How can I kill IE?!?!?!!?

G

Guest

Now that I've switched to Mozilla Firefox (which I highly recommend), I want
to completely remove MIE from my system due to security issues; popups are
still sneaking through via IE.... and microsoft anti-spyware hasn't helped
either. But, when I went to uninstall IE, it only removed the links to the
software.... IE still very much exists on my computer and the popups are
still taking full advantage......

any ideas?
 
R

R. C. White

Hi, Galen.

Have a look at this KB article:
How to reinstall or repair Internet Explorer and Outlook Express in Windows
XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/318378/EN-US/

Note especially the line near the bottom that says, "By default, Internet
Explorer 6 is preinstalled in all versions of Windows XP and cannot be
removed. To provide computer manufacturers more flexibility in configuring
desktop versions of Windows XP, Microsoft has made it possible for OEMs,
administrators, and users to remove user access to Internet Explorer while
leaving the Internet Explorer code intact and fully functional to make sure
the functionality of programs and operating system functions that rely on
it."

There is another KB article:
How to Uninstall Internet Explorer 6
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/293907/EN-US/

But note that this one is for Win2K and other versions of Windows that came
with older versions of IE/OE (5.0, for example) and were upgraded to IE6.
WinXP, though, started with IE6, so there is no earlier version to revert to
in WinXP.

RC
 
C

CWatters

Galen said:
Now that I've switched to Mozilla Firefox (which I highly recommend), I want
to completely remove MIE from my system due to security issues; popups are
still sneaking through via IE.... and microsoft anti-spyware hasn't helped
either. But, when I went to uninstall IE, it only removed the links to the
software.... IE still very much exists on my computer and the popups are
still taking full advantage......

I may have it wrong but didn't MS argue it wasn't possible to seperate IE
from Windows in the EEC case?
 
C

Carey Frisch [MVP]

Internet Explorer is a core component of Windows XP and
is not designed to be removed. If you attempt to remove
it, your system will become unstable and you'll end up
possibly reinstalling Windows XP from scratch.

Also, Internet Explorer is the only browser you can use
to download updates from the Windows Update web site.

I tried Firefox for several weeks...I was not impressed with
it and it is now removed from my system.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User

Be Smart! Protect Your PC!
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.aspx

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

:

| Now that I've switched to Mozilla Firefox (which I highly recommend), I want
| to completely remove MIE from my system due to security issues; popups are
| still sneaking through via IE.... and microsoft anti-spyware hasn't helped
| either. But, when I went to uninstall IE, it only removed the links to the
| software.... IE still very much exists on my computer and the popups are
| still taking full advantage......
|
| any ideas?
 
V

Vagabond Software

Galen said:
Now that I've switched to Mozilla Firefox (which I highly recommend), I want
to completely remove MIE from my system due to security issues; popups are
still sneaking through via IE.... and microsoft anti-spyware hasn't helped
either. But, when I went to uninstall IE, it only removed the links to the
software.... IE still very much exists on my computer and the popups are
still taking full advantage......

any ideas?

Microsoft's Internet Explorer has nothing to do with the pop-ups appearing on your machine. They are appearing because of something you installed or signed up for on the Internet or because you have purchased an OEM computer pre-loaded with nefarious "shopping networks", "search assistants", and "download managers".

Download, install, and update Ad-Aware SE Personal and then run it.
http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware/

After that, visit Trend Micro Housecall and run their free virus scanner:
http://housecall.trendmicro.com/

If you can complete those steps without errors or strange aborted attempts, then you will likely be rid of your pop-ups.

