E
EIFS 101
I hate microsoft and I am buying an IMAC. I should have never gotten
rid of my OS X, I never had problems with it. PC's suck.
ROB-
rid of my OS X, I never had problems with it. PC's suck.
ROB-
R
R. C. White
Hi, Dan.
No problem. I'm glad for the chance to remind users (not just you; there
are always lots of lurkers here - which "is a good thing") the MVPs are here
to help, not to "sell" or "evangelize" Microsoft.
I dual-booted Win95/98 with WinNT4/2K/XP - and even a smattering of Win2K3
and the pre-alpha Longhorn. I still have a couple of instances of WinXP and
that Longhorn installed. But I've never tried Linux or a Mac system. In
the late '70s and the '80s, I started with TRS-DOS and CP/M and experimented
with others, but since the mid '80s, I've run just MS-DOS and Windows,
starting with Windows 1.0 on my Tandy 2000. It took a year to get all the
drivers and IRQ hassles worked out for Win2K, but in January 2001, I retired
Win98 and haven't had to deal with the MS-DOS mindset since then.
I used several browsers when the Internet first came to town and I could,
for the first time, access it without paying for long distance. (One
hundred hours of browsing in a month would cost me $20 for the ISP and $700
for the phone!) Netscape was my favorite browser, but it would not let me
collect my email from my several ISPs without disconnecting and redialing
each one. IE, bundled with the new Win95, could handle that, so I
gravitated away from NS after that became available. Not because IE/OE was
from Microsoft, but because it did the job I needed done. So far, I've not
felt the need to switch back, or even to experiment. But there are so many
favorable reports on Firefox, including some from several MVPs, that I might
check it out sometime soon. On the other hand, I recall the hassles of
switching between multiple browsers, including trying to synchronize
favorites/bookmarks, etc. - and then the serenity of settling on just one -
so maybe I won't bother. ;<)
RC
No problem. I'm glad for the chance to remind users (not just you; there
are always lots of lurkers here - which "is a good thing") the MVPs are here
to help, not to "sell" or "evangelize" Microsoft.
I dual-booted Win95/98 with WinNT4/2K/XP - and even a smattering of Win2K3
and the pre-alpha Longhorn. I still have a couple of instances of WinXP and
that Longhorn installed. But I've never tried Linux or a Mac system. In
the late '70s and the '80s, I started with TRS-DOS and CP/M and experimented
with others, but since the mid '80s, I've run just MS-DOS and Windows,
starting with Windows 1.0 on my Tandy 2000. It took a year to get all the
drivers and IRQ hassles worked out for Win2K, but in January 2001, I retired
Win98 and haven't had to deal with the MS-DOS mindset since then.
I used several browsers when the Internet first came to town and I could,
for the first time, access it without paying for long distance. (One
hundred hours of browsing in a month would cost me $20 for the ISP and $700
for the phone!) Netscape was my favorite browser, but it would not let me
collect my email from my several ISPs without disconnecting and redialing
each one. IE, bundled with the new Win95, could handle that, so I
gravitated away from NS after that became available. Not because IE/OE was
from Microsoft, but because it did the job I needed done. So far, I've not
felt the need to switch back, or even to experiment. But there are so many
favorable reports on Firefox, including some from several MVPs, that I might
check it out sometime soon. On the other hand, I recall the hassles of
switching between multiple browsers, including trying to synchronize
favorites/bookmarks, etc. - and then the serenity of settling on just one -
so maybe I won't bother. ;<)
RC
D
Dan
Well I suggest you give Mozilla Firefox a try and I now actually use it as my
default browser in 98SE and XP PRO. Actually, I was born in the 70's in New
York City and my first computer was an IBM PCjr that my dad owned and he
helped to teach me BASIC programming. I was born when the PC was just
starting out as a new gray box and Microsoft was a young company. (I am
having fun speaking in riddles -- :>) Anyway, King's Quest 1 was one of the
first computer game that I owned (there may have been a few other cartridge
games first but I don't remember) and I remember the game helped teach me how
to spell and analyze situations as a young child. It had a 5.25 inch true
floppy drive with only 128 KBs and yes I mean KB and not MB and an EGA
(Extended Graphics Adapter) 16-color monitor with a three sound at once built
in internal speaker. I really enjoyed that computer and thankfully I
convinced my parents to keep it and we have it in storage. It has no sound
card and no hard drive but imo it is a true classic and every once in a while
when I get back to N.Y.C. I boot the old machine up and relive my young glory
days of true youth. (Anyway, I am rambling on and must go -- Do take care
and thanks again for the correction R.C. It is greatly needed and
appreciated when I still have so much learning to do in Linux and the Windows
Registry and Programming. Actually, I plan on being an 3rd-5th grade
elementary school teacher and maybe one day do something in the world of
computers but in the meantime computers will remain my favorite hobby
especially in the area of dealing with hackers, identity theft,
spyware/malware/adware/web-redirections/etc. Perhaps I may work in the
security arena someone and now Have a great day!
