How do I install a HD w/win98 in new system w/WinXp?

[Guest]

I have a HP System with Windows 98 that bit the dust. I purchased a new Dell
Dimension B110. I have installed the old HD into the new Dell. My quandry is
how do I use both Hard Drives, one with Win98 and one with XP in the same
system. I do not want to have to reinstall all the programs I have been using
on the new drive because many are not XP Compatable. Thanks for your imput in
advance!!!

 

[Pegasus \(MVP\)]

I have a HP System with Windows 98 that bit the dust. I purchased a new Dell
Dimension B110. I have installed the old HD into the new Dell. My quandry is
how do I use both Hard Drives, one with Win98 and one with XP in the same
system. I do not want to have to reinstall all the programs I have been using
on the new drive because many are not XP Compatable. Thanks for your imput in
advance!!!

Are you asking how to dual-boot between WinXP and
Win98, or how to access the data on the Win98 disk
while in WinXP?

 

[Guest]

I am asking how to dual boot the two drives.

 

[Guest]

Actually, if it is possible to access the programs while running in XP that
would be even better, but I am not sure this is possible.

 

[Pegasus \(MVP\)]

While WinXP is active, you cannot run programs that are
installed on your Win98 disk.

Since both OSs were installed to run off drive C:, you
must maintain this drive letter. There are two ways to
do this:
a) Connect either the Win98 disk as a primary master
or the WinXP disk. This is a simple solution but it
requires you to swap ribbon cables.
b) Install a boot manager. I recommend XOSL. It's free
and it can handle your situation with ease.

You will need to find a number of drivers when you launch
Win98 for the first time on your new machine.

Post again if you need further details.

 

[Guest]

If Win 98 is an MFG OEM installation, you're NOT going to get a Dual Boot.
You won't even be able to boot the Win 98 by itself while in a Dell Computer
because win 98 is HP software!!

 

[Guest]

You say "HP System Windows 98 that bit the dust".
What hit the dust? MB, PSU, RAM

Why do you think the HD is any good, then?

 

[Sugarslim]

Hmmm I have a solution that MIGHT work but I have to admit you're
trying to work a complicated situation. I think you are tryign to use
Windows XP as your main system while being able to access files and
programs from your Windows 98 hard drive. First make sure you only
have the Windows Xp hard drive installed in your computer. Boot up,
when in Windows go to Control Panel and then click on System. When in
System click on the Advanced Tab then on the Settings button under
Startup and Recovery. Under Startup make sure Windows XP is the
default operation system. After this turn off your system then install
the second hard drive as the Slave and then boot into your system's
BIOS. In here make sure that BOTH hard drives are being detected and
are either the Master or Slave hard drives respectively. After this
reboot into Windows. (You should get a clean but and be able to boot
into WIndows without problems but if you do just reply back to me and I
can tell you how to fix this) Now when in Windows click on My Computer
and you should be able to see both your new and old hard drives. The
tricky thing about this situation is that since that you are trying to
run programs not designed for the NT kernel Windows XP is based on and
on top of that the Windows registry for the XP hard drive doesnt
contain any of the information found in the Windows 98 hard drive. This
is why the Start Menu will not contain any links or shortcuts to the
programs installed on the Windows 98 hard drive. Because of this you
MAY be able to run a good deal of programs by manually navigating to
their location on the Windows 98 hard drive through My Computer or just
make shortcuts on your desktop to the location of the programs you want
to run. Some programs may not work because they need to be integrated
into your system registry (in your case the Windows XP one) in order to
run correctly. Another problem you may run into is the hard drive
letters of both the hard drives. If they are both C and you run into
problems, just reply to me and I can tell you how to change the letter
of the Windows 98 hard drive so that the programs can correctly be
accessed without error. I hope you get everything going just with this
but if you need anymore help just say so because I've done alot of
cross platform situations in the past and I have dealt with many of the
issues and have gotten past them. Good luck!