Finally, Firefox is a fine browser, but don't let the hype lull you into a false sense of security. Firefox is not susceptible to ActiveX mischief, but in addition to its own vulnerabilities; it supports Java and Flash.

carl
 
D

Dan

I agree with you Galen that Mozilla Firefox is awesome. I like it much
better than IE and its tab-browsing is very useful. It does not suffer the
same vulnerabilities of IE due to its lack of ActiveX support which is a
Microsoft technology that hackers have taken advantage of to the utmost.
AFAIK, you cannot remove IE but you can mimize its use by only using it when
visiting Windows Update Site and a few other sites that support Active X. In
the meantime you need to protect yourself. I recently upgraded my D-Link
router that hackers were bypassing too much to my second defense of ZA PRO
fully updated via my 98SE system. In my XP PRO. system I use the hardware
firewall which is now a fancy $80 Link-Ssy router as well as Microsoft's
software firewall that they provide. I have done beta-testing for Microsoft
in the past and need fairly good defenses on my computer now. I use
SpywareBlaster which is excellent in stopping baddies (everything bad aka
tracking cookies, CWS, attempted hijack redirections, etc.), also the paid
version of SpySweeper by Webroot which is also very good, in addition to
Adaware, in addition to Spybot -- Search and Destroy, an addition to AntiVir
which I plan on updating to E-Trust's antivirus/firewall program and take
advantage of the special deal until 31 Jan. 2005. I also have other
defensives but you get the idea. I have a Falcon-Northwest computer that I
bought back in 99 and it had the original 98 Windows on it and I remember
spending $20 to buy the update cd. Since then, I have purchased a full
retail CD of 98SE and a full retail CD of XP PRO. I hope this helps you and
others users some and feel free to comment. Since I am not an MVP I do not
have the same restrictions and utter loyalty towards Microsoft products.
IMO, Microsoft is great and has been very helpful to me via regular mail,
e-mail and telephone support. However, as an individual I cannot limit
myself to one operating system and that is why I dual-boot with 98SE and XP
PRO. and I plan to soon look into trying to tri-boot with 98SE, XP PRO and
Linux. Also, after I have saved some money, then I may purchase the new
MINI-MAC that looks really cool, does not have the same problems regarding
spyware and viruses that Microsoft products have. All right, I have said
enough and I yield the floor to the next person. (LOL!!)

: Now that I've switched to Mozilla Firefox (which I highly recommend), I
want
: to completely remove MIE from my system due to security issues; popups are
: still sneaking through via IE.... and microsoft anti-spyware hasn't helped
: either. But, when I went to uninstall IE, it only removed the links to the
: software.... IE still very much exists on my computer and the popups are
: still taking full advantage......
:
: any ideas?
 
D

Dan

Are Java and Flash very vulnerable to hacks, Carl?

Galen said:
Now that I've switched to Mozilla Firefox (which I highly recommend), I want
to completely remove MIE from my system due to security issues; popups are
still sneaking through via IE.... and microsoft anti-spyware hasn't helped
either. But, when I went to uninstall IE, it only removed the links to the
software.... IE still very much exists on my computer and the popups are
still taking full advantage......

any ideas?

Microsoft's Internet Explorer has nothing to do with the pop-ups appearing on
your machine. They are appearing because of something you installed or
signed up for on the Internet or because you have purchased an OEM computer
pre-loaded with nefarious "shopping networks", "search assistants", and
"download managers".

Download, install, and update Ad-Aware SE Personal and then run it.
http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware/

After that, visit Trend Micro Housecall and run their free virus scanner:
http://housecall.trendmicro.com/

If you can complete those steps without errors or strange aborted attempts,
then you will likely be rid of your pop-ups.

Finally, Firefox is a fine browser, but don't let the hype lull you into a
false sense of security. Firefox is not susceptible to ActiveX mischief, but
in addition to its own vulnerabilities; it supports Java and Flash.

carl
 
G

Gerry Cornell

Galen

Is SP2 installed and up to date? Before removing Internet Explorer read
this:

How do I set Internet Explorer to block pop-ups?