: Hi, Dan.
:
: > Sorry for the mistake and I appreciate the correction, RC.
:
: No problem. I'm glad for the chance to remind users (not just you; there
: are always lots of lurkers here - which "is a good thing") the MVPs are
here
: to help, not to "sell" or "evangelize" Microsoft.
:
: I dual-booted Win95/98 with WinNT4/2K/XP - and even a smattering of Win2K3
: and the pre-alpha Longhorn. I still have a couple of instances of WinXP
and
: that Longhorn installed. But I've never tried Linux or a Mac system. In
: the late '70s and the '80s, I started with TRS-DOS and CP/M and
experimented
: with others, but since the mid '80s, I've run just MS-DOS and Windows,
: starting with Windows 1.0 on my Tandy 2000. It took a year to get all the
: drivers and IRQ hassles worked out for Win2K, but in January 2001, I
retired
: Win98 and haven't had to deal with the MS-DOS mindset since then.
:
: I used several browsers when the Internet first came to town and I could,
: for the first time, access it without paying for long distance. (One
: hundred hours of browsing in a month would cost me $20 for the ISP and $700
: for the phone!) Netscape was my favorite browser, but it would not let me
: collect my email from my several ISPs without disconnecting and redialing
: each one. IE, bundled with the new Win95, could handle that, so I
: gravitated away from NS after that became available. Not because IE/OE was
: from Microsoft, but because it did the job I needed done. So far, I've not
: felt the need to switch back, or even to experiment. But there are so many
: favorable reports on Firefox, including some from several MVPs, that I
might
: check it out sometime soon. On the other hand, I recall the hassles of
: switching between multiple browsers, including trying to synchronize
: favorites/bookmarks, etc. - and then the serenity of settling on just one -
: so maybe I won't bother. ;<)
:
: RC
: --
: R. C. White, CPA
: San Marcos, TX
: (e-mail address removed)
: Microsoft Windows MVP
:
: : > Sorry for the mistake and I appreciate the correction, RC. I for one am
: > glad
: > Microsoft has supported the products that it has and given such a long
: > lifeline to the 9x code which includes 98FE, 98SE and ME. As you may
: > know, I
: > dual-boot with 98SE and XP PRO and I am considering adding Linux to the
: > list
: > and having a tri-boot computer. I also am interested in the new mini
: > Apple
: > computer and may save up and buy one someday but I certainly do not like
: > the
: > annoying, imo, one-button mice that Apple uses. I took my observation
: > from
: > the fact that a majority of MVP's sometimes seem to be loyal to Microsoft
: > no
: > matter what. I now see this is not the case and again I appreciate the
: > MVP's
: > that help all of us here understand Microsoft products a little better.
: >
: > : > : Hi, Dan.
: > :
: > : > Since I am not an MVP I do not
: > : > have the same restrictions and utter loyalty towards Microsoft
: > products.
: > :
: > : We can't let this line pass without correction!
: > :
: > : MVPs are some of Microsoft's strongest critics. If you read these
: > : newsgroups very much, you'll see many occasions when MVPs "tell it like
: > it
: > : is", and MS and their products come in for a fair share of criticism
and
: > : blame. But MS-bashing has become so popular that the company and its
: > people
: > : and products often are the target of unjustified flames. Anybody, MVP
: > or
: > : not, who tries to restore some balance in that situation is likely to
be
: > : accused of excessive loyalty to MS. Few of us would have accepted the
: > MVP
: > : award if there were the restrictions you allege.