 

[Pegasus \(MVP\)]

Hmmm I have a solution that MIGHT work but I have to admit you're
trying to work a complicated situation. I think you are tryign to use
Windows XP as your main system while being able to access files and
programs from your Windows 98 hard drive. First make sure you only
have the Windows Xp hard drive installed in your computer. Boot up,
when in Windows go to Control Panel and then click on System. When in
System click on the Advanced Tab then on the Settings button under
Startup and Recovery. Under Startup make sure Windows XP is the
default operation system. After this turn off your system then install
the second hard drive as the Slave and then boot into your system's
BIOS. In here make sure that BOTH hard drives are being detected and
are either the Master or Slave hard drives respectively. After this
reboot into Windows. (You should get a clean but and be able to boot
into WIndows without problems but if you do just reply back to me and I
can tell you how to fix this) Now when in Windows click on My Computer
and you should be able to see both your new and old hard drives. The
tricky thing about this situation is that since that you are trying to
run programs not designed for the NT kernel Windows XP is based on and
on top of that the Windows registry for the XP hard drive doesnt
contain any of the information found in the Windows 98 hard drive. This
is why the Start Menu will not contain any links or shortcuts to the
programs installed on the Windows 98 hard drive. Because of this you
MAY be able to run a good deal of programs by manually navigating to
their location on the Windows 98 hard drive through My Computer or just
make shortcuts on your desktop to the location of the programs you want
to run. Some programs may not work because they need to be integrated
into your system registry (in your case the Windows XP one) in order to
run correctly. Another problem you may run into is the hard drive
letters of both the hard drives. If they are both C and you run into
problems, just reply to me and I can tell you how to change the letter
of the Windows 98 hard drive so that the programs can correctly be
accessed without error. I hope you get everything going just with this
but if you need anymore help just say so because I've done alot of
cross platform situations in the past and I have dealt with many of the
issues and have gotten past them. Good luck!

Your solution relies on running programs directly from the
"Program Files" folder on the Win98 disk. This works for
some applications but fails for the majority of programs
that rely on specific registry entries. These registry entries
are obviously not present in WinXP.

 

[Pegasus \(MVP\)]

A real boot loader does not care what type of Win9x installation
is present on the second disk; in fact it does not even care if it's
Windows, Linux, OS/2 or whatever. It's the very nature of
real boot loaders that they will load whatever is there.

I am also pretty sure that the OP can boot Win98 by itself on
the Dell PC, once he's provided the appropriate drivers. I have
never seen a Win9x machine that refused to boot on a different
hardware platform although some never ran properly, due to
hardware compatibility problems.

 

[Guest]

If it is a BIOS locked Win 98 install, it's not going to work in a Dell.
Is it?

 

[Pegasus \(MVP\)]

What is a BIOS locked Win98? Never seen one in my life!
How does it work? How will it prevent the OP's Win98
from running on his new PC?

 

[Guest]

I thought maybe MFG OEM locked the Win 98 installation to MB BIOS like they
do with Win XP installation.

LIke this article.
Compaq Presario PCs - Microsoft Windows XP Product Activation
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/...ocname=c00004458&product=93315&dlc=en&lang=en

Am I off base here?

 

[Pegasus \(MVP\)]

As you say, this link refers to WinXP PCs. I have never seen
a Win98 PC that was locked in this way. Have you?

 

[Guest]

never reallly worked/got involved with Win 98 that much. although I had a
computer with win 98. MS wasn't as concerned with priracy back then ?
Most recent work is with Win XP!!

Thanks!!

 

[Pegasus \(MVP\)]

never reallly worked/got involved with Win 98 that much. although I had a
computer with win 98. MS wasn't as concerned with priracy back then ?
Most recent work is with Win XP!!

Previously you wrote "If it is a BIOS locked Win 98 install, it's not
going to work in a Dell. Is it?" If your experience with Win98 is
limited, why offer advice to the OP? Rather than helping him, you
would only confuse him.

 

[Guest]

Like I said, I just thought maybe MS must have also had some
validation/piracy concerns even in the Win 98 era.

Also, you can see the OP hasn't responded to me or you in quite some time!
Mostly responses bet me and you!!

 

[Jonny]

There 2 problems to address here.
One is that you need a 3rd party boot manager.
Second is the hardware drivers installed in 98 are most likely not
compatible with the Dell machine. Avoid booting from the second drive until
you have more answers.
Go to win98.gen_discussion newsgroup for answers to the latter.

 

[Lester Stiefel]

There 2 problems to address here.
One is that you need a 3rd party boot manager.
Second is the hardware drivers installed in 98 are most likely not
compatible with the Dell machine. Avoid booting from the second drive until
you have more answers.
Go to win98.gen_discussion newsgroup for answers to the latter.

You most likely want to retain the win98se on the second
drive, which is not compatible with the newer Dell systems
like the one you've mentioned. Will run, but will not
support the hardware satisfactorily to warrant usage. You
may experience numerous freezes or other failures in 98
series as a result.

I suggest obtaining newer versions of treasured SW from
the drive in question, an incorporating that into the XP
system instead of Dual-boot.

 

[Guest]

Thank you for your help. You are right the article that was referenced was no
help at all. I have been at a funeral and was unable to reply to you. I
appreciate your help.