Pop-up Blocker is on by default. You should only need to turn it on if
someone has turned it off.
On the Tools menu, point to Pop-up Blocker.
Click Turn on Pop-up Blocker.



~~~~~~


Hope this helps.

Gerry
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Stourport, Worcs, England
Enquire, plan and execute.
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Please tell the newsgroup how any
suggested solution worked for you.



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
V

Vagabond Software

Dan said:
Are Java and Flash very vulnerable to hacks, Carl?

Certainly! I have computers running Windows Server 2003, Windows XP Professional (x3), and Windows ME, all using Internet Explorer as the primary browser. The biggest security risk in my home network is the Sun Java Runtime Environment.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=Sun+java+vulnerabilities

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=macromedia+flash+vulnerabilities

Of course, it goes without saying that neither of these tools are ever installed on a server, to say nothing of a domain controller.

carl
 
R

RJK

With sensibly set IE security settings, a decent and correctly set up
firewall in place, and making a little effort to add web addresses that you
trust to not send malicious software, into IE's trusted sites zone, and
perhaps into the firewalls' web list, use of the hosts file, and an
autoconfiguration script, switching off the "MS Messenger service - network
alerter / messaging service or whatever it's called," and a few other common
sense odds and ends - there's nothing really wrong with IE. ...other than
it being riddled with security issues !

I mean, if visiting an "unknown" flashy web site and IE asks you if you want
to allow ActiveX controls to run in your browser window - you say "NO"
....don't you ? ...and if IE asks you if you want to allow scripting or
Java Applets to run and you have no idea what they're going to do because
the site is strange to you ...surely one would click "NO" or "DENY." ?!?!

....ps I've gone back to Norton Internet Security. I tried using Avast and
Zonealarm. ...didn't like Avast, didn't like Zonealarm because a little
bubble thingy kept flashing on and off on top of ZA's system tray red/green
"LED"-like icon in my system tray. And there seemed to be nowhere in ZA
that could give me details of all open connections, like in Norton.

IE is fine if you take the effort to use it properly, and make a little
effort to set it up properly, and make a little effort find out a little
about general internet security :)

regards, Richard
 
D

Dan

Thanks for the information, Carl. I appreciate it since I like to understand
and follow security matters in computers closely.

Dan said:
Are Java and Flash very vulnerable to hacks, Carl?

Certainly! I have computers running Windows Server 2003, Windows XP
Professional (x3), and Windows ME, all using Internet Explorer as the primary
browser. The biggest security risk in my home network is the Sun Java
Runtime Environment.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=Sun+java+vulnerabilities

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=macromedia+flash+vulnerabilities

Of course, it goes without saying that neither of these tools are ever
installed on a server, to say nothing of a domain controller.

carl
 
D

Dan

IE is not fine and needs an overhaul in my opinion. Mozilla Firefox is not a
complete cure of course but it is a start. As far as Norton goes I have sent
off a letter to Symantec because I am concerned about how their products add
to many entries to the registry and make an efficient Windows computer into a
hunk of garbage, imo.

: With sensibly set IE security settings, a decent and correctly set up
: firewall in place, and making a little effort to add web addresses that you
: trust to not send malicious software, into IE's trusted sites zone, and
: perhaps into the firewalls' web list, use of the hosts file, and an
: autoconfiguration script, switching off the "MS Messenger service - network
: alerter / messaging service or whatever it's called," and a few other
common
: sense odds and ends - there's nothing really wrong with IE. ...other than
: it being riddled with security issues !
:
: I mean, if visiting an "unknown" flashy web site and IE asks you if you
want
: to allow ActiveX controls to run in your browser window - you say "NO"
: ...don't you ? ...and if IE asks you if you want to allow scripting or
: Java Applets to run and you have no idea what they're going to do because
: the site is strange to you ...surely one would click "NO" or "DENY." ?!?!
:
: ...ps I've gone back to Norton Internet Security. I tried using Avast and
: Zonealarm. ...didn't like Avast, didn't like Zonealarm because a little
: bubble thingy kept flashing on and off on top of ZA's system tray red/green
: "LED"-like icon in my system tray. And there seemed to be nowhere in ZA
: that could give me details of all open connections, like in Norton.
:
: IE is fine if you take the effort to use it properly, and make a little
: effort to set it up properly, and make a little effort find out a little
: about general internet security :)
:
: regards, Richard
:
:
: : > Now that I've switched to Mozilla Firefox (which I highly recommend), I
: > want
: > to completely remove MIE from my system due to security issues; popups
are
: > still sneaking through via IE.... and microsoft anti-spyware hasn't
helped
: > either. But, when I went to uninstall IE, it only removed the links to
: > the
: > software.... IE still very much exists on my computer and the popups are
: > still taking full advantage......
: >
: > any ideas?
:
:
 
G

Gordon

Carey said:
Internet Explorer is a core component of Windows XP and
is not designed to be removed. If you attempt to remove
it, your system will become unstable and you'll end up
possibly reinstalling Windows XP from scratch.

Also, Internet Explorer is the only browser you can use
to download updates from the Windows Update web site.

I tried Firefox for several weeks...I was not impressed with
it and it is now removed from my system.
may I enquire what you weren't impressed with?

--
Registered Linux User no 240308
Just waiting for Broadband to complete the conversion!(2.2 weeks and
counting!)
gordonATgbpcomputingDOTcoDOTuk
to email me remove the obvious!
 
G

Gordon

Carey said:
Internet Explorer is a core component of Windows XP and
is not designed to be removed. If you attempt to remove
it, your system will become unstable and you'll end up
possibly reinstalling Windows XP from scratch.

Also, Internet Explorer is the only browser you can use
to download updates from the Windows Update web site.

I tried Firefox for several weeks...I was not impressed with
it and it is now removed from my system.

May I enquire with what were you not impressed?

--
Registered Linux User no 240308
Just waiting for Broadband to complete the conversion!(3 weeks and
counting!)
gordonATgbpcomputingDOTcoDOTuk
to email me remove the obvious!
 
G

Gerry Cornell

Gordon

Does Mozilla always send two copies of the same message? Is it's
reliability only 50%?


