how do I uninstall sp4 (it came preloaded)

[Greg Kelley]

According to one of the support people for one of my
applications (SolidWorks) Windows 2000 sp4 has some issues
working with Solidworks, and this isn't letting me open
some previously saved files.
He told me to uninstall win2000 sp4, and see if that fixed
my problem.

Win2K Pro SP4 came on my computer when it was purchased,
and is what is on my CD, how can I uninstall it?
Or will installing sp3 over top roll it back?

 

[David H. Lipman]

Forget about it !

Instead of them telling you to uninstall Win2K SP4, you tell them to fix the problem to work
with SP4 !

Dave



| According to one of the support people for one of my
| applications (SolidWorks) Windows 2000 sp4 has some issues
| working with Solidworks, and this isn't letting me open
| some previously saved files.
| He told me to uninstall win2000 sp4, and see if that fixed
| my problem.
|
| Win2K Pro SP4 came on my computer when it was purchased,
| and is what is on my CD, how can I uninstall it?
| Or will installing sp3 over top roll it back?
|
|

 

[Steve Nielsen]

SP4 has some very real problems and issues. You can read about some of
them here:

http://www.w2knews.com/anecdotes.htm

Steve

 

[Steve Nielsen]

SP4 should be listed in add/remove programs in control panel. I don't
believe installing SP3 over the top will give you the desired result,
you'll need to un-install SP4 then install SP3.

Steve

 

[David H. Lipman]

Anecdotal information from a non authorative site does NOT make SP4 bad.

Dave



| SP4 has some very real problems and issues. You can read about some of
| them here:
|
| http://www.w2knews.com/anecdotes.htm
|
| Steve
|
| David H. Lipman wrote:
|
| > Forget about it !
| >
| > Instead of them telling you to uninstall Win2K SP4, you tell them to fix the problem to
work
| > with SP4 !
| >
| > Dave
| >
| >
| >
| > | > | According to one of the support people for one of my
| > | applications (SolidWorks) Windows 2000 sp4 has some issues
| > | working with Solidworks, and this isn't letting me open
| > | some previously saved files.
| > | He told me to uninstall win2000 sp4, and see if that fixed
| > | my problem.
| > |
| > | Win2K Pro SP4 came on my computer when it was purchased,
| > | and is what is on my CD, how can I uninstall it?
| > | Or will installing sp3 over top roll it back?
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|

 

[Steve Nielsen]

So you're saying that peoples' *real* experiences are invalid? Did you
even bother to read any of those reports?

Just because Microsoft didn't say it doesn't mean it's not true and just
because M$ and most MVPs won't openly publicly admit it does not mean
that SP4 is perfectly fine. For that matter check out the M$ KB for the
many articles about SP4 issues and problems, very many of which the M$
solution is to use a previous SP level. Don't take my word for
(obviously you aren't, nor anyone else's), do your own research if
you're interested. If you are not interested, then why join the
discussion in the first place? You haven't offered any real possible
solutions anyway. Telling a software company to "Fix it!" will do no good.

I'm not bashing SP4 or even Microsoft, but I don't hide my head in the
sand and pretend nothing's wrong when obviously there is, I look for
*solutions*, and that is what this group is for.

Steve

 

[David H. Lipman]

No I realize that there always be a percentage who will have problems. This is an adverse
consequence of the "Chaos and Complex Systems" in a computing platform postulate.

The fact remains that 100's of thousands to millions have installed the Service Pack with no
sequalae. I have personally installed it on hundreds of platforms.

There are a myriad of reasons that predisposed the platforms to fail or have problems with
the Service Pack.

Those problems that forced the propensity to cause the reported problems with the Service
Pack are not addressed nor are they objectively dissected.

