how to backup users profiles?

[shawn]

2003 domain with more than 10 Vista clients. How can I centralized backup
c:\Users to server? We are using Bacula for client backup, but Bacula's Vista
client doesn't work well for c:\users (other folders are fine).

I can't ask user log off, then backup script doesn't work;
Vista's backup tool can't backup folders;
old NTBACKUP doesn't support volume shadow copy on Vista (alway skip files).

Is there any other ways?

 

[Mark L. Ferguson]

Have you considered RoboCopy?
Robocopy:
http://technet2.microsoft.com/windo...d4b3-40ec-bd2f-12d98f7802d51033.mspx?mfr=true

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[shawn]

Yes, but robocopy can't handle opened files, even backup mode, right?

 

[Malke]

2003 domain with more than 10 Vista clients. How can I centralized backup
c:\Users to server? We are using Bacula for client backup, but Bacula's
Vista client doesn't work well for c:\users (other folders are fine).

I can't ask user log off, then backup script doesn't work;
Vista's backup tool can't backup folders;
old NTBACKUP doesn't support volume shadow copy on Vista (alway skip
files).

Is there any other ways?

I'm confused - you have a domain and a central server, what is there to back
up on the workstations? Surely you don't leave data on the workstations?

Malke

 

[shawn]

Users sometime won't write all data to server, plus working on data may slow.
Since we don't like roaming profile, then Boss likes to backup profiles from
each workstations to server.

 

[Malke]

Users sometime won't write all data to server, plus working on data may
slow. Since we don't like roaming profile, then Boss likes to backup
profiles from each workstations to server.

If working on the data is slow, you should upgrade the RAM on the server and
possibly your network infrastructure. Boss should understand that keeping
data on workstations is inefficient, makes backing up harder and more prone
to errors and omissions, and increases traffic over the network.

All that said, it's your (or your Boss's) choice. For such a small network,
I would run Second Copy on the server and have it copy data off the
workstations to an external hard drive, NAS, or extra internal hard drive
on the server (least desirable choice).

Depending on the amount of data being backed up, an off-site backup solution
like Mozy might be even better for you.

Malke

 

[shawn]

Actually we have Bacula - a open source backup solution, to backup all
servers, and workstations. It just works fine for all 2003, linux servers,
and XP, and all Vista's folders, except profile folder. That's way I am
asking how to backup Vista's profile folder, since I even can't find any
valued posts from Google.

 

[Malke]

Actually we have Bacula - a open source backup solution, to backup all
servers, and workstations. It just works fine for all 2003, linux servers,
and XP, and all Vista's folders, except profile folder. That's way I am
asking how to backup Vista's profile folder, since I even can't find any
valued posts from Google.

Second Copy works with Vista. Or is your question that you don't know what
to back up? C:\Users\username\etc.

You have to create matching user accounts/passwords on the server and set up
sharing on the Vista machine, naturally. It sounds more like a permissions
problem.

Excellent, thorough, yet easy to understand article about File/Printer
Sharing in Vista. Includes details about sharing printers as well as files
and folders:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb727037.aspx

Malke

 

[shawn]

Bacula use client agent, then no permission isuue. But for Vista's profile,
it is hard to make a live backup, I got similar issue like this:
http://help.lockergnome.com/vista/Accessing-Application-Data-folder-user-ftopict1391.html
It is about Vista's profile structure, bacula client daemon can't traverse
the whole profile tree.

 

[Malke]

Bacula use client agent, then no permission isuue. But for Vista's
profile, it is hard to make a live backup, I got similar issue like this:
http://help.lockergnome.com/vista/Accessing-Application-Data-folder-user-ftopict1391.html
It is about Vista's profile structure, bacula client daemon can't traverse
the whole profile tree.

Then the issue is with the Bacula software. Contact their tech support or
use a different backup program. As I already said, Second Copy works fine
with Vista, and so does Acronis True Image (you could use their server
version). There are other backup programs which also work with Vista,
although I've only used SC and TI so I can't recommend any one way or
another. Other people may have good suggestions.

This is not a Vista issue; it is a problem with the backup software you are
using.

Malke

 

[Malke]

How about vice versa?

(snip long answer relevant to nothing current)

I have no idea how or why you resurrected this ancient thread, but you've
got my name on what you quoted although I didn't write any of that.

This is a long-dead thread. My surmise is that the reason you think it is
live is because you are posting on one of those stupid websites that just
leeches Usenet posts. Most of the rest of us (like me) use real newsreaders
and therefore don't see what you do.

If you want to participate in Usenet, the better way is to set up a
newsreader. This is very easy to do and I'll give you information about
that below. If you prefer to use a forum, then here are two excellent ones:

http://forum.aumha.org/index.php
http://http://computerhaven.info/

Since you are using a web interface, you may not realize that this is really
a newsgroup. You will get far more out of this resource if you learn to use
a newsreader. There are many good newsreaders for Windows, but you can use
Outlook Express (XP) or Windows Mail (Vista) since you already have it.
Here are some links to information about newsgroups:

About Usenet:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/ - Usenet FAQs from the Internet FAQ Archives
http://www.usenetmonster.com/infocenter/
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Usenet - a brief explanation
of newsgroups

Outlook Express/Windows Mail as Newsreader:
http://michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm
http://rickrogers.org/setupoe.htm
http://vistasupport.mvps.org/accessing_newsgrousp_with-windows_mail.htm

How to Post:
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Usenet
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375 - How to Ask a Question
http://users.tpg.com.au/bzyhjr/liszt.htm - How Not to Get Technical Help on
Usenet


http://aumha.org/nntp.htm - list of MS newsgroups
microsoft.public.test.here - MS group to test if your newsreader is working
properly
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/munad.htm - how to munge email address
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossposting - crossposting
http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm - multiposting

Other Newsreaders for Windows:
http://www.forteinc.com/main/homepage.php - Forte
http://www.mozilla.org - Thunderbird

Malke

 

[Mike]

Thats your opinion. Why it is not current? Because there is new OS
releases?
1. People are allowed to use old OS's if they want.
2. People are still studying old materials to get certications.



I am always found that annoying how people are whining about answers to
old posts. And even more annoying is that some sites lock threads..
especially when there is some disinformation included and it is accepted
final solution or someting.
You have a bit too big ego if it bothers that your name is mentioned
and someone knows better or thinks otherwise.



Dont blame me blame those sites. In this
case.http://www.vistaheads.com/forums




What makes you think that i dont know what newsgroups are? I have used
news since 1996... not too much because one thing i hate more than
locked threads is those "news polices" who do not answer questions but
refers to netiquette.
Case closed. No need to answer. I sign out of this site.

Don't let the door smack you in the ass, ass.