How many *MORE* laws did I break?

[Justin]

I bought another Dell D430 without an Operating system off eBay. I
upgraded the RAM to 2GB. But of course I needed to install Windows. So
I bought a memory panel with an XP professional COA on it for a whole
$5, put that panel on the laptop and sold it! It works perfectly.
So, how horrible a person am I for stealing from Microsoft?
Should I be purged? Should I turn myself into the Microsoft piracy
gulag?
I feel so guilty. But I think I can live with it.

 

[Shenan Stanley]

I bought another Dell D430 without an Operating system off eBay. I
upgraded the RAM to 2GB. But of course I needed to install
Windows. So I bought a memory panel with an XP professional COA on
it for a whole $5, put that panel on the laptop and sold it! It
works perfectly.
So, how horrible a person am I for stealing from Microsoft?
Should I be purged? Should I turn myself into the Microsoft piracy
gulag?
I feel so guilty. But I think I can live with it.

You bought a computer off eBay. That's as far as anyone should read.

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Hope you sold it for $5.01 kos that's what it was worth.

 

[Mark Adams]

I bought another Dell D430 without an Operating system off eBay. I
upgraded the RAM to 2GB. But of course I needed to install Windows. So
I bought a memory panel with an XP professional COA on it for a whole
$5, put that panel on the laptop and sold it! It works perfectly.
So, how horrible a person am I for stealing from Microsoft?
Should I be purged? Should I turn myself into the Microsoft piracy
gulag?
I feel so guilty. But I think I can live with it.
.

<yawn>

Hasn't Microsoft dropped this newsgroup from their servers yet?

 

[Justin]

You bought a computer off eBay. That's as far as anyone should read.

And I'm buying another one! Dell D430 - for $150 - same deal. I'll
upgrade the RAM, get another XP OEM license and sell it.
I know I should go though an authorized Microsoft reseller (LOL).

 

[MuahMan]

You break Darwin's Law every day you make it through alive.

 

[Redjac]

I bought another Dell D430 without an Operating system off eBay. I
upgraded the RAM to 2GB. But of course I needed to install Windows. So
I bought a memory panel with an XP professional COA on it for a whole
$5, put that panel on the laptop and sold it! It works perfectly.
So, how horrible a person am I for stealing from Microsoft?
Should I be purged? Should I turn myself into the Microsoft piracy
gulag?
I feel so guilty. But I think I can live with it.

shove yer dell up yer ass

 

[Justin]

Hope you sold it for $5.01 kos that's what it was worth.

I should be able to sell the whole unit for >$200 if I ship worldwide.

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Ping (e-mail address removed), I'm sure they can help you do that.

 

[Andy]

buying one is fine reselling it with a cheap copy of windows or an illegal
copy is wrong sa the buyer gets stuck with a copy of windows microsoft might
not support at all.

 

[Phil Stovell]

I bought another Dell D430 without an Operating system off eBay. I
upgraded the RAM to 2GB. But of course I needed to install Windows. So I
bought a memory panel with an XP professional COA on it for a whole $5,
put that panel on the laptop and sold it! It works perfectly. So, how
horrible a person am I for stealing from Microsoft? Should I be purged?
Should I turn myself into the Microsoft piracy gulag?
I feel so guilty. But I think I can live with it.

UK suppliers have been billed £2000 by MS for doing that, or a court
appearance. See uk.adverts.computer, the thread starting below and several
earlier threads. Some suppliers now install Ubuntu on second hand
machines, rather than risk the wrath of MS.

Message-ID: <[email protected]>

 

[Homer]

Verily I say unto thee, that Justin spake thusly:

I bought another Dell D430 without an Operating system off eBay. I
upgraded the RAM to 2GB. But of course I needed to install Windows.
So I bought a memory panel with an XP professional COA on it for a
whole $5, put that panel on the laptop and sold it! It works
perfectly. So, how horrible a person am I for stealing from
Microsoft? Should I be purged? Should I turn myself into the
Microsoft piracy gulag?
I feel so guilty. But I think I can live with it.

Read the Windows EULA.

"This software is licensed not sold"

You are not the licensor for Windows, therefore you don't have the right
to sell a Windows license.

However, IIRC there was a legal case which upheld a seller's rights to
sell used software under First Sale doctrine, seemingly undermining the
enforceability of Microsoft's (or indeed any) EULA.

Personally I'm less concerned with the fact that you possibly "violated"
some highly questionable "IP" claim, and more concerned with the fact
that you destroyed a perfectly good PC by infecting it with Windows.

 

[ZnU]

I bought another Dell D430 without an Operating system off eBay. I
upgraded the RAM to 2GB. But of course I needed to install Windows.
So I bought a memory panel with an XP professional COA on it for a
whole $5, put that panel on the laptop and sold it! It works
perfectly. So, how horrible a person am I for stealing from
Microsoft? Should I be purged? Should I turn myself into the
Microsoft piracy gulag?
I feel so guilty. But I think I can live with it.

Read the Windows EULA.

"This software is licensed not sold"

You are not the licensor for Windows, therefore you don't have the right
to sell a Windows license.

However, IIRC there was a legal case which upheld a seller's rights to
sell used software under First Sale doctrine, seemingly undermining the
enforceability of Microsoft's (or indeed any) EULA.[/QUOTE]

SoftMan v. Adobe. SoftMan was buying boxed "collections" of bundled apps
from Adobe, and then reselling them individually. Judge ruled this was
fine, on the basis that software is sold, not licensed (despite vendor
claims to the contrary), so first-sale doctrine applies.