: > :
: > : As we keep reminding MS, MVPs don't work for Microsoft. Our prime
: > loyalty
: > : is not to Microsoft. Our loyalty is to computer users, most of whom
use
: > : Microsoft products, especially Windows.
: > :
: > : In just this single thread, you will find MVPs who are using Firefox,
so
: > : that alone belies the "utter loyalty" that you suggested. I don't use
: > : Firefox or Mozilla (yet) or Netscape (since about 1996), but I use
: > Quicken,
: > : not Microsoft Money. I have MS Digital Image, but I use Adobe
Photoshop
: > : Elements. "Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera..." (To quote the King of
: > : Siam.)
: > :
: > : I now return you to the "kill IE?" thread, in progress...
: > :
: > : RC
: > :
: > : : > : >I agree with you Galen that Mozilla Firefox is awesome. I like it
much
: > : > better than IE and its tab-browsing is very useful. It does not
: > suffer
: > : > the
: > : > same vulnerabilities of IE due to its lack of ActiveX support which
is
: > a
: > : > Microsoft technology that hackers have taken advantage of to the
: > utmost.
: > : > AFAIK, you cannot remove IE but you can mimize its use by only using
: > it
: > : > when
: > : > visiting Windows Update Site and a few other sites that support
Active
: > X.
: > : > In
: > : > the meantime you need to protect yourself. I recently upgraded my
: > D-Link
: > : > router that hackers were bypassing too much to my second defense of
ZA
: > PRO
: > : > fully updated via my 98SE system. In my XP PRO. system I use the
: > hardware
: > : > firewall which is now a fancy $80 Link-Ssy router as well as
: > Microsoft's
: > : > software firewall that they provide. I have done beta-testing for
: > : > Microsoft
: > : > in the past and need fairly good defenses on my computer now. I use
: > : > SpywareBlaster which is excellent in stopping baddies (everything bad
: > aka
: > : > tracking cookies, CWS, attempted hijack redirections, etc.), also the
: > paid
: > : > version of SpySweeper by Webroot which is also very good, in addition
: > to
: > : > Adaware, in addition to Spybot -- Search and Destroy, an addition to
: > : > AntiVir
: > : > which I plan on updating to E-Trust's antivirus/firewall program and
: > take
: > : > advantage of the special deal until 31 Jan. 2005. I also have other
: > : > defensives but you get the idea. I have a Falcon-Northwest computer
: > that
: > : > I
: > : > bought back in 99 and it had the original 98 Windows on it and I
: > remember
: > : > spending $20 to buy the update cd. Since then, I have purchased a
: > full
: > : > retail CD of 98SE and a full retail CD of XP PRO. I hope this helps
: > you
: > : > and
: > : > others users some and feel free to comment. Since I am not an MVP I
: > do
: > : > not
: > : > have the same restrictions and utter loyalty towards Microsoft
: > products.
: > : > IMO, Microsoft is great and has been very helpful to me via regular
: > mail,
: > : > e-mail and telephone support. However, as an individual I cannot
: > limit
: > : > myself to one operating system and that is why I dual-boot with 98SE
: > and
: > : > XP
: > : > PRO. and I plan to soon look into trying to tri-boot with 98SE, XP
PRO
: > and
: > : > Linux. Also, after I have saved some money, then I may purchase the
: > new
: > : > MINI-MAC that looks really cool, does not have the same problems
: > regarding
: > : > spyware and viruses that Microsoft products have. All right, I have
: > said
: > : > enough and I yield the floor to the next person. (LOL!!)
: > : >
: > : > : > : > : Now that I've switched to Mozilla Firefox (which I highly
: > recommend), I
: > : > want
: > : > : to completely remove MIE from my system due to security issues;
: > popups
: > : > are
: > : > : still sneaking through via IE.... and microsoft anti-spyware hasn't
: > : > helped
: > : > : either. But, when I went to uninstall IE, it only removed the
links
: > to
: > : > the
: > : > : software.... IE still very much exists on my computer and the
popups
: > are
: > : > : still taking full advantage......