~~~~~~

Regards.

Gerry

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
FCA

Stourport, Worcs, England
Enquire, plan and execute.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
G

Gordon

Gerry said:
Gordon

Does Mozilla always send two copies of the same message? Is it's
reliability only 50%?

;-) no - I had a connectivity problem!
(Surely if it sends 2 messages instead of 1 that's 200% efficient, isn't
it?)


--
Registered Linux User no 240308
Just waiting for Broadband to complete the conversion!(2.2 weeks and
counting!)
gordonATgbpcomputingDOTcoDOTuk
to email me remove the obvious!
 
A

Albert Sims

I tried Firefox for several weeks...I was not impressed with
it and it is now removed from my system.

I tried Firefox also for a couple weeks, and didn't care for it either.
Too clunky and sluggish. I went back to Opera, which I've been using 98%
of the time since 2002 (other 2% is IE, for the few "IE only" sites I
stumble accross).
 
G

Guest

Honestly, this is the deal: When I open IE, it never retains my original
start page (google), and it is followed by three or four popups (regardless
of whether the popup blocker is active). When I open firefox, nothing
happens that shouldn't. Popups only open in IE..... and I am using a linksys
router with the firewall active, and have McAfee security suite installed...
including its firewall. The spyware sweeper is run daily, and I typically
forbid sites to install apps on my computer. But, it seems that MIE is still
the flaw in my internet security.

Understand that I'm not a Microsoft hater..... I like XP (great improvements
from 98) and I use alot of MS software without complaints. It's unfortunate,
though, that I don't have the option of chosing my own web browser in MS XP.
And yes, SP2 is installed. So, RJK, I'm not an idiot or ignorant or
uncaring or uninterested when it comes to the process of internet
security....... and I've reached the point where I'm fet up with MIE, and
removing it/freezing it or demanding that it be overhauled is the next step
in the ever-continueing process of security. I'm glad that your effort to
use IE properly has worked well for you..... for me it seems like it isn't
worth the effort, or the effort isn't effective enough. Kudos to Mozilla for
creating a superior browser..... and bad bad microsoft for not letting me use
it!
 
S

Sam

Apparently, _Carey Frisch [MVP]_, on 28/01/05 10:33,typed:
Internet Explorer is a core component of Windows XP and
is not designed to be removed. If you attempt to remove
it, your system will become unstable and you'll end up
possibly reinstalling Windows XP from scratch.

Also, Internet Explorer is the only browser you can use
to download updates from the Windows Update web site.

I tried Firefox for several weeks...I was not impressed with
it and it is now removed from my system.


