How to dual boot Ubuntu 7.04 with Windows Vista already installed? I don't
want to remove vista on this machine but i want to dual boot. Can i do it
without reinstalling Windows Vista and creating a partitions or without
buying any software that can create a partition.

Install VMWare, then run Ubuntu in a VM.

Note: this has the advantage that if you need to move your Ubuntu
install to a different machine, you simply install VMWare on that other
machine, and move the vmware image to that other machine. Reboot and
walla - the linux system is just like you left it.


PS: I run VMWare on ALL of my servers - and all of the mission critical
services are run on virtual machines. This means if we have a critical
hardware failure, our time to being back up is very, very small.

 

[Doris Day - MFB]

How to dual boot Ubuntu 7.04 with Windows Vista already installed? I don't
want to remove vista on this machine but i want to dual boot. Can i do it
without reinstalling Windows Vista and creating a partitions or without
buying any software that can create a partition.

Yep, no problem. Just bootup your Ubuntu LiveCD and when you get to the
desktop, click on the Install icon. Away it goes. It'll resize your Fista
partition, leaving room to automatically install Ubuntu. It'll install GRUB
which will then let you select which operating system you wish to boot. I
use the term "operating system" rather loosely in this regards. Windoze is
hardly an operating system of any merit.

Love and Kisses,
Doris

 

[Doris Day - MFB]

Install VMWare, then run Ubuntu in a VM.

Note: this has the advantage that if you need to move your Ubuntu
install to a different machine, you simply install VMWare on that other
machine, and move the vmware image to that other machine. Reboot and
walla - the linux system is just like you left it.


PS: I run VMWare on ALL of my servers - and all of the mission critical
services are run on virtual machines. This means if we have a critical
hardware failure, our time to being back up is very, very small.

Actually, I'd do the the reverse. XP runs faster in a vm on a Linux host
than it does on real metal. Why? Because Linux is just so much more
capable.

Love and Kisses,
Doris

 

[Doris Day - MFB]

My experience is that most versions of Windows does not like to share the
MBR with any other OS. You can try using Partition Magic to create a new
partition with some of the free space and install Linux to that partition.
Other than that I dont think it will be possible. Ok , that is my two
cents, good luck to you.

So much from the 2 cents from the peanut gallery. Don't use Partition Magic!
Let Ubuntu handle the install/repartitioning.

Love and Kisses,
Doris

 

[Chris Barnes]

Actually, I'd do the the reverse. XP runs faster in a vm on a Linux host
than it does on real metal. Why? Because Linux is just so much more
capable.

It all depends on which is your "main" OS. That's the one that should
be running native.

kisses back to you,

 

[Frank]

Doris Day - MFB wrote:

Why? Because Linux is just so much more

capable.

Love and Kisses,
Doris

Statements like that really expose your ignorance and show what a fool
your are.
And you do it all the time.
(snort)
Frank

 

[Frank Bright]

I'm late coming in here, but Ah-hum,...I've done this, so I know it can
work.
I did it last night actually. I already had Vista running on my gateway
laptop and wanted to
set up a dual boot with Ubuntu.

(Note to Vista forum: Pardon these references to Ubuntu, but this process is
also very informative on using newer Vista capabilities in setting up
partitions)

Ironies of ironies: A nice fellow on the Ubuntu forum strictly warned me NOT
to let Ubuntu do the partitioning, but to let Vista do it. So do it ahead of
time. And it worked for me. Here's how...

In Vista, Right-Click on My Computer, choose 'Manage'. Click 'Disk
Management'. There you can set up partitions, delete them, extend or shrink
volumes of existing ones (NTFSs only).
You'll need at least 3 partitions, one for Vista, one as a Swap, and one for
Ubuntu. But there's no need to format the Ubuntu partition
nor the swap partition, since you can easily manage the Ubuntu Install to do
that. And anyways, you're going to want to let the Ubuntu Install format its
partition as an 'Ext3' format.

- Your Ubuntu partition needs to be only 1.5 to 2 GB in size to work
- The Swap partitions needs (if memory serves, pun intended) only 256 MB of
space.
Set up your mounts as follows during the install: Your Root upon which
Ubuntu is installed gets a '/' mount - swap I think gets a "/swap" mount
and Vista gets "/windows"

After the setup, upon restarting, Vista will automatically bring up a boot
menu, giving you a choice of which OS to boot up with.
Good Luck, Frank

 

[Frank Bright]

GT, I've actually done it, in the order you're proposing.
But it is too referential to Ubuntu for this forum. Email me at Brightbelt
(at) Comcast (dot) net and I can give you
VERY detailed instructions that will make it easier for you.

Btw, a Linuxarion strictly warned me...do NOT let the Ubuntu Install do the
partitioning. Do it with Vista instead.

Thanks, Frank

 

[Frank Bright]

My apologies -- I posted the longer explanation by mistake. I thought it got
deleted.
I'm trying to deflect the Ubuntu talk away from the forum and yet still
offer help to GT if he or she still wants it.

Thanks, Frank

 

[sharpz]

as a sidenote, do not do this with edgy, only feisty. the ntfs-resize tool
on edgy seems to break your vista partition during resize, they released an
updated version which comes with feisty

 

[Doris Day - MFB]

I'm late coming in here, but Ah-hum,...I've done this, so I know it can
work.
I did it last night actually. I already had Vista running on my gateway
laptop and wanted to
set up a dual boot with Ubuntu.

(Note to Vista forum: Pardon these references to Ubuntu, but this process
is also very informative on using newer Vista capabilities in setting up
partitions)

Ironies of ironies: A nice fellow on the Ubuntu forum strictly warned me
NOT to let Ubuntu do the partitioning, but to let Vista do it. So do it
ahead of time. And it worked for me. Here's how...

In Vista, Right-Click on My Computer, choose 'Manage'. Click 'Disk
Management'. There you can set up partitions, delete them, extend or
shrink volumes of existing ones (NTFSs only).
You'll need at least 3 partitions, one for Vista, one as a Swap, and one
for Ubuntu. But there's no need to format the Ubuntu partition
nor the swap partition, since you can easily manage the Ubuntu Install to
do that. And anyways, you're going to want to let the Ubuntu Install
format its partition as an 'Ext3' format.

- Your Ubuntu partition needs to be only 1.5 to 2 GB in size to work
- The Swap partitions needs (if memory serves, pun intended) only 256 MB
of space.
Set up your mounts as follows during the install: Your Root upon which
Ubuntu is installed gets a '/' mount - swap I think gets a "/swap" mount
and Vista gets "/windows"

After the setup, upon restarting, Vista will automatically bring up a boot
menu, giving you a choice of which OS to boot up with.
Good Luck, Frank

Follow Bright's suggestions and you'll certainly be screwed. Just let Ubuntu
handle the install and go with the default partition sizes it uses.

Love and Kisses,
Doris