: > : > :
: > : > : any ideas?
:
default browser in 98SE and XP PRO. Actually, I was born in the 70's in New
York City and my first computer was an IBM PCjr that my dad owned and he
helped to teach me BASIC programming. I was born when the PC was just
starting out as a new gray box and Microsoft was a young company. (I am
having fun speaking in riddles -- :>) Anyway, King's Quest 1 was one of the
first computer game that I owned (there may have been a few other cartridge
games first but I don't remember) and I remember the game helped teach me how
to spell and analyze situations as a young child. It had a 5.25 inch true
floppy drive with only 128 KBs and yes I mean KB and not MB and an EGA
(Extended Graphics Adapter) 16-color monitor with a three sound at once built
in internal speaker. I really enjoyed that computer and thankfully I
convinced my parents to keep it and we have it in storage. It has no sound
card and no hard drive but imo it is a true classic and every once in a while
when I get back to N.Y.C. I boot the old machine up and relive my young glory
days of true youth. (Anyway, I am rambling on and must go -- Do take care
and thanks again for the correction R.C. It is greatly needed and
appreciated when I still have so much learning to do in Linux and the Windows
Registry and Programming. Actually, I plan on being an 3rd-5th grade
elementary school teacher and maybe one day do something in the world of
computers but in the meantime computers will remain my favorite hobby
especially in the area of dealing with hackers, identity theft,
spyware/malware/adware/web-redirections/etc. Perhaps I may work in the
security arena someone and now Have a great day!
: Hi, Dan.
:
: > Sorry for the mistake and I appreciate the correction, RC.
:
: No problem. I'm glad for the chance to remind users (not just you; there
: are always lots of lurkers here - which "is a good thing") the MVPs are
here
: to help, not to "sell" or "evangelize" Microsoft.
:
: I dual-booted Win95/98 with WinNT4/2K/XP - and even a smattering of Win2K3
: and the pre-alpha Longhorn. I still have a couple of instances of WinXP
and
: that Longhorn installed. But I've never tried Linux or a Mac system. In
: the late '70s and the '80s, I started with TRS-DOS and CP/M and
experimented
: with others, but since the mid '80s, I've run just MS-DOS and Windows,
: starting with Windows 1.0 on my Tandy 2000. It took a year to get all the
: drivers and IRQ hassles worked out for Win2K, but in January 2001, I
retired
: Win98 and haven't had to deal with the MS-DOS mindset since then.
:
: I used several browsers when the Internet first came to town and I could,
: for the first time, access it without paying for long distance. (One
: hundred hours of browsing in a month would cost me $20 for the ISP and $700
: for the phone!) Netscape was my favorite browser, but it would not let me
: collect my email from my several ISPs without disconnecting and redialing
: each one. IE, bundled with the new Win95, could handle that, so I
: gravitated away from NS after that became available. Not because IE/OE was
: from Microsoft, but because it did the job I needed done. So far, I've not
: felt the need to switch back, or even to experiment. But there are so many
: favorable reports on Firefox, including some from several MVPs, that I
might
: check it out sometime soon. On the other hand, I recall the hassles of
: switching between multiple browsers, including trying to synchronize
: favorites/bookmarks, etc. - and then the serenity of settling on just one -
: so maybe I won't bother. ;<)
:
: RC
: --
: R. C. White, CPA
: San Marcos, TX
: (e-mail address removed)
: Microsoft Windows MVP
:
: : > Sorry for the mistake and I appreciate the correction, RC. I for one am
: > glad
: > Microsoft has supported the products that it has and given such a long
: > lifeline to the 9x code which includes 98FE, 98SE and ME. As you may
: > know, I
: > dual-boot with 98SE and XP PRO and I am considering adding Linux to the
: > list
: > and having a tri-boot computer. I also am interested in the new mini
: > Apple
: > computer and may save up and buy one someday but I certainly do not like
: > the
: > annoying, imo, one-button mice that Apple uses. I took my observation
: > from
: > the fact that a majority of MVP's sometimes seem to be loyal to Microsoft
: > no
: > matter what. I now see this is not the case and again I appreciate the
: > MVP's
: > that help all of us here understand Microsoft products a little better.