I started using FireFox quite a while ago and haven't looked back. The
main advantages I get with it are:
1) Changing font size according to *my* wishes and not being limited to
just a few as is the case in IE
2) Pop up blocking
3) Added security (phishing attacks are very less likely in FireFox)
4) FireFox is W3C complaint, IE is not.
5) Tabbed browsing. IE clutters my desktop if I have to open multiple
sites. And since it also lets pop ups to open, that just aggravates the
problem.
6) And those nifty plugins available for firefox, they are just wonderful.
7) The FireFox community is quite helpful. Tech problems do not last
longer than a few hours.

I use IE only to update Windows XP.

YYMV,
Sam.
 
A

Alias

| Honestly, this is the deal: When I open IE, it never retains my original
| start page (google), and it is followed by three or four popups
(regardless
| of whether the popup blocker is active). When I open firefox, nothing
| happens that shouldn't. Popups only open in IE..... and I am using a
linksys
| router with the firewall active, and have McAfee security suite
installed...
| including its firewall. The spyware sweeper is run daily, and I typically
| forbid sites to install apps on my computer. But, it seems that MIE is
still
| the flaw in my internet security.
|
| Understand that I'm not a Microsoft hater..... I like XP (great
improvements
| from 98) and I use alot of MS software without complaints. It's
unfortunate,
| though, that I don't have the option of chosing my own web browser in MS
XP.
| And yes, SP2 is installed. So, RJK, I'm not an idiot or ignorant or
| uncaring or uninterested when it comes to the process of internet
| security....... and I've reached the point where I'm fet up with MIE, and
| removing it/freezing it or demanding that it be overhauled is the next
step
| in the ever-continueing process of security. I'm glad that your effort to
| use IE properly has worked well for you..... for me it seems like it isn't
| worth the effort, or the effort isn't effective enough. Kudos to Mozilla
for
| creating a superior browser..... and bad bad microsoft for not letting me
use
| it!

Um, I have XP Pro and don't have the problems you are having with IE. Why is
that? Could it possibly be (gasp!) YOU and not IE? Course, I use Spybot and
Adaware and have Spywareblaster and Spywareguard installed and it seems you
don't. You can get a virus with Firefox, btw. A friend got a JavaByte one
the other day ...
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Alias

Use the Reply to Sender feature of your news reader program to email me.
Utiliza Responder al Remitente para mandarme un mail.
|
| "RJK" wrote:
|
| > With sensibly set IE security settings, a decent and correctly set up
| > firewall in place, and making a little effort to add web addresses that
you
| > trust to not send malicious software, into IE's trusted sites zone, and
| > perhaps into the firewalls' web list, use of the hosts file, and an
| > autoconfiguration script, switching off the "MS Messenger service -
network
| > alerter / messaging service or whatever it's called," and a few other
common
| > sense odds and ends - there's nothing really wrong with IE. ...other
than
| > it being riddled with security issues !
| >
| > I mean, if visiting an "unknown" flashy web site and IE asks you if you
want
| > to allow ActiveX controls to run in your browser window - you say "NO"
| > ....don't you ? ...and if IE asks you if you want to allow scripting or
| > Java Applets to run and you have no idea what they're going to do
because
| > the site is strange to you ...surely one would click "NO" or "DENY."
?!?!
| >
| > ....ps I've gone back to Norton Internet Security. I tried using Avast
and
| > Zonealarm. ...didn't like Avast, didn't like Zonealarm because a little
| > bubble thingy kept flashing on and off on top of ZA's system tray
red/green
| > "LED"-like icon in my system tray. And there seemed to be nowhere in ZA
| > that could give me details of all open connections, like in Norton.
| >
| > IE is fine if you take the effort to use it properly, and make a little
| > effort to set it up properly, and make a little effort find out a little
| > about general internet security :)
| >
| > regards, Richard
| >
| >
| > | > > Now that I've switched to Mozilla Firefox (which I highly recommend),
I
| > > want
| > > to completely remove MIE from my system due to security issues; popups
are
| > > still sneaking through via IE.... and microsoft anti-spyware hasn't
helped
| > > either. But, when I went to uninstall IE, it only removed the links
to
| > > the
| > > software.... IE still very much exists on my computer and the popups
are
| > > still taking full advantage......
| > >
| > > any ideas?
| >
| >
| >
 

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