But this decision was only at the district court level, and didn't
consider EULA enforceability, because the EULA bound on _use_ and
SoftMan never installed or used the software. In general, US court
decisions on this subject are all over the map.

 

[Clogwog]

You bought a computer off eBay. That's as far as anyone should read.

What's wrong with that?
I bought one for my son, very cheap, with an up to date Acronis image on
board, Windows XP & Linux Mint "inside" , perfectly legal, all being paid
for by the original owner! ( I bet ;-) )

 

[Shenan Stanley]

What's wrong with that?
I bought one for my son, very cheap, with an up to date Acronis
image on board, Windows XP & Linux Mint "inside" , perfectly legal,
all being paid for by the original owner! ( I bet ;-) )

And you trusted the installation as is?

Interesting.

 

[Clogwog]

And you trusted the installation as is?

Interesting.

There was no reason to be disappointed, of course I ran Acronis again after
the obvious personal modifications!

 

[Homer]

Verily I say unto thee, that ZnU spake thusly:

SoftMan v. Adobe.

That's the one.

SoftMan was buying boxed "collections" of bundled apps from Adobe,
and then reselling them individually. Judge ruled this was fine, on
the basis that software is sold, not licensed (despite vendor claims
to the contrary), so first-sale doctrine applies.

But this decision was only at the district court level, and didn't
consider EULA enforceability, because the EULA bound on _use_ and
SoftMan never installed or used the software. In general, US court
decisions on this subject are all over the map.

And most other subjects, it seems.

Personally I find the American legal system to be odd in the extreme.

Thankfully I don't need to worry if it's illegal to eat ice cream on a
Sunday in London, but perfectly legal in Glasgow.

 

[Shenan Stanley]

There was no reason to be disappointed, of course I ran Acronis
again after the obvious personal modifications!

"Disappointed" would not be what I would say - after all - who knows who has
whatever information you have placed on that machine now.

 

[VanguardLH]

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Injection-Info: mx03.eternal-september.org; posting-host="vGlm8QNL2N6PaJ/8opKplg";
logging-data="18820"; mail-complaints-to="(e-mail address removed)"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+S6Jq84oIB1LIv3PUSKU0BqzqJEkJ2vak="
Cancel-Lock: sha1:zLlcjxENbkd/SS1QeE9DgyrDuWQ=

I bought another Dell D430 without an Operating system off eBay. I
upgraded the RAM to 2GB. But of course I needed to install Windows. So
I bought a memory panel with an XP professional COA on it for a whole
$5, put that panel on the laptop and sold it! It works perfectly.
So, how horrible a person am I for stealing from Microsoft?
Should I be purged? Should I turn myself into the Microsoft piracy
gulag?
I feel so guilty. But I think I can live with it.

You are asking us to notify Microsoft so they can subpoena ES' logs or
get ES to decode their Cancel-Lock and Injection-Info headers so
Microsoft can find you and prosecute you for piracy of their OS,
especially since you claim in another post you'll be doing it again?

Well, okie dokie, we'll oblige your request. Tis easy 'nuff by visiting
http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/reporting/default.aspx.

Original newsgroups:
comp.os.linux.advocacy (*)
comp.sys.mac.advocacy (*)
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
(*) Deleted in my reply.

Oh yes, like we weren't supposed to recognize a troll wanting to flame a
Microsoft newsgroup to proselytize their personal choice of an OS.

 

[Justin]

Path: news.albasani.net!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
Injection-Info: mx03.eternal-september.org;
posting-host="vGlm8QNL2N6PaJ/8opKplg";
logging-data="18820";
mail-complaints-to="(e-mail address removed)";
posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+S6Jq84oIB1LIv3PUSKU0BqzqJEkJ2vak="
Cancel-Lock: sha1:zLlcjxENbkd/SS1QeE9DgyrDuWQ=

I bought another Dell D430 without an Operating system off eBay. I
upgraded the RAM to 2GB. But of course I needed to install Windows. So
I bought a memory panel with an XP professional COA on it for a whole
$5, put that panel on the laptop and sold it! It works perfectly.
So, how horrible a person am I for stealing from Microsoft?
Should I be purged? Should I turn myself into the Microsoft piracy
gulag?
I feel so guilty. But I think I can live with it.

You are asking us to notify Microsoft so they can subpoena ES' logs or
get ES to decode their Cancel-Lock and Injection-Info headers so
Microsoft can find you and prosecute you for piracy of their OS,
especially since you claim in another post you'll be doing it again?

Well, okie dokie, we'll oblige your request. Tis easy 'nuff by visiting
http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/reporting/default.aspx.

Original newsgroups:
comp.os.linux.advocacy (*)
comp.sys.mac.advocacy (*)
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
(*) Deleted in my reply.

Oh yes, like we weren't supposed to recognize a troll wanting to flame a
Microsoft newsgroup to proselytize their personal choice of an OS.[/QUOTE]

Yer wacky!
w00t!

Check out ebay item number 250669737461.
The trick to getting the COA off the part is to use a hair dryer. Thats
why I always buy COAs that are on metal covers.
A heat gun is too powerful; it tends to melt the plastic stickers and
discolor the paper ones.