: >
: > : > : Hi, Dan.
: > :
: > : > Since I am not an MVP I do not
: > : > have the same restrictions and utter loyalty towards Microsoft
: > products.
: > :
: > : We can't let this line pass without correction!
: > :
: > : MVPs are some of Microsoft's strongest critics. If you read these
: > : newsgroups very much, you'll see many occasions when MVPs "tell it like
: > it
: > : is", and MS and their products come in for a fair share of criticism
and
: > : blame. But MS-bashing has become so popular that the company and its
: > people
: > : and products often are the target of unjustified flames. Anybody, MVP
: > or
: > : not, who tries to restore some balance in that situation is likely to
be
: > : accused of excessive loyalty to MS. Few of us would have accepted the
: > MVP
: > : award if there were the restrictions you allege.
: > :
: > : As we keep reminding MS, MVPs don't work for Microsoft. Our prime
: > loyalty
: > : is not to Microsoft. Our loyalty is to computer users, most of whom
use
: > : Microsoft products, especially Windows.
: > :
: > : In just this single thread, you will find MVPs who are using Firefox,
so
: > : that alone belies the "utter loyalty" that you suggested. I don't use
: > : Firefox or Mozilla (yet) or Netscape (since about 1996), but I use
: > Quicken,
: > : not Microsoft Money. I have MS Digital Image, but I use Adobe
Photoshop
: > : Elements. "Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera..." (To quote the King of
: > : Siam.)
: > :
: > : I now return you to the "kill IE?" thread, in progress...
: > :
: > : RC
: > :
: > : : > : >I agree with you Galen that Mozilla Firefox is awesome. I like it
much
: > : > better than IE and its tab-browsing is very useful. It does not
: > suffer
: > : > the
: > : > same vulnerabilities of IE due to its lack of ActiveX support which
is
: > a
: > : > Microsoft technology that hackers have taken advantage of to the
: > utmost.
: > : > AFAIK, you cannot remove IE but you can mimize its use by only using
: > it
: > : > when
: > : > visiting Windows Update Site and a few other sites that support
Active
: > X.
: > : > In
: > : > the meantime you need to protect yourself. I recently upgraded my
: > D-Link
: > : > router that hackers were bypassing too much to my second defense of
ZA
: > PRO
: > : > fully updated via my 98SE system. In my XP PRO. system I use the
: > hardware
: > : > firewall which is now a fancy $80 Link-Ssy router as well as
: > Microsoft's
: > : > software firewall that they provide. I have done beta-testing for
: > : > Microsoft
: > : > in the past and need fairly good defenses on my computer now. I use
: > : > SpywareBlaster which is excellent in stopping baddies (everything bad
: > aka
: > : > tracking cookies, CWS, attempted hijack redirections, etc.), also the
: > paid
: > : > version of SpySweeper by Webroot which is also very good, in addition
: > to
: > : > Adaware, in addition to Spybot -- Search and Destroy, an addition to
: > : > AntiVir
: > : > which I plan on updating to E-Trust's antivirus/firewall program and
: > take
: > : > advantage of the special deal until 31 Jan. 2005. I also have other
: > : > defensives but you get the idea. I have a Falcon-Northwest computer
: > that
: > : > I
: > : > bought back in 99 and it had the original 98 Windows on it and I
: > remember
: > : > spending $20 to buy the update cd. Since then, I have purchased a
: > full
: > : > retail CD of 98SE and a full retail CD of XP PRO. I hope this helps
: > you
: > : > and
: > : > others users some and feel free to comment. Since I am not an MVP I
: > do
: > : > not
: > : > have the same restrictions and utter loyalty towards Microsoft
: > products.
: > : > IMO, Microsoft is great and has been very helpful to me via regular
: > mail,
: > : > e-mail and telephone support. However, as an individual I cannot
: > limit
: > : > myself to one operating system and that is why I dual-boot with 98SE
: > and
: > : > XP
: > : > PRO. and I plan to soon look into trying to tri-boot with 98SE, XP
PRO
: > and
: > : > Linux. Also, after I have saved some money, then I may purchase the
: > new
: > : > MINI-MAC that looks really cool, does not have the same problems
: > regarding
: > : > spyware and viruses that Microsoft products have. All right, I have
: > said
: > : > enough and I yield the floor to the next person. (LOL!!)