Dave



| So you're saying that peoples' *real* experiences are invalid? Did you
| even bother to read any of those reports?
|
| Just because Microsoft didn't say it doesn't mean it's not true and just
| because M$ and most MVPs won't openly publicly admit it does not mean
| that SP4 is perfectly fine. For that matter check out the M$ KB for the
| many articles about SP4 issues and problems, very many of which the M$
| solution is to use a previous SP level. Don't take my word for
| (obviously you aren't, nor anyone else's), do your own research if
| you're interested. If you are not interested, then why join the
| discussion in the first place? You haven't offered any real possible
| solutions anyway. Telling a software company to "Fix it!" will do no good.
|
| I'm not bashing SP4 or even Microsoft, but I don't hide my head in the
| sand and pretend nothing's wrong when obviously there is, I look for
| *solutions*, and that is what this group is for.
|
| Steve
|
| David H. Lipman wrote:
|
| > Anecdotal information from a non authorative site does NOT make SP4 bad.
| >
| > Dave
| >
| >
| >
| > | > | SP4 has some very real problems and issues. You can read about some of
| > | them here:
| > |
| > | http://www.w2knews.com/anecdotes.htm
| > |
| > | Steve
| > |
| > | David H. Lipman wrote:
| > |
| > | > Forget about it !
| > | >
| > | > Instead of them telling you to uninstall Win2K SP4, you tell them to fix the problem
to
| > work
| > | > with SP4 !
| > | >
| > | > Dave
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > | > | > | According to one of the support people for one of my
| > | > | applications (SolidWorks) Windows 2000 sp4 has some issues
| > | > | working with Solidworks, and this isn't letting me open
| > | > | some previously saved files.
| > | > | He told me to uninstall win2000 sp4, and see if that fixed
| > | > | my problem.
| > | > |
| > | > | Win2K Pro SP4 came on my computer when it was purchased,
| > | > | and is what is on my CD, how can I uninstall it?
| > | > | Or will installing sp3 over top roll it back?
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| >
| >
|

 

[Steve Nielsen]

I have seen too many instances of perfectly functioning hardware and OS
go south by installing SP4 to buy this same old song. You swapped the
lyrics out with some facier lingo (I'm not impressed, BTW), but it's the
same and basically says nothing.

The fact remains that in many cases (and increasing numbers BTW) SP4
itself does cause problems. Instead of vehement denial and resorting to
the "there's always a percentage" cop-out under the pressure of
evidence, I'd like to see someone actually address the problems that SP4
itself causes in these cases. Until then the only viable solution is to
not use SP4 on machines that it causes problems for, which is what I
suggested.

Steve

 

[Andy]

My sp4 works ok on my single machine. However, in an
earlier thread, you mentioned that the uninstall should be
listed in add/remove. I checked and could not find it
under any tab, including the add/remove windows
components. Any thoughts?

 

[John John]

If you have no problems with it then you don't need the uninstall
option, why would you want to remove it? There are instances where
service packs wreak havoc with some pc's and they must be removed, other
than that service packs should not be removed. As to why you don't have
a removal option in the Control Panel it could have been removed from
the uninstall registry key.

If you have the $NtServicePackUninstall$ folder and its sub folder
Spuninst (C:\WINNT\$NtServicePackUninstall$\Spuninst) then the service
pack can be removed with Spuninst.exe and the corresponding Spuninst.bat
file. Usually or quite often one would install service packs or patches
and keep the uninstall files for a few weeks, if all goes well and no
problems arise the uninstall files can be safely removed and many people
do delete the unnecessary files.

John

 

[Bruce Chambers]

Greetings --

The only way you would be able to remove SP4 would be to go
purchase a retail Win2K license, format the hard drive, and then
install the OS and the Service Pack(s) needed.

I'd strongly suggest that, since Service Pack 4 has very few
problems, you ask SolidWorks to fix _their_ product.


Bruce Chambers

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[Bruce Chambers]

Greetings --

Don't be silly. There's no way to uninstall a Service Pack that
was slipstreamed into the original installation.



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[Steve Nielsen]

Don't be rude. I'm not being silly, I have never seen an installation of
Win2K that had any SPs included, it is natural for me to presume it
would be in there.

Steve