: > : >
: > : > : > : > : Now that I've switched to Mozilla Firefox (which I highly
: > recommend), I
: > : > want
: > : > : to completely remove MIE from my system due to security issues;
: > popups
: > : > are
: > : > : still sneaking through via IE.... and microsoft anti-spyware hasn't
: > : > helped
: > : > : either. But, when I went to uninstall IE, it only removed the
links
: > to
: > : > the
: > : > : software.... IE still very much exists on my computer and the
popups
: > are
: > : > : still taking full advantage......
: > : > :
: > : > : any ideas?
:
S
Shenan Stanley
EIFS said:
*applaud*
You go. You do that.
Personally I just run OS X on my PC with my Windows XP.
Or Windows XP on my Mac.
But I wouldn't get an IMac if I were you, get a MiniMac.
However, if you cannot operate one, you may have trouble with the other as
well.
D
Dan
Actually I am not an Apple fan but that MiniMac looks really sweet and I
would buy it if I had the funds and wanted an Apple computer. I think Apple
may have a big seller on their hands like Apple has had with the Ipod.
: EIFS 101 wrote:
: > I hate microsoft and I am buying an IMAC. I should have never gotten
: > rid of my OS X, I never had problems with it. PC's suck.
:
: *applaud*
: You go. You do that.
:
: Personally I just run OS X on my PC with my Windows XP.
: Or Windows XP on my Mac.
:
: But I wouldn't get an IMac if I were you, get a MiniMac.
:
: However, if you cannot operate one, you may have trouble with the other as
: well.
:
: --
: <- Shenan ->
: --
: The information is provided "as is", it is suggested you research for
: yourself before you take any advice - you are the one ultimately
: responsible for your actions/problems/solutions. Know what you are
: getting into before you jump in with both feet.
:
:
would buy it if I had the funds and wanted an Apple computer. I think Apple
may have a big seller on their hands like Apple has had with the Ipod.
: EIFS 101 wrote:
: > I hate microsoft and I am buying an IMAC. I should have never gotten
: > rid of my OS X, I never had problems with it. PC's suck.
:
: *applaud*
: You go. You do that.
:
: Personally I just run OS X on my PC with my Windows XP.
: Or Windows XP on my Mac.
:
: But I wouldn't get an IMac if I were you, get a MiniMac.
:
: However, if you cannot operate one, you may have trouble with the other as
: well.
:
: --
: <- Shenan ->
: --
: The information is provided "as is", it is suggested you research for
: yourself before you take any advice - you are the one ultimately
: responsible for your actions/problems/solutions. Know what you are
: getting into before you jump in with both feet.
:
:
S
Shenan Stanley
EIFS said:
Shenan said:
I agree. I have considered the MiniMac since it's official release. The
price is nice and I could just hook it up to the other input on my monitor.
I support OS X at work and therefore do use a macintosh - but not as much as
the Windows/Linux systems by far. OS X has proven to be a decent system in
my mind.
M
Mel Weaver
Hello,
I am a programmer, since 1984. The problem is the uninstall program
will delete the reg entries create during the initial install of the
software In the 1990s, it became standard to save user's details in the
registry, such as last screen location, previous open files, color changes
and many more even passwords. The uninstall program can not determine what
was done after the install, thus leaving many meaningless entries in your
registry.
I am a programmer, since 1984. The problem is the uninstall program
will delete the reg entries create during the initial install of the
software In the 1990s, it became standard to save user's details in the
registry, such as last screen location, previous open files, color changes
and many more even passwords. The uninstall program can not determine what
was done after the install, thus leaving many meaningless entries in your
registry.
F
Fred Marshall
Kill?
You didn't say what's wrong with simply not instantiating the program. i.e.
just don't use it.
What's that got to do with your being a programmer or 1984?
Or, maybe you have a suggestion re: the Registry that overshadows your post
re: IE?
Fred
You didn't say what's wrong with simply not instantiating the program. i.e.
just don't use it.
What's that got to do with your being a programmer or 1984?
Or, maybe you have a suggestion re: the Registry that overshadows your post
re: IE?
Fred
Mel Weaver said:
G
Guest
I read somewhere on the Internet that MS Anti Spy Ware removed IE as spyware
in an early beta release.... I would assume this has been corrected, but if
not, it might be able to assist in ridding you of Internet Explorer.
in an early beta release.... I would assume this has been corrected, but if
not, it might be able to assist in ridding you of Internet Explorer.
S
Sam
Apparently, _Jupiter Jones [MVP]_, on 28/01/05 18:14,typed:
I am pleased to see that Bill Gates announced that the improved Windows
Firewall will have bidirectional access control:
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1537635,00.asp
From the above article:
"The first of the new security technologies to reach customers will be
the Security Control Center and some changes to Internet Explorer and
the Windows Firewall that are included in Service Pack 2 for Windows XP.
The firewall, formerly known as the Internet Connection Firewall, will
give users the option of allowing or preventing applications from
accessing the Internet on a case by case basis, much the way that other
personal firewalls do."
I am not sure if this convinces you, but this sure is a wise decision.
Sam.
I am pleased to see that Bill Gates announced that the improved Windows
Firewall will have bidirectional access control:
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1537635,00.asp
From the above article:
"The first of the new security technologies to reach customers will be
the Security Control Center and some changes to Internet Explorer and
the Windows Firewall that are included in Service Pack 2 for Windows XP.
The firewall, formerly known as the Internet Connection Firewall, will
give users the option of allowing or preventing applications from
accessing the Internet on a case by case basis, much the way that other
personal firewalls do."
I am not sure if this convinces you, but this sure is a wise decision.
Sam.
D
David Candy
Why is it wise? It sounds defeatist to me.,
S
Sam
Apparently, _David Candy_, on 16/02/05 12:44,typed:
er .. ahem ... because it says outgoing connections will be now
controlled as well in addition to the incoming as well. That is an
improvement. Of course, exactly how much control as user is given will
decide how versatile will the firewall be eventually. It is a start,
however.
Sam.
er .. ahem ... because it says outgoing connections will be now
controlled as well in addition to the incoming as well. That is an
improvement. Of course, exactly how much control as user is given will
decide how versatile will the firewall be eventually. It is a start,
however.
Sam.
D
David Candy
I don't see the point. You are infected? What does it matter? If you aren't infected then it doesn't matter.
S
Sam
Apparently, _David Candy_, on 16/02/05 13:11,typed:
Exactly. It is quite non-obvious. But read the rest of the thread to get
some idea. To be thorough, talk to somebody working in internet security
and system intrusion to know more details.
Sam.
Exactly. It is quite non-obvious. But read the rest of the thread to get
some idea. To be thorough, talk to somebody working in internet security
and system intrusion to know more details.
Sam.
D
David Candy
The point is idiots like you forget computers 101. The user is all important. Why do you want to impose this burden on users. Most things blocked by Zone Alarms' users (and et al) are things that should be allowed. You take the moron solution. Enjoy.
S
Sam
Apparently, _David Candy_, on 16/02/05 13:23,typed:
Yup, the solution Bill Gates agrees to. Thanks.
Sam.
Yup, the solution Bill Gates agrees to. Thanks.
Sam.
D
David Candy
So an idiot driven by money is an authoritive source?
J
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
Sam;
Read the article paying particular attention to the date.
Then read up on the Windows Firewall.
Apparently things changed from the time the article was written and the
release of SP-2.
In any event, you are using outdated information.
Read the article paying particular attention to the date.
Then read up on the Windows Firewall.
Apparently things changed from the time the article was written and the
release of SP-2.
In any event, you are using outdated information.
S
Sam
Apparently, _Jupiter Jones [MVP]_, on 16/02/05 14:07,typed:
Yeah, it seems you are right. I guess I followed a wrong link from a
page that was about RSA 2005 and never noticed the date on the linked
article.
oh well ...
Sam.
Yeah, it seems you are right. I guess I followed a wrong link from a
page that was about RSA 2005 and never noticed the date on the linked
article.
oh well ...